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My roommate has been bothering me about this concept of "the middle" in betting in general (Budworth22). I hate doing it. I just can't stand taking a winning wager and putting it in jeopardy, or searching for this "perfect" number, even if the spread is a full 7 points. So as a general warning, I don't suggest hedging or middling any of the numbers on the board, UNLESS you bet Orlando and took the 4 or 4.5 points... just because I think this game just screams trap now for Orlando.

However, there are other options! I've spent the day trying to devise a way to get some of you some great lines to tease the 3 big plays I have this weekend back down to size. I don't suggest teasing Chicago at all. Just let it go. Teasing New York to a pick is just fine... And though I still don't feel that teasing the over is necessary, over 101 looks real nice as well. Things that you may consider putting these games with???

***Note: None of these are official picks... just suggestions if you didn't get the greatest line in the world***

Georgia (+10)- I just don't think John Kaleo can lead a team with so few offensive weapons to enough points to cover this number. The more this line moves in favor of the Avengers, the more I consider making it a play. However, I can't bring myself to do it... at least not yet. We'll see as the week progresses. However, I think there's GREAT value in teasing this Georgia team all season, as I believe that Georgia's defense will hold up against some of the bigger guns. And typically, the bigger gunned offenses will put up somewhere in the 50s, meaning Georgia will just need to get to about 45 to stay within all the numbers.

Colorado (-6.5) OR Grand Rapids (+21.5) - I know... advising a middle after all of this about not middling. Colorado's offense is much better than Orlando's defense made them look. Grand Rapids isn't going to be able to stick with them all game. That being said, I believe that 6.5 is a very reasonable number for the Crush to cover against a simply put, miserable team. HOWEVER... Grand Rapids is going to cover people this year. I've said it all week and will continue to say it. I don't know if Colorado's defense is really good enough, especially with the health of Hughley in question, to hold Grand Rapids under 40. If Grand Rapids gets to 40, that means Colorado's gotta score 62 to cover the number... I see it as the books have this one right within a few points either direction. Either side is a nice tease.

Tampa Bay (-6)- I don't want to call this an absolute slam dunk, but Tampa SHOULD easily dispose of a pitiful Austin team, that out-turnovered Philly and still got slammed. Their offense is right up there with Columbus' and Grand Rapids'. However, Tampa has this history... Coming off the big win against San Jose... Big game in the Jungle next week... Could Marcum's boys be looking ahead??? Honestly, I think Tampa's gonna win this game and win it going away, but the first half might be a bit interesting. Shane Stafford doesn't have to play lights out to beat this team like he did last week. He's just gotta be average. Problem for Shane Stafford: Massive hit or miss. Too many 4 turnover games for Stafford. Though I don't anticipate this to happen, you never know. Tampa's going to win this game, the question being by how much. Two TDs is a lot to cover for a team who's still got a lousy kicker in Matt George. But 6? Easy enough. Not in Tampa.

This should get some great numbers for you all. The options are there. I'm not a massive fan of these teasers, but for the value considering the lines, they're not bad alternatives.

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So AFLGURU could you list the games to play for today and tomorrow? Thanks in advance.:103631605
 

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Here's the list for today and tomorrow...




Hope you got that list okay. The only games I'm playing this weekend are the three I listed at the very beginning. The teasers I suggested are things to try putting together with numbers like New York (teased to a pick) and over 101.5 (teased from 109). But my listed plays for the purpose of this board at the current moment are just the three from the beginning of the thread. Check back at halftime of the games over the next few days for a possible added 2nd half play (18-5 last year in 2nd halfs... 0-1 this year). There still may be one last play for the weekend, but check back tomorrow for that. Still waiting for a better injury report. I hate playing on guys that are "questionable." But this is probably it.

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aflguru can u just do a quick recap of what u are taking bc my lines are different now, im jumping on board kinda late and want to make sure i got ur plays correct
thanks and GL
 

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I'll repeat once again what I'm playing, but I'm not too sure you're going to want to jump on. Thus I'll leave you MY plays and YOUR options. What you actually do with these are up to you.

My plays...

New York vs. Dallas over 104.5 (5 units)
New York (-2.5) vs. Dallas (3 units)
Chicago (+7.5) vs. Philadelphia (4 units)

Up to the second Pinnacle lines...

New York vs. Dallas over 109: I STILL recommend this play at this number, but don't recommend 5 units on it. Perhaps try a 3 or a 4, and look at your teaser options.

New York (-7) vs. Dallas: Can't recommend at all. I love New York to win this game outright, and to win by the small number, but with the amount of points I hope to have scored in this game, we need scores, not stops. Though I do believe New York is ultimately going to cover this number as well, I can't recommend it. If you'd like to buy it down to -4.5, it's a BETTER play, but not a great one.

Chicago (pk) vs. Philadelphia: Gee look... right where I had this game tabbed at the beginning of the week. I'll say a couple things... 1) I still think this is a good play. I've been picking Chicago outright in this one all week... I just didn't think it would called an upset if it happened... at least not a big one. 2) That being said, the value simply isn't there at pk as it was 7.5 points ago. I'm not going to be held responsible if Chicago loses this game by a few points, but I'd have to say a small bet is probably in order if you're a late joiner at the pick 'em odds.

Your options... Tease any or all of the above mentioned games to get back to numbers closer to mine with any or all of the following.

Georgia (+10.5)
Colorado (-6.5)
Grand Rapids (+21.5)
Tampa (-6.5)

I've stated before I'm not a huge fan of teasers in the AFL. Though I'll probably jump aboard on one every now and then, I usually won't find the need to take 7.5 points on a line. If I think a line is way off, THAT'S when I'm jumping... not waiting for the lines to come back to me to get them back where they were... if that makes any sense. I'll leave choices of units, etc. up to you.

The AFLGuruChick has arrived and sends her best (I can't believe she actually ALLOWS me to use the term "AFLGuruChick" while she's around). Be watching for a possible 2nd half opportunity in the Arizona/Orlando game. For those craving the action tonight, PPeter suggests taking Arizona and the points and over 91, both of which I believe are the proper sides of the game, just not games in which I'm willing to lay on (and I'll never lay directly against the Preds no matter how many points).

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The Cory Fleming Show

Man what a disasterous start for Arizona... Quick strike by the Predators... that's right, a QUICK strike by the Predators, then Joe Germaine gets picked by Fleming (after he caught the first score). 13-0 Preds in the first 5 minutes... gee what a surprise, ANOTHER missed PAT for Orlando... Steve McLaughlin I'm going to kill you...

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Preds-Rattlers In Game

Start of the 2nd quarter... Preds have picked off Germaine twice. Only one stood. Local TV watcher (good ole Dad) says the Preds defense is absolutely swarming. If the Preds are up 2 stops going into the 2nd half, look for this to be an under play if the number is reasonable. Keep you updated. 20-7 Preds starting the 2nd quarter.
 

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Damn I'm sorry I went to be last night when the Preds went up by 4 TDs in the first half. Just knew the second half would be under. Don't know what the number was, but 39 certainly was under the number. Orlando should've won the game by at least 14 (damn kicker), and the number should've been over (damn kicker). But hey, no harm, no foul. Can't lose a bet not placed! We'll nail 'em on Sunday. Possible 2nd halfers tonight as well with the two games. Anyone with Bet365 can live bet the Georgia/LA game, but I won't be following that as my account currently reads 0.00 with Bet365. Slightly higher in Pinnacle...

Anyway, how unfortunate that the AFLGuruChick is in town and I still have to go to class this morning... as you can tell by this unheard of hour that I'm writing at. Roxy, if you're up for this one, you definitely need a life.

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Georgia @ LA

Okay guys, I think I picked up a real good read on this game for a possible parlay situation for a very small play. First off, I need to make sure that Pinnacle allows the parlay situation in-game, and then need to read up on just a few more things before I pull the trigger. I like putting together small, 1 unit or 1/2 unit parlays to win much much more at times, particularly in-game (worked with the Predators like a CHARM last season... kept taking the Preds and the under... and especially that 30-7 game last year against Georgia... that was a thing of beauty). Lots and lots of great stats to back up the reads. Just give me until roughly 1:00 this afternoon so I can get off campus to place these bets, and then they're all yours. Got this thing about placing bets from an on-campus college computer that just strikes me wrong.

Be back a bit later. Anyone that's got thoughts on the game, please share them here.

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That was great X-Files. Simply great.

Be back in about an hour with that new pick.

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Guru,

Placing wagers at FSU? I thought that was required of all players and students. I'm only kidding! I'm looking forward to your picks.
 

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Small plays tonight that I think I developed some pretty good reads on. Hate to do this one to PPeter and Ace Ace, but I think I might have something here. Here comes those moves that the dudes who really do this for a living are going to hate...

1) Parlay: New Orleans vs. Nashville over 91 w/ Georgia vs. Los Angeles under 95.5 (0.5 unit +261)

2) Parlay: New Orleans vs. Nashville over 91 w/ Georgia moneyline (0.5 unit +337)

3) Parlay: New Orleans vs. Nashville over 91 w/ Georgia moneyline w/ Georgia vs. Los Angeles under 95.5 (0.25 unit +731)

Okay, so we've got some longshots here. The likelihood of the clean sweep today is pretty minimal, but A LOT better than 1 out of 8. I feel that the game of the night to hit these with is New Orleans/Nashville over 91. I think there's a lot of value in this line since New Orleans will not even try to run the football. They ran the ball twice all of last week, and the guy they handed it to is now on IR. Their receivers match up well against the shorter DBs of Nashville and will be able to put some points up on the board. Nashville will run the ball and try to control the clock a bit, but that didn't stop them from capitalizing by gambling on defense. Their defense reminds me a lot of Orlando's defense from a few years back when the pass rush wasn't as great. The addition of James Baron should cause an extra turnover/stop from last week's game against Columbus. Though all signs point to an under game, I believe that the Kats are going to re-open the Alley with a flourish, letting Leon Murray try some deep balls early and often. Mike Neu learned a lot from Pat Sperduto when he was an assistant in Nashville, so except to see the coaches go at it with some trickeration... which usually results in points for someone... no one knows who though. I think this is going to be a close game throughout, with the difference being which new QB is going to make the big throw in the big situation.

Regarding the Georgia game, I believe we have a value play. Georgia shouldn't be a dog in this game. This is the 2nd straight week that the general public is overrating this Los Angeles team. Too often people are jumping back at last year and saying that this LA team WILL score points... newsflash: no they won't. John Kaleo led an offense that was inept last season in Austin, and his wide receivers are no better in LA now. Though I believe that Ed Hodgekiss will end up making this team competitive by year's end, I still think there's too many kinks to work out in this period of time. Georgia kept their roll going from last season by outlasting Andy Kelly and a very good VooDoo team last week. LA didn't have it down the stretch to keep up with Clint Dolezel and Marcus Nash, despite a solid defensive effort. Expect the defenses to control this game. The road team in this series is 2-1 SU and ATS. Don't think the points are necessary in this game, as I believe that we're going to be talking about a new QB in Los Angeles very soon once Hodgekiss realizes that Kaleo is only a shell of his former self.

For the record: this is going to act as an if/then play. If things look real bad in this first game, we are going to go back and bet the Georgia game each for 1 unit. Except some second half bets in this one, as I think I've got some pretty good reads that will carry on throughout the game and into the 2nd half.

Best of luck on your action tonight, albeit some small stuff... Yes, I'm going to count this in with my record, though regardless after tonight, I'll still be above the 0.00 line in units... which will forever be the number of notice.

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Does anyone happen to have either a TV or radio pickup of this game that can share what's going on... All I see is 7-0 New Orleans with no indication who has the ball, how much time is left in the game, etc. Arenafootball.com's gametracker isn't working right now.

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Thanks Baloney--

Just wish I had a real live feed of the game so I actually know what's going on instead of guessing who's got the ball, who won the toss, etc. Yeah, 96 is an even better under number than 95.5! Keep true with it... Looks like I might be putting a unit down on each because the Kats haven't figured out how to score yet. Need a 4 TD quarter to consider letting that ride.

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