How can anyone be for Illegal immigration?

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Check the past & present California budgets, the truth is there and I'm right.

What i've always admired about you out: your openmindedness.
 

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Out, you are misinformed or a liar. Which is it? While you might think CA is a totally lib state, it is not. In fact up until about end of the Clinton era when Silicon Valley became such a powerhouse, the state was about 50/50, but the emergence of northern CA and its liberal bent is what has the state, for now, seemingly liberal. For my proof, not that I need it since you don't have any proof for anything you say, lets look at the statewide elections of 1994, the year Prop 187 passed:

Governor
Pete Wilson (R) won by 15% over Kathleen Brown, strongly back by Clinton and thought to be a strong candidate before getting run over.

Senator
Dianne Feinstein (D) won by 1.6% despite going against a Republican, Mike Huffington, that had no experience and little support from the rank and file GOP. Feinstein is probably the most recognized Dem in the last 20 years in the state and she almost lost to a nobody who just spent money.

Attorney General
Dan Lungren, virtually public enemy number one of the liberal world, won by 15%!

The only other Democrat wins in fact were by Gray Davis for Lieutenant Governor and Kathleen McConnell for Controller (by less than 2%). So your concept of a state full of libs doesn't quite hold up? The fact is that CA is not a liberal state by any means, its leaning democrat now, but only by virtue of more minority participation and the fact that those suburban Republicans are leaving the state. Still there is a swath of about 10 million in Orange County and parts south all the way to the border that is reliably Republican and will never be confused with being liberal. Same for the Central Valley. I should know, I lived there in 1994 and have lived in both the south and the north and can tell you the politics is night and day, but that both sides are well represented. Its far from a liberal state, that is why tepid choices like Gray Davis, a guy most liberals don't care for, win elections. He wouldn't have won in all likelihood if Riordan had been his opponent, Simon was heavily disliked and still only lost by 8% of the vote. Contrast that with Wilson winning by 15%. Those that say its a liberal state are just like you, they draw conclusions from very little fact. They say, budget deficit and Democratic governor, must be a liberal state that is screwed by immigrants. Not very insightful thinking...
 

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