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Wow, the West just took a massive turn and got HANDED to San Jose. Las Vegas now enters a tough stretch of games without their QB. Could get really ugly in the West now without Dolezel or Bonner... and Los Angeles now might have a chance to sneak into the playoffs... scary with how bad that team is... but now they've got the 2nd best team in the division. Nashville is looking better and better for a playoff spot...

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Hey Guru, do you like any of the futures for the AFL champion at Pinny? I see San Jose low at +328 but your longshot Kats are +8339..
 

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Trust me, Nashville's not going to win the championship. The teams with a realistic shot at winning it all are Chicago, Colorado, New York, Tampa, Orlando, and San Jose. I don't think anyone else can do it, despite the fact that Danny White picks Philadelphia. Arizona isn't even going to make the playoffs if they miss Bonner for much longer, and they were a trendy pick at the beginning of the year. I don't like betting on the championship this early in the year unless I think there's a nut way to hedge it later (for example, USC to win the national championship in '05).

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i love the passion for the storm and preds on the parts of tampaluke and aflguru. its a great rivalry and thats what sports are great for. as a lifelong chargers fan we HATE the raiders with a passion. when we sucked as bad as the raiders do now we didnt care if we went 2-14 as long as we beat oakland twice. now its not fair to pummell them so they mean little to us now. but this going back and forth between you 2 is awesome. it gives afl more credibility and we all want that as true arena fans.i cant join in my team is in afl2 and the avengers suck so i can only enjoy this. love the passion.:finger: lol.
 

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Hey Roxy--

Keep your head up about the Avengers... they're only one of two teams in the West that actually has their starting quarterback still in one piece... This type of banter between Predator fan and Storm queer... er... fan... is pretty typical amongst most of the die hard, long time followers of their respective team. I'm a member of the Predators fan club... have been since '98. I've had season tickets since '94. Taken the trip to Tampa 5 times, including that 62-31 thumping we handed the Storm, in the sweetest game in Predators history. I'm pretty hard core about my Preds, and it seems as though TampaLuke has been following his Storm for several years.

All that being said, I'd like to mention that this really isn't a "homer" bet. I wouldn't drop 5 units on a "homer" bet. Orlando's not cover 16 games this year... but neither is Tampa... Orlando's 1-0-1 ATS, Tampa is comfortably 2-0. I really honestly believe that my love for the Preds has taught me more about them than any other sports teams, including some of the pick up teams I played for in various sports in high school. Though I don't live in Orlando anymore, I still get a newsletter from the team every morning, thus are completely up to date with the game plan for the week and how practice has been going. The whole city of Orlando is hyped up for this game, and I don't think that their hype for this game will go unrewarded. In case you all haven't been in either the Snake Pit in Arizona, the old Barn in Iowa, the old Pepsi Center in Albany, the Graveyard in New Orleans, or the Jungle in Orlando, it gets REALLY loud in these places, especially for really big games. The only other game Orlando is going to get this hyped for this year (including the playoffs unless it's the semifinals or against Tampa) is the San Jose game, and that's mostly because it's the first time Barry Wagner has been back to play in Orlando since he was released 4 seasons ago. Preds fans all still have a place in their heart for #82 (and he'll be 82 in our hearts forever... none of the "2" stuff he's wearing now) and can't wait for his return. It's the one game that the Preds won't mind losing if Barry Wagner does us in. Guarantee that he gets the biggest ovation of any player, home or away, all season. Just thinking about that day and where I was when I heard that Barry Wagner was released brings back some real bad memories. We miss him very badly. Very very badly. And it's got nothing to do with how he plays anymore, because the game is just about past him. It's all about leadership and the fact that he was one of the only icons in Orlando, especially after Shaq and Penny skipped town.

Enough about the Preds. Time for bed. Test tomorrow morning and no studying done yet... Shows my priorities. Be back tomorrow.

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Hedging my bet

Guys, I got Orlando at (pk) +100 now TB is paying +140 ML
I can stay with my pick or I can Play the other side and break even at worst and make .4 a unit at best.

Any thoughts?

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Stickie--

First off, nice job being on the ball about getting Orlando in at a pick 'em with some good odds. If you feel that hedging is appropriate, may I suggest taking Tampa +3 at +108. I believe this to be a close game, and this way you know you are getting the critical number of 3, and the more critical number of 1. In the AFL, should a game go to OT, more often than not, the final score is 1 point either direction. That being said, if Orlando wins by 3, you're simply winning your initial bet, otherwise, you're at worst looking at a 4% profit margin. I don't intend on hedging or middling this wager, but for those of you that would rather take the immediate money, my suggestion would be to take the 3 points and hope for a middle number instead of taking the sure profit on the moneyline.

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have you looked at sundays games yet? i doubt im going to get in on fridays action but sunday is a go. i'll be up in the L.A. area friday/sat so i wont have a chance to do fridays games. hey out of curiosity what does a season ticket package run for the predators?
 

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Only one play so far for Sunday, and that's over in the San Jose game. Ace has under in the game, but he's got under 106, while I've got over 99, neither number in which you can get anymore.

Preds' season tickets are as cheap as $49. Real good seats run at about $550. Bonus Playoff tickets for all season ticket holders as well.

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Alright, I need to post my apologies about some stats in the Tampa-Orlando rivalry that I decided to look up today...

Orlando is 9-8 all time at home against Tampa, while Tampa is 10-8 at home against Orlando. This includes the postseason meetings, which Orlando holds a 4-3 edge in, including knocking Tampa out 3 straight years between '98 and '01. The game that Orlando got lucked out of WASN'T last year's home game, it was the '03 playoff game that Kaleo got lucky in... damn refs... They cost us that game. I remember it well. Travis McGriff TD overturned on what I believe was 3rd and long. 9 long point swing, Tampa wins by 10. It was Fran Papasedero's last game before dying about a week later, the day before the Arena Bowl, which Tampa beat Arizona in.

Tampa's won 4 straight regular season games in the series, but 5 overall including the playoffs. However, in '04, Joe Hamilton played his first game at QB in the AFL against Tampa, in a game Orlando had no chance in. The 2nd time around, Orlando came back from down 21 going into the 4th with a shot to win and couldn't pull out a late TD and lost by 5. In one of the '03 games, the Preds had to use backup Connell Maynor due to a Jay Gruden ankle injury that would eventually end his QB career... again.

Listen to some of these finals in the series...

'04: Tampa 63 - Orlando 58
'03: Orlando 34 - Tampa 24
'95: Orlando 40 - Tampa 39
'94: Tampa 40 - Orlando 39
'93: Tampa 55 - Orlando 52
'93: Orlando 46 - Tampa 45
'92: Orlando 24 - Tampa 21 (that's right, 45 points in an AFL game... and it took OT to get that last 3 points)

Tampa has scored 29 more points than Orlando in this series of 35 games, the longest such rivalry in AFL history.

Now, back to the game itself... these are mere trends that ultimately say squat when the game begins. Coach Gruden is out to make this an ugly game. Expect Orlando to run the ball more than usual, especially once they reach about the 5 yard line. Expect more short curls and slants to Fleming, with that occassional deep ball to McGriff or Skaggs. Brian Gowins actually got to kick inside yesterday, and he looks good according to reports. Gruden says the keys to the game are to keep the Tampa offense off the field, get a great pass rush on Stafford, and most importantly, to hang onto the football... I know, pretty obvious... I'm just reading it off of the fan club report. Gruden says he's got some tricks up his sleeve as well, which usually means bad things for Orlando... Trick plays just haven't worked well in Orlando history. Poor Barry Wagner threw 3 passes as an Orlando Predator. 0 for 3, 3 picks. Expect to see EJ Burt or some other linemen on screens to keep the linemen for Tampa honest, and then watch for Hamilton to go off and running on his own. Gruden expects from Tampa a shoot 'em out offense to take advantage of their speed with Freddie Solomon and Clif Dell, while also trying their best to get a consistent pass rush on Hamilton, which will be countered by the running game, the screens, and Hamilton on bootlegs.

As for what I expect? I think Gruden's full of crap when he says he's gonna slow the game down. Willing to say that the first half of this game will get to at least 50. Hamilton's gonna take a few deep shots down the field early in the game to keep Tampa from jumping the slants and curls, and maybe THEN, go back to it in the 2nd half. I do believe we'll see more of the running attack from the Preds, and I think you're also going to see Tampa make the effort at running the ball. The problem they run into though, is that no one successfully runs on Orlando. Cory Fleming crushes the run with his speed to the outside. He's a hard guy to block at 6'3" not a shade under 230 (I don't care what he's listed at, I've met the guy... he's huge). The mack linebacker for the Preds is usually Moyer-Moore or "Doghead" Grant. The great thing about Doghead is that he was an actual linebacker in high school. He knows how to the play the position probably better than anyone in the league. He's quick and agile, and will cause a lot of problems if Tampa tries blocking him with a lineman. The matchup to watch on the line is #1 for Tampa (Kinney) vs. #93 for Orlando (Burt... don't hold me to that number... I think it's right though). If Burt wins that battle, Orlando is going to win this game.

As for Joe Hamilton, he's just got to learn to not leave the ball on the ground before taking his 5 step drop (happened twice against Arizona and once against Colorado), and reading the jack linebacker. Gruden says that he's personally worked with Hamilton on it all week and we shouldn't see this problem prop up very often.

Alright boys and girls, there's the news of the day on the big game. Gameday report tomorrow.

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Note: There will be one more play on tomorrow night's action. However, the line keeps swaying the direction I want it to, so I'll hold off on the post until tomorrow afternoon.
 

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I've got the Orlando play for tomorrow and two other leans, of which I'll make the call on tomorrow. I don't want to list leans on the board because I did that with my team over/unders and by the time I pulled the trigger on the bet, my odds were much worse than when I posted because people played them. Check back tomorrow afternoon.

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Guru,

Would Orl still be a play at -4? Also I see NO/SJ 104. Do you think that is still too high?

I am looking at Georgia -4 on Saturday. I think without Bonner, Georgia can win this game.

I was thinking a teaser of Georgia + San Jose perhaps.

Any thoughts?.....

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I'm not going to recommend Orlando giving 4. The plays in the game would either be moneyline, or if you feel living a bit more on the edge, perhaps taking Orlando -2.5 if your book gives you the option to buy points. Regarding the San Jose/New Orleans game, 104 is a real iffy number. I'd say about 102, maybe 102.5 are the cutoffs, especially since Ace is against me (but at 106).

The Georgia game... Tough game to cap. Georgia looked great against LA for a quarter and a half. Then they got sloppy at the end of the second quarter... a bad bounce off the nets later and they're down 9 in a game they once led by 18. LA is a bad team. They got stopped 5 times in the 4th quarter... but Georgia couldn't capitalize. Arizona is still a solid ball club, but I'm not sure that they're in a physical state to beat anyone that far away from home when there's very little hype for the game. If I had a gun at my head and had to take a side, I'd probably go with the Rattlers and the 4 points. Georgia is going to figure out fast that they're not better than New Orleans, Tampa, or Orlando, which means they have no chance for the playoffs. It's a matter of time before this team packs it in.

Regarding your teaser options... I don't like either call. If I don't have confidence that Georgia can cover 4, I don't like their chances that much to win the game either, and only getting 3.5 doesn't leave enough value for my taste in a teaser. San Jose would be a trendy tease option to +1, but remember that this is a tough rough trip to a very loud arena in New Orleans. Andy Kelly won't be afraid of the SaberKitties, having beaten them before in San Jose as a member of the Nashville Kats. He's going to air it out. New Orleans is another team in that Southern Division that is quickly going to realize that they are going to need to win a lot of games to get in the playoffs... I believe that they will, and that three teams will represent the South in the playoffs. They probably won't win the game, but again, there are better teaser options. For example...

Over 88 in the Philadelphia/Nashville game
Under 109.5 in the Chicago/Colorado game
Over 83.5 in the Georgia/Arizona game

Hope this helps.

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War on I-4 Gameday Report and picks

Tampa's got a few more key injuries than expected.

Freddie Solomon is questionable for tonight's game after missing the Austin game last weekend. This one we knew about. He'll probably play. Too big of a game. More serious doubt and cause for concern for Tampa is the possible absences of Kelvin Kinney and Nyle Wiren, both of which are spiritual leaders of Tampa's line. If Tampa is without those two guys it could be a LONG day for Shane Stafford. Kinney is also Tampa's best sheer pash rusher, and without him in the lineup, it'll mean much more time for Joe Hamilton.

Though I like Orlando's chances of winning this game...

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Tampa (+3.5) @ Orlando (5 units, -101): Okay, so if the Preds lose, we're losing one tenth of a unit. I deem that to be acceptable, as I'm sure you all do as well. After doing all of the research, etc. on the game, the likelihood of an Orlando small victory is much better than the odds would suggest, and it's worth the virtually "Bonus Bet" in this game. Perhaps we run into the ultimate situation where we take home both halfs and walk away 10 units happier!

Austin (+7) vs. Los Angeles (2 units -101): Perhaps this will bite me in the a$$, but Austin and Grand Rapids are both going to cover some game this year. Austin was cursed and destined to an 0-2 start from the get-go, facinga high powered Philly offense and at division foe, Tampa. I'll say this about Austin. They picked off Tony Graziani 3 times. They were right there with Tampa most of the game. From what I heard from my buddy in Tampa, there wasn't ever a doubt that the Storm were going to win if they wanted to, but there was always that fear that look-ahead would set in and Austin might steal it. He agrees that Austin is better than 0-2 suggests. That being said, why the high number to start with? Los Angeles hasn't broken 100 points yet this season, 83 to be exact, and those were against a pretty porous Las Vegas defense and Georgia. John Fitzgerald takes over tonight at QB for Austin and John Kaleo returns to Austin on that field that is much shorter than any other in the AFL. Though Kaleo knows the field, his wide receivers don't, and it wouldn't surprise me to see Kaleo throw a couple picks into the end zone that his WRs are way past. Though no one seems overly optimistic about Austin's chances, they have to know that winning this week may get them at 2-2, as they welcome in Grand Rapids next week. Austin's going to cover some games, and they're going to win some games too. Philly was a 7.5 point favorite. Los Angeles shouldn't be starting off 7 in the hole.

Consequently...

Austin moneyline vs. Los Angeles (1 unit +204): This line has actually jumped to +222 in recent minutes. Get it while it's hot.

New York @ Las Vegas over 95 (3 units -105): I've had my eye on this game all week. Ever since Dolezel went down, the o/u has been fluctuating all over the place, finally settling at this number of 95. Let's start by saying that ANY AFL game can reach 100 points, no matter what QB is involved. New York will still sling the ball all over the place, and will likely reach at least 55 against Las Vegas, leaving the Gladiators roughly 6 TDs to score. No Clint Dolezel does appear to create some problems for the Gladiators, who are in big danger of dropping to 1-2. This is a dangerous game for New York, though. Screams trap. It really does. Rod Robinson was an NFL QB with the Jacksonville Jaguars in '02, and slipped to the af2 in '03, where he posted very solid numbers for the Memphis XTreme. Marcus Nash returns to action this week, and could post big numbers. Robinson isn't afraid to run with the ball, and could create some Michael Bishop-esque problems for the New York defense. This New York defense isn't anywhere near as good as the San Jose defense that shut out Vegas in the 2nd half last week, nor is the game on the road. Those factors have come into deep consideration. Missing Steve Konopka is going to hurt Vegas on the line as well, especially defensively. If they can't pressure Aaron Garcia, he's going to light them up. But if Garcia ends up letting Vegas stick around in this one, look out for the big time upset. This New York team isn't THAT good. Bet on Vegas to get to at least 45 in this one and New York to let us sail clear of the number.

No play on Saturday's game.

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Sweet, I get the Preds-Storm game on TV tonight... I'll provide live updates.
 

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THanks for the reply, Guru. You have given reason to look more closely at Gerogia, but I still kind of like them. One game that stands out to me is Dallas -8 against Columbus. What do you think? Destroyers are pretty bad....

I don't know about your Austin +7 selection. It is hard to make a case for Austin, even though LA hasn't looked good. Still, it's the Wranglers.

I like your NY/Vegas over and will play that.

The more I look at this Tampa/Orl game, I don't know. Getting four points looks appealing....
 

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Here is what I played: 3 team teaser:

Tampa +10---Dallas -2---Philly -6 100/180

Good luck Guru. Your write ups and insight are much appreciated.
 

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Columbus might be pretty bad, but I still will contend that Dallas is too. When you have over two fields worth of penalties in a game, that's bad. Dallas was a nice little story besting Chicago, but they're not going to be a .500 team.

You've got a nice little play if you can avoid the upsets. Best of luck.

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