Better, and more cost effective. Yes Please. http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2014/jun/mirror-mirror
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadia...zations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
I could post a thousand links to make my point but i will take my personal experience from friends who live in Canada or the UK. The quality of care is of a lower standard than the USA.
Why would Canadians and Europeans who can afford it travel to the US for healthcare if everything is rosy over/up there?
Every country has a lot to learn.
Why would Canadians and Europeans who can afford it travel to the US for healthcare if everything is rosy over/up there?
Every country has a lot to learn.
She's not working for the Federal Government. I have the lower end "basic" BCBS Federal Employee Program. It costs me around $64/per pay period. The higher end is over $100. There are a few differences, but the deductables and co-pays are different. I'm pretty healthy, so I went w/ the cheaper plan. If I carried family/wife it would more than double. After coming off of active duty, where it was free, it's a kick in the balls having to pay for it. But it's a necessity. I'm curious to see how OC works out for others. I've heard some success stories (mostly from friends of mine who were self employed) and I've heard stories of higher premiums and monthly payments. Someone has to pay for it I guess....
I'm sorry but every objective health care site that rates Health care in 1st world Countries, consistently has the US at or near the bottom of any such list. Sure there will be some individuals who have different experiences, but they are the anomoly, not the norm. ObamaCare was a very half assed attempt to fix it, and it has overall probably been a narrow net positive, in that alot more people are covered, but there's no excuse why everyone isn't covered, like they are in most of the civilized world.
I'm in the same boat as nfltrend. My Co pays all doubled, my premiums doubled, my deductible is huge,and my coverage was cut in half. Seems like the irresponsible people got the breaks while the responsible people got left holding the bag. I'm still hopeful that prices will go back down in a few years once it all gets rolling. Right now it's pretty fucked up.
ObamaCare works for me. I'm self employed and a personal plan with Aetna for about 9 years now. The premium increased substantially every year to the point it was going to be $550 /month now as a single 38 year old male. Decided to check out the market place and found multiple options much much better. The one I chose was through United and cost around $220 month for about an equal coverage.
Just wish I wasn't lazy and switched last year.
Just wish I wasn't lazy and switched last year.
Well, considering Canadians both flock to America and accept year long waits for very basic, non-complicated medical procedures in their own country, no, no we don't. Added to the fact that in Great Britain old people die in hospitals as a matter of standard practice.
As to your preposterous claim that "it's better than it was" you can go Here and here and here and here and here to see the dozens of examples of how things in healthcare are getting worse.
But I'm sure all those people who are paying higher premiums, losing their health insurance coverage and can't see the doctors they have been seeing for years just aren't as informed on this topic as you.
there are winners and losers, with a lot more losers
how can it possibly be anything else? seriously?
the winners tend to be lower income and / or have pre-existing conditions. The losers are everybody else including those who had good coverage
and of course, there are a few EXCEPTIONS to every rule. Need to say that because some people think pointing out 1 exception proves my whole argument wrong
I also want to emphasize that rates are based on income, and not net worth
Our healthcare system is now a political pawn, so to be treated by politicians just like our tax code. Politicians get to make empty promises and lie and distort to buy votes. Some people are happy with that, I'm disgusted by it. I think politicians are among the most worthless and least productive members of society. They couldn't run a fucking lemonade stand, but they're so damn stupid they think they can micromanage the world. What's incredible is how so many people actually believe what politicians tell them, simply mind boggling to me.
PS: I'm not a healthcare expert, but I interact with scores of people impacted by the ACA, and I've seen the winners and losers first hand. I also interact with a lot of professionals impacted by the ACA, in several different ways, and I use their experiences and expertise in arriving at a somewhat informed opinion. I personally have to deal with the tax side of the ACA, and it's nothing more than a bad joke, kinda surreal to think that educated adults thought this stuff up AND thought it was a good idea.
how can it possibly be anything else? seriously?
the winners tend to be lower income and / or have pre-existing conditions. The losers are everybody else including those who had good coverage
and of course, there are a few EXCEPTIONS to every rule. Need to say that because some people think pointing out 1 exception proves my whole argument wrong
I also want to emphasize that rates are based on income, and not net worth
Our healthcare system is now a political pawn, so to be treated by politicians just like our tax code. Politicians get to make empty promises and lie and distort to buy votes. Some people are happy with that, I'm disgusted by it. I think politicians are among the most worthless and least productive members of society. They couldn't run a fucking lemonade stand, but they're so damn stupid they think they can micromanage the world. What's incredible is how so many people actually believe what politicians tell them, simply mind boggling to me.
PS: I'm not a healthcare expert, but I interact with scores of people impacted by the ACA, and I've seen the winners and losers first hand. I also interact with a lot of professionals impacted by the ACA, in several different ways, and I use their experiences and expertise in arriving at a somewhat informed opinion. I personally have to deal with the tax side of the ACA, and it's nothing more than a bad joke, kinda surreal to think that educated adults thought this stuff up AND thought it was a good idea.
Thanks Willie. Awesome post. LIke I said, I pay through the roof with Aetna HMO. I'm switching to ObamaCare. Looked into it last night and my monthly premium would be cut by almost 60% for the same coverage. I'm self employed man and the only earner for my wife and kids. this one's gonna make sense for me.
Yeah, let's be just like Canada
A 68-year-old patient has spent three weeks so far at Royal Columbian Hospital recovering from major surgery in a hallway – one of dozens of patients stacked in the halls at that hospital alone.
Gerrit Zwiep is trying to remain in good spirits as his foot heals with three pins to stabilize his fractured bones, but says it’s hard because he’s underneath a nurse’s call bell and right next to a construction site for a new shower.
“They move the beds through the hallways and it’s insanity. They’re fixing the shower. They’re banging away,” he told CTV News, adding that he can’t sleep and is worried that his wound will become more infected if exposed to the bustle of the hallways.
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The hospital confirmed there are 28 patients in hallways right now, with 42 beds in alternate locations including hallways. That’s down from 75 last year.
