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so you think because an ump's horrible call that almost went the Card's way in game one was overturned by the crew, the Red Sox deserve to lose game three on a horrible rule

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Why is it a horrible rule?
 

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Why is it a horrible rule?

if a player is lying on the ground after trying to field a ball, it should not be obstruction

if the ball is in front of him while he's lying there, no call. Once the ball goes by him lying there in the very same spot it becomes a violation. That's how the rule is written, and I think that's kinda silly. What is he supposed to do? "beam me up Scotty" :)

Craig didn't think he was obstructed, like everyone else he had know idea a call was made. When running the bases and being the victim of obstruction, you know it. You start screaming and pointing
 

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if a player is lying on the ground after trying to field a ball, it should not be obstruction

if the ball is in front of him while he's lying there, no call. Once the ball goes by him lying there in the very same spot it becomes a violation. That's how the rule is written, and I think that's kinda silly. What is he supposed to do? "beam me up Scotty" :)

Craig didn't think he was obstructed, like everyone else he had know idea a call was made. When running the bases and being the victim of obstruction, you know it. You start screaming and pointing

He tried tripping him twice by lifting his legs in the air, second time he was successful. Why didn't Middlebrook keep his feet on the ground? All sports have rules against tripping.
 

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my only issue with the call is that Middlebrooks was inside the 3b bag, not in the basebath from 3b to home.
 

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if a player is lying on the ground after trying to field a ball, it should not be obstruction

if the ball is in front of him while he's lying there, no call. Once the ball goes by him lying there in the very same spot it becomes a violation. That's how the rule is written, and I think that's kinda silly. What is he supposed to do? "beam me up Scotty" :)

Craig didn't think he was obstructed, like everyone else he had know idea a call was made. When running the bases and being the victim of obstruction, you know it. You start screaming and pointing

Lets just say there was no rule for unintentionally being in the base path. The fact is he was tripped by legs flailing about in the air. There was no reason for his legs to be in the air.
 

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my only issue with the call is that Middlebrooks was inside the 3b bag, not in the basebath from 3b to home.
The base path is 6 feet, 3 feet in fair, and 3 feet foul territory in this case. Even then a runner can run as far out as he wants as long as he isn't trying to avoid a tag or interfere with the fielder.
 

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I dont like the way the game ended.. just doesnt sit well to award a team a win on a technicality.
 

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I guess defensive holding in a football game on the last play of the game is a technicality:):).

And how often do you see that called at the end of a game? How many times do you see a touch foul called in a basketball game? Or pass interference? The game should be decided by the players
 

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He tried tripping him twice by lifting his legs in the air, second time he was successful. Why didn't Middlebrook keep his feet on the ground? All sports have rules against tripping.

Lets just say there was no rule for unintentionally being in the base path. The fact is he was tripped by legs flailing about in the air. There was no reason for his legs to be in the air.

my only issue with the call is that Middlebrooks was inside the 3b bag, not in the basebath from 3b to home.

I haven't heard or read where any umpire said the call was made because the defensive player tried to trip the runner, but I have seen and read where everyone justifies the call by citing the rule as I cited it. You guys are making up your own call

Nick, great observation, he wasn't in the base path between third and home, he was between 2nd and 3rd. The runner was already safe at 3rd when he stepped over Middlebrooks. That makes it an even worse call
 

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And how often do you see that called at the end of a game? How many times do you see a touch foul called in a basketball game? Or pass interference? The game should be decided by the players
It was decided by the players, when you try a WWF move and trip a player it will get called. It was an easy call. Only real controversy this series was that green substance crap in Jon Lester's glove when he was pitching.
 

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I'm thinking only Cards fans and backers thought it was a great call and a justifiable way to end the game, even going so far as to make up their own rulings like the defensive player "intentionally" tripped the runner

I'm sorry, but in that spot the 1st thing the defensive player is trying to do is stand up and trying to become part of the play if need be. Intentional tripping has only been used in this forum.

but the sad part is that even if the defensive player lays there flat on his stomach, it's obstruction. That's just weird
 

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I haven't heard or read where any umpire said the call was made because the defensive player tried to trip the runner, but I have seen and read where everyone justifies the call by citing the rule as I cited it. You guys are making up your own call

Nick, great observation, he wasn't in the base path between third and home, he was between 2nd and 3rd. The runner was already safe at 3rd when he stepped over Middlebrooks. That makes it an even worse call

You really have no clue, do you. He was clearly in the base path. Just crybaby Bostonians.
 

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You really have no clue, do you. He was clearly in the base path. Just crybaby Bostonians.

dude, tell me about the intentional tripping again.

talk about having no clue, damn
 

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maybe it's a baseball rule they'll modify after that fiasco

right, wrong or indifferent, just a horrible way to end the game. What real baseball fan doesn't have a bad taste in their mouth?

im a baseball fan thru and thru and that ending is tough to take. I was hoping there was some obscure rule that would make it that Craig had to go back to 3rd with 2 outs.
 

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He tried tripping him twice by lifting his legs in the air, second time he was successful. Why didn't Middlebrook keep his feet on the ground? All sports have rules against tripping.

Just like middlebrooks said after the game he was trying to get out of his way. It was a bang bang play and he didn't have time to do much. If you notice only the lower part of his body, actually lower legs was in/near the baseline so he was clearly trying to get his legs out of the way for the base runner. When has a baseball player tried to trip another player? Craig try's to go over him but his left leg trips over middlebrooks ass. Unfortunately it's obstruction and the correct call IMO. But in reality middlebrooks is making an effort to get out of the baseline.
 

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