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He uses a collection of polls, even if some of that is internal Dem polling data, it doesn't really discredit it's accuracy. Atleast it isn't any less accurate than other pollsters. Not like he is just going to take what he considers the worst data possible and base his career on that.
 

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Jeb! hitting back, saying enough is enough!

My guess is you see a lot more of this if Trump's momentum is as good after the 2nd debate as it is right now.

[video=youtube;IgKWPcpwFDs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=20&v=IgKWPcpwFDs[/video]
 

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Jeb! hitting back, saying enough is enough!

My guess is you see a lot more of this if Trump's momentum is as good after the 2nd debate as it is right now.

Jeb is going nowhere in a hurry. He will be around for awhile due to the war chest and the name, BUT he will continue to poll below others and he won't win in Iowa or NH or SC. At that point he'll be written off for good. Things will start to change with NH. After NH, the true front runner will emerge come Super Tuesday. It will likely be down to a 2 person race (3 at the most and 3rd will likely be quite a distant 3rd) and they will go at it till the end. It could potentially go to the convention given how torn up the repub party is, but I wouldn't bet on it.
 

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Yeah I shorted Jeb at -175 on 5D but limits were only $100

Don't think he has no chance but definitely not near 40%.
 
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Donald Trump indicates he'll work for the American people for $1 per year salary, taking no pension as President says He says he's dedicated to Making America Great Again and could not take money for his services with our $19 Trillion debt crisis ! Thank you Mr Trump !!


 
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Ya but is there enough value in the $399,999 a year the US would save to offset having such as jackass in office? I'm going with no.
 

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Donald Trump indicates he'll work for the American people for $1 per year salary, taking no pension as President says He says he's dedicated to Making America Great Again and could not take money for his services with our $19 Trillion debt crisis ! Thank you Mr Trump !!




Don Trump is a full-bore cultural phenomenon. They appear every sixty years or so and change everything.
 

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Don Trump is a full-bore cultural phenomenon. They appear every sixty years or so and change everything.

Lol. What????!!!

because he turned his dad's billions into his own billions while he files for bankruptcy??

his crash and burn is gonna be something tough for you to handle but I'm confident you will find someone other than him to blame for it.
 

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Been there, done that...

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=993631&highlight=Nate+Silver

"His 'proprietary' models favor Dems. He had one good year in a Democrat cycle. Big deal. Next time the GOP wins he'll fall on his ass, like always."

Just another Nostradamus who believes he can predict future events.

It doesn't get any more moronic than that.

ROTFLMAO!!! I asked you to list Silver's failed predictions, plural, and you show ONE, and...it's on a sports prediction, when we're talking political predictions??? Once again, you're a moron. Plus, you lied and said Silver doesn't predict Repubs to win, EVER, and I quickly showed that there's ANOTHER subject where you don't know wtf you're talking about. Even here, he didn't have "one good year in a Democrat cycle,' asshole, I just showed 2 presidential elections plus 36 out of 37 in 2010, that's THREE years. You're not only a liar, you're a stupidly transparent liar.
 

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Spot on Ricboff!

I heard a lot of hot air over the yrs from all of Governments. Federal, Im seeing now just who it cares for or they say it is working for! Really a problem since Obama came about and I don't doubt it will or need to change until it gets TRUMPED! Our Local/State systems is where IMO voters need to start since that is where many Future Federal worker's and politicians begin and end. Your thought is absolutely correct on how people wanting but not returning are today and I think they are copying from the Powers that are wrong thinking to be it is wise to support this guy or gal who will make whatever happen for them. Trump is responding as most feel but don't speak! I see him picking up votes from the people who have now but remember how hard it was getting because of the Red Tape that Legally should apply to all but...... I'm hoping from the people who are trying hard now and are getting laughed at or hassled by the system, sees the Double-Talk. If Trump gets nomination I think everyone will see "America be GREAT again". Locally, many Senior voters don't get out and don't realize their name was used on a write-in? It all starts at home! Don't turn your head....... Look ahead!


I just saw the 'National Review', supposedly a rag for the Republican Party
publishing a hideous ad picturing Sharpton & Trump together in an effort
to claim they are friends & Trump is no Republican.

If Trump isn't treated fairly & doesn't get the nomination, the Republicans
are defeating themselves. I'll never support a candidate being pushed by
the National Review after that 'low blow'. I bet many feel the same way.
Any other nominee will either be 'Clinton Light' or won't have the 'Girth of Being'
to turn this country in the right direction like Don Trump certainly could!
 

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Lol. What????!!!

because he turned his dad's billions into his own billions while he files for bankruptcy??

his crash and burn is gonna be something tough for you to handle but I'm confident you will find someone other than him to blame for it.


His dad didn't have billions post about things you might know something about. His well to do father was a big fish in
a little pool, Brookyn. Right after college he became his father's right hand. Don Trump ventured into Manhatten &
struck gold! By the time of his father's passing Trump was a billionaire 3X over.

Compare that with the guys your types worshio like Bill Ayres, his father was much more in the loop than Trump's
father was and much wealthier. CEO of Consolidated Edison of Illinois, & politically linked how did his two sons
turn out. Full of destructive aggression while Fred Trump's favorite son chose constructive aggression or in
the vernacular hard work & it paid off.
 

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His dad didn't have billions post about things you might know something about. His well to do father was a big fish in
a little pool, Brookyn. Right after college he became his father's right hand. Don Trump ventured into Manhatten &
struck gold! By the time of his father's passing Trump was a billionaire 3X over.

Compare that with the guys your types worshio like Bill Ayres, his father was much more in the loop than Trump's
father was and much wealthier. CEO of Consolidated Edison of Illinois, & politically linked how did his two sons
turn out. Full of destructive aggression while Fred Trump's favorite son chose constructive aggression or in
the vernacular hard work & it paid off.
I wouldn't know Bill Ayers if he was sitting next to me. That's the rights wet dream.....when nobody even knows that guy. Just like Alinsky
 

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I just saw the 'National Review', supposedly a rag for the Republican Party
publishing a hideous ad picturing Sharpton & Trump together in an effort
to claim they are friends & Trump is no Republican.

If Trump isn't treated fairly & doesn't get the nomination, the Republicans
are defeating themselves. I'll never support a candidate being pushed by
the National Review after that 'low blow'. I bet many feel the same way.
Any other nominee will either be 'Clinton Light' or won't have the 'Girth of Being'
to turn this country in the right direction like Don Trump certainly could!

LMAO...."If Trump isn't Treated Fairly, I'm gonna take my bat and glove and go home!" Awwww...Isn't that PRECIOUS!

You have just displayed how TRULY fucking ignorant you are about politics. This is what's wrong with the Republican party. Whack jobs like you (and others) think you represent the MAJORITY of the party and the majority of America. You are NOT EVEN CLOSE on either end. You are lunatics posing as fear mongers who have NO FUCKING CLUE about a LOT of stuff, including elections. I just saw dumbfuck Dave from Vegas in some other post talking about "he doesn't even care about the hispanic vote." ( it was a past post not like today or anything). Yeah he doesn't care UNTIL republicans get their ASSES handed to them AGAIN.

I showed you in the very first post why the GOP is fucked. They CAN NOT and WILL NOT get ANYWHERE NEAR 64%+ of white voters on their side. Last election...The first Black Prez in history presiding over the single WORST economy since the great depression. Not his creation but nonetheless, when you are Prez you OWN IT. What did Romney pull in? 59% of whites. McCain in 2008 = 55%. Bush in 2004 = 58% in 2000 = 55%.

WHAT THE FUCK DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS? WHITE PEOPLE do NOT make up as big a voting block as they used to in America. So unless you get like 64 and probably more like 65+ Percent of white people to vote for your candidate, you are going to NEED (not want....NEEEEEED) more votes from non-white people. Hispanics happen to be the largest growing block of voters in the U.S. So what does the Republican party want to do? DEPORT THEM. ALL OF THEM. Illegal Grandma and the rest of her legal family too! Sure that'll win you guys the election....

I will give you this much...Trump has a MUCH better chance of winning the nomination that someone like Cruz or Huckabee. You can see Trump is already swaying back towards the middle and a populist message when he talks about taxing hedge fund managers and rich bastards. It's fine to say he wants to build a wall. The MOMENT he started saying he wanted to hunt down and deport all the illegal mexicans and their families (regardless of legal status), he LOST this election.

Whine all you want...Talk all you want...Call me an asshole and so on....REPUBLICANS WILL NEVER get that high of a percentage of white voters that they can tell all the other races to go fuck themselves. This is NOT your Father's Electorate. As soon as your party grows up and starts acting like fucking morons, the sooner they will improve their chances of winning. Simple form of mathematics.
 

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LMAO...."If Trump isn't Treated Fairly, I'm gonna take my bat and glove and go home!" Awwww...Isn't that PRECIOUS!

You have just displayed how TRULY fucking ignorant you are about politics. This is what's wrong with the Republican party. Whack jobs like you (and others) think you represent the MAJORITY of the party and the majority of America. You are NOT EVEN CLOSE on either end. You are lunatics posing as fear mongers who have NO FUCKING CLUE about a LOT of stuff, including elections. I just saw dumbfuck Dave from Vegas in some other post talking about "he doesn't even care about the hispanic vote." ( it was a past post not like today or anything). Yeah he doesn't care UNTIL republicans get their ASSES handed to them AGAIN.

I showed you in the very first post why the GOP is fucked. They CAN NOT and WILL NOT get ANYWHERE NEAR 64%+ of white voters on their side. Last election...The first Black Prez in history presiding over the single WORST economy since the great depression. Not his creation but nonetheless, when you are Prez you OWN IT. What did Romney pull in? 59% of whites. McCain in 2008 = 55%. Bush in 2004 = 58% in 2000 = 55%.

WHAT THE FUCK DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS? WHITE PEOPLE do NOT make up as big a voting block as they used to in America. So unless you get like 64 and probably more like 65+ Percent of white people to vote for your candidate, you are going to NEED (not want....NEEEEEED) more votes from non-white people. Hispanics happen to be the largest growing block of voters in the U.S. So what does the Republican party want to do? DEPORT THEM. ALL OF THEM. Illegal Grandma and the rest of her legal family too! Sure that'll win you guys the election....

I will give you this much...Trump has a MUCH better chance of winning the nomination that someone like Cruz or Huckabee. You can see Trump is already swaying back towards the middle and a populist message when he talks about taxing hedge fund managers and rich bastards. It's fine to say he wants to build a wall. The MOMENT he started saying he wanted to hunt down and deport all the illegal mexicans and their families (regardless of legal status), he LOST this election.

Whine all you want...Talk all you want...Call me an asshole and so on....REPUBLICANS WILL NEVER get that high of a percentage of white voters that they can tell all the other races to go fuck themselves. This is NOT your Father's Electorate. As soon as your party grows up and starts acting like fucking morons, the sooner they will improve their chances of winning. Simple form of mathematics.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...graphics_and_the_2016_election_scenarios.html

Calm down, as nicely as I can put it without forging a point of view like your hysterical women approach, Trump will get
the white turnout to 65%, many evangelicals couldn't support a mormon & many whites as myself who
couldn't pull the lever for Rhino's like McCain will come out in droves for Trump with the belief that he's
not just giving lip service to their hopes, he's an accomplished enough person to actually produce.

Obama got 95.5% of the black vote in 2012 a 15.5 million vote plurality. 67% Black turn out, you couldn't
possibly think Mrs. Clinton can replicate that. If she's lucky with a much smaller black turnout she'll
be lucky to get a 10 million plurality, I think even less!

As far as latino's. Gyys like Guiterrez from Illlinois & Ramos from Univision & groups like La Raza can
rant & rave all they want about the venomous Don Trump but the Hispanic masses are a different
sort. Remember the last poll taken in Nevada:

The results show that GOP Presidential candidate Donald Trump has a commanding lead of 27.7%,
with recently announced Presidential Candidate Scott Walker in second with 15%. In third is Ben Carson
with 7.8% with Jeb Bush a point behind at 6.8%. Marco Rubio rounds out the top five with 5.4%.
Undecided voters remain high at just over 20%.
. With polled Hispanics, Presidential Candidate Trump received 31.4%, higher than his overall
performance of 27.7%. The only other Presidential Candidate to receive double digit support
by Hispanics is Scott Walker with 11.4%.

Now that was taken in July, but after looking at that one can assume that Don Trump would
get as many or more Hispanic votes than any other Republican! If the Republicans don't
exceed the 27% Romney got, it won't be because Trump is the nominee. Romney lost the Hispanic vote by
6 million not something Trump can't overcome!
 

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Trump's main "trump card" if he were to get the nomination is that he would get tons of people who don't follow politics and probably never bother voting to pull the lever for him.

He would likely have advantages that other candidates don't have in terms of getting the vote out. If he doesn't implode first.
Regardless of what you think of him.
 

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Ya but is there enough value in the $399,999 a year the US would save to offset having such as jackass in office? I'm going with no.

I'm going with Yes and hoping he will eliminate Public Unions if he moves into the oval office. I see Trump being a longshot but think others had their chance to make America Great already and have put the value where is now? Who cares none of them go a day without their per-diem! No receipts required, just continue to give them your money? I'll never understand and don't care to! I'll follow my heart not the money.......
 

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I wouldn't know Bill Ayers if he was sitting next to me. That's the rights wet dream.....when nobody even knows that guy. Just like Alinsky

That's a 'losers' comeback to my comment made to straightened you out on some facts! Kinda like something
Bush would come back with after being knocked down a few times by Don Trump before becoming completely
flattened!
 

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That's a 'losers' comeback to my comment made to straightened you out on some facts! Kinda like something
Bush would come back with after being knocked down a few times by Don Trump before becoming completely
flattened!
That’s a cave dweller comeback.
 

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That's a 'losers' comeback to my comment made to straightened you out on some facts! Kinda like something
Bush would come back with after being knocked down a few times by Don Trump before becoming completely
flattened!

You brought up Bill Ayers.....very stupid of you.

You can can protect your trust fund baby Trump all you want.....just a matter of time before crash and burn. You got your blaming the media excuse all ready to go?

last thing you want is Dave007 backing you.....guy has been wrong for a lifetime.
 
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You brought up Bill Ayers.....very stupid of you.

You can can protect your trust fund baby Trump all you want.....just a matter of time before crash and burn. You got your blaming the media excuse all ready to go?

last thing you want is Dave007 backing you.....guy has been wrong for a lifetime.

When Trump finally shits the bed I hope you're around to hide the razor blades and the shoelaces from Neverbend.
 

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