I second that OB, FINAL FOUR TEAM
ACC just sucks, duke lost to frickin purdue and when ur talking about out of conference schedules who have the ACC teams played outside of the ACC, each team maybe played 1 or 2 strong opponents
look at dukes out of conference schedule, who is the #1 team in the ACC
detroit, pacific, liberty, st johns, portland, princeton, davidson, fairfield, georgetown, valparaiso
quality teams to a point: texas, purdue(questionable) and mich state who played like shit at the time duke played them.
GEE THATS A VERY STRONG SCHEDULE so dont give me that gonzaga has a weak schedule crap
ACC just sucks, duke lost to frickin purdue and when ur talking about out of conference schedules who have the ACC teams played outside of the ACC, each team maybe played 1 or 2 strong opponents
look at dukes out of conference schedule, who is the #1 team in the ACC
detroit, pacific, liberty, st johns, portland, princeton, davidson, fairfield, georgetown, valparaiso
quality teams to a point: texas, purdue(questionable) and mich state who played like shit at the time duke played them.
GEE THATS A VERY STRONG SCHEDULE so dont give me that gonzaga has a weak schedule crap
When Purdue beat Duke, Purdue had their whole team, Purdue has been without their best post player since December. They also lost their best player Lowe for 3 or 4 games, which I believe they lost a majority of those. They have had a lot of injuries, but the team that beat Duke was a legit top 20 team.
I think Gonzaga is a great team who could go to the final 4, but Gonzaga plays 16 or 18 games during conference which are against poor competition. They go on the road and play in gyms that are smaller than high school gyms that I played in, in Indiana.
I think Gonzaga is a great team who could go to the final 4, but Gonzaga plays 16 or 18 games during conference which are against poor competition. They go on the road and play in gyms that are smaller than high school gyms that I played in, in Indiana.
respecting your opinion a great deal but,
ths isn't hoosiers, this isn't gonzaga first time to the dance. this team has already been to the elite eight, they expect to be there.
some of the teams the big ten play are just as bad.
central, northern, ball st. they all suck.
northern iowa, wisc mil, green bay, the list goes on and on.
lets just stop singling out the zags.
what is stanfords rpi or strength of schedule.
pepperdine or st marys would have a great shot at winning the mac.
keep capping the big ten, yo do a great job.
i just know when or if the zags play a big conf, i would have to cover my eyes or ears.
wish you good luck the rest of way. thanks for the input.
ths isn't hoosiers, this isn't gonzaga first time to the dance. this team has already been to the elite eight, they expect to be there.
some of the teams the big ten play are just as bad.
central, northern, ball st. they all suck.
northern iowa, wisc mil, green bay, the list goes on and on.
lets just stop singling out the zags.
what is stanfords rpi or strength of schedule.
pepperdine or st marys would have a great shot at winning the mac.
keep capping the big ten, yo do a great job.
i just know when or if the zags play a big conf, i would have to cover my eyes or ears.
wish you good luck the rest of way. thanks for the input.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Railbird:
pepperdine lost by 2 AT OKST, and its a down yr for waves<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
And they also lost to IUPUI on a neutral court?
I love how you guys pick one game where one team either played really well or really poorly, and try to show make a point with it.
pepperdine lost by 2 AT OKST, and its a down yr for waves<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
And they also lost to IUPUI on a neutral court?
I love how you guys pick one game where one team either played really well or really poorly, and try to show make a point with it.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally
so i guess the number one seed should be smu, since they beat purdue, who beat duke.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
By the way you guys argue, I guess they should be #1.
Please name me ONE team that Gonzaga has beaten during this entire season that is will make an at-large bid in the NCAAs without going deep in their conference tourney. Thanks.
so i guess the number one seed should be smu, since they beat purdue, who beat duke.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
By the way you guys argue, I guess they should be #1.
Please name me ONE team that Gonzaga has beaten during this entire season that is will make an at-large bid in the NCAAs without going deep in their conference tourney. Thanks.
see that is the problem with this crap.
do you actually think i was serious about smu.
actually with the media and fans never thinking outside the box, i'm surprised we even have this tournanment.
lets just give it duke, or stanford, or st joes. hell why even play it.
I have backedup every statement with proof. who cares if the teams they beat won't get an at large selection.
michigan might not get in-probably-but not for sure. so since they beat nc state, nc state should be on the bubble, and since duke lost to nc state, and nc state doesn't get in, then duke stays at home also.
quit blaming a schedule. and start coming up with facts. has gonzaga lost to a team that isn't in the tournanment.
i bet there will be a lot of teams in this tournanment that have lost to teams that won't get in.
start getting some facts boys.
do you actually think i was serious about smu.
actually with the media and fans never thinking outside the box, i'm surprised we even have this tournanment.
lets just give it duke, or stanford, or st joes. hell why even play it.
I have backedup every statement with proof. who cares if the teams they beat won't get an at large selection.
michigan might not get in-probably-but not for sure. so since they beat nc state, nc state should be on the bubble, and since duke lost to nc state, and nc state doesn't get in, then duke stays at home also.
quit blaming a schedule. and start coming up with facts. has gonzaga lost to a team that isn't in the tournanment.
i bet there will be a lot of teams in this tournanment that have lost to teams that won't get in.
start getting some facts boys.
gonzaga would have 4 or 5 losses in conference usa. If you have watched gonzaga they do run it up on inferior competition. (that is why i love few) When you play a big ten or acc type of schedule; you don't get to take games off like you can in the west. Also the officiating is alot different by the coast. In the 10 (who i hate) there is alot of banging. I think gonzaga is a great team but to say that they would win a big time conf. is a joke. Inconsistancy in the big conf. happens all the time. unc-charlotte beats syracuse at syracuse than loses at g.w. I think the grind would get gonzaga
True- When have I not came with facts, I have came with facts in every single one of my posts. You talk about Big 10 teams playing cupcakes, yet you don't realize that Big 10 teams also play a Big 10 schedule where they play good teams night in/night out, besides for a couple of teams. so you want facts????? Take a look at this
Gonzaga is 19-0 vs teams ranked between 101-200 in the RPI, 19 games against losers like this? Noone else in the country have played taht many teams ranked 101-200, granted some lower level conference teams have played more teams 201+. Gonzaga is 2-2 vs top 50 teams
, and only 3-0 vs 51-100, making them 5-2 vs top 100
Gonzagas conference has RPIs of, 131, 189, 119, 108, 191, 298, 141, 131. Pretty ugly. I dont think you are getting my argument, I have been backing it up with facts. Gonzaga gets a 16 game break at the end of the season, they get to play all these cupcakes. Their 2nd round game in the NCAA will be the 3rd best team they have faced the entire year. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
Gonzaga is 19-0 vs teams ranked between 101-200 in the RPI, 19 games against losers like this? Noone else in the country have played taht many teams ranked 101-200, granted some lower level conference teams have played more teams 201+. Gonzaga is 2-2 vs top 50 teams
Gonzagas conference has RPIs of, 131, 189, 119, 108, 191, 298, 141, 131. Pretty ugly. I dont think you are getting my argument, I have been backing it up with facts. Gonzaga gets a 16 game break at the end of the season, they get to play all these cupcakes. Their 2nd round game in the NCAA will be the 3rd best team they have faced the entire year. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
chico2663
what kind of info do you have to back up 4 or 5 loss's in the conf usa.
none.
their isn't a team in the big ten that would travel to zaga land, play at midnight, and come out of that building with a win. that gives me 6 to 8 wins already. plus they beat ohio state, northwestern, minny, purdue on the road. that gives the ags at least 11- 12 wins. guess what big ten champs.
boys boys boys-gonzaga has three players that will be drafted. name one other school that will have that happen this year.
you can't, cause there isn't.
what kind of info do you have to back up 4 or 5 loss's in the conf usa.
none.
their isn't a team in the big ten that would travel to zaga land, play at midnight, and come out of that building with a win. that gives me 6 to 8 wins already. plus they beat ohio state, northwestern, minny, purdue on the road. that gives the ags at least 11- 12 wins. guess what big ten champs.
boys boys boys-gonzaga has three players that will be drafted. name one other school that will have that happen this year.
you can't, cause there isn't.
I love how you guys keep on talking about the great Gonzaga road win at Maryland, I figured you might come clean but still havent. This game was not played at Maryland, this game was in Washington DC at a nuetral site, sure more Maryland fans were there, but it wasnt like playing on Maryland's campus.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Matt24:
True- When have I not came with facts, I have came with facts in every single one of my posts. You talk about Big 10 teams playing cupcakes, yet you don't realize that Big 10 teams also play a Big 10 schedule where they play good teams night in/night out, besides for a couple of teams. so you want facts????? Take a look at this
Gonzaga is 19-0 vs teams ranked between 101-200 in the RPI, 19 games against losers like this? Noone else in the country have played taht many teams ranked 101-200, granted some lower level conference teams have played more teams 201+. Gonzaga is 2-2 vs top 50 teams
, and only 3-0 vs 51-100, making them 5-2 vs top 100
Gonzagas conference has RPIs of, 131, 189, 119, 108, 191, 298, 141, 131. Pretty ugly. I dont think you are getting my argument, I have been backing it up with facts. Gonzaga gets a 16 game break at the end of the season, they get to play all these cupcakes. Their 2nd round game in the NCAA will be the 3rd best team they have faced the entire year. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So Gonzaga has one more Top-50 win than Michigan St.
But seriously, what top-100 team will play at Gonzaga? There is the problem.
True- When have I not came with facts, I have came with facts in every single one of my posts. You talk about Big 10 teams playing cupcakes, yet you don't realize that Big 10 teams also play a Big 10 schedule where they play good teams night in/night out, besides for a couple of teams. so you want facts????? Take a look at this
Gonzaga is 19-0 vs teams ranked between 101-200 in the RPI, 19 games against losers like this? Noone else in the country have played taht many teams ranked 101-200, granted some lower level conference teams have played more teams 201+. Gonzaga is 2-2 vs top 50 teams
Gonzagas conference has RPIs of, 131, 189, 119, 108, 191, 298, 141, 131. Pretty ugly. I dont think you are getting my argument, I have been backing it up with facts. Gonzaga gets a 16 game break at the end of the season, they get to play all these cupcakes. Their 2nd round game in the NCAA will be the 3rd best team they have faced the entire year. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So Gonzaga has one more Top-50 win than Michigan St.
truly, how can you say "quit blaming a schedule"
It's Gonzaga's fault that they play a cupcake schedule. Why doesn't Gonzaga go play a quality team on their court? Gonzaga has played two good teams this season, Joe's and the Cardinal, both on neutral courts. They choose not to go play any quality opponents in true road games. Who cares how many players they have drafted this season? That's irrelevant. We're talking about how good of a team they are, not how good their individuals seniors are. You keep bringing up irrelevant point.
It's Gonzaga's fault that they play a cupcake schedule. Why doesn't Gonzaga go play a quality team on their court? Gonzaga has played two good teams this season, Joe's and the Cardinal, both on neutral courts. They choose not to go play any quality opponents in true road games. Who cares how many players they have drafted this season? That's irrelevant. We're talking about how good of a team they are, not how good their individuals seniors are. You keep bringing up irrelevant point.
truly, how can you say "quit blaming a schedule"
It's Gonzaga's fault that they play a cupcake schedule. Why doesn't Gonzaga go play a quality team on their court? Gonzaga has played two good teams this season, Joe's and the Cardinal, both on neutral courts. They choose not to go play any quality opponents in true road games. Who cares how many players they have drafted this season? That's irrelevant. We're talking about how good of a team they are, not how good their individuals seniors are. You keep bringing up irrelevant points.
It's Gonzaga's fault that they play a cupcake schedule. Why doesn't Gonzaga go play a quality team on their court? Gonzaga has played two good teams this season, Joe's and the Cardinal, both on neutral courts. They choose not to go play any quality opponents in true road games. Who cares how many players they have drafted this season? That's irrelevant. We're talking about how good of a team they are, not how good their individuals seniors are. You keep bringing up irrelevant points.
Gonzaga players being drafted- I looked up 3 mock drafts and Stepp is a 2nd rounder in all of them, and Turiaf is a 2nd rounder in 2, and Violette isnt anywhere, nor is he in the huge database at www.draftcity.com
You talk about scheduling. Well you guys are going to love this. Mike Davis wanted to add 3 home and home series for next year, UCOnn, Kansas, and Gonzaga. It took about 2 weeks and the UConn series was a go, Kansas looks like it will happen too, and you know who doesnt want a home and home, frickin Gonzaga. Maybe it will end up happening, but as of now, Gonzaga doesn't want to add IU to their schedule.
You talk about scheduling. Well you guys are going to love this. Mike Davis wanted to add 3 home and home series for next year, UCOnn, Kansas, and Gonzaga. It took about 2 weeks and the UConn series was a go, Kansas looks like it will happen too, and you know who doesnt want a home and home, frickin Gonzaga. Maybe it will end up happening, but as of now, Gonzaga doesn't want to add IU to their schedule.
dude cincy or anyother of conference usa teams would have no problem going to gonzaga. the problem is gonzaga's gym isn't big enough to pay for the money. cincy has went to boise or whereever to play anyone. when has the last time gonzaga gone to syracuse and knocked off syracuse. also little pertinent fact. last year syracuse lost in the preseason nit at madison square gardens to a c-usa team. than didn't lose at home all year. this year they lost at home to conf usa. also you make a stupid statement that gonzaga would win the mac. in the last 20 years i think at least 4 teams from the mac went to the elite 8. I think gonzaga was the only team from that stiff of a conf. to go that far. to put gonzaga in the same category as the mac is a joke. in the nba the mac has put players from ron harper to bonzi wells. tell me besides stockton who has gonzaga conference put out. I can name at least 10 mac players that were good.
