I wouldn't necessarily say that...
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11/08 @ Texas A&M 9-1 (5-1) W 66-28
11/22 No. 2 Texas Tech 10-1 (6-1) W 65-21 <- after a last minute touchdown that meant nothing...
Also A&M was leading tech at half at home
Texas v Tech at half was 6-22
TECH v A&M was 20-23
hmmm... anyway, regardless of the useless info about past events, i dont think A&M has a chance... but no one gave them a chance the last two years. The only reason i think they got by texas, is fran in all his genius ran option the entire year, so texas was going to be ready for that, but A&M came out passing. Even A&M fans didnt know what was going on.
Anyway, this is a rivalry game for A&M, not much for Texas, but this is one A&M players look for all year, however this year Texas will not be looking past A&M since there is a NC waiting for them if they can pull off a large enough victory. All im saying is, going by what happened in other games doesnt necessarily mean anything. A&M's defense is terrible though
jb...Everybody has their opinions on how a team is going to react after their first loss..It's just a gamble we have to take. I'm one who is more inclined to think that more teams have letdowns after big wins than they do big losses. Especially when there is still so much to play for this season. Look at how bad Missouri got trounced by Texas. They came back the next week and handed Colorado their worst defeat of the year. I would hate to base my entire bet on what you think is a team's state of mind. Truth is, we simply don't know. I just know that Baylor so far hasn't been competetive against the major players in the Big 12 South. And I think it continues here...I can hear Mike Leach right now telling his team "if you let up and lose this game to Baylor and then OSU beats OU, you'll regret not making it to the Big 12 Championship for the rest of your lives".
Silver...I'm also playing it small because you never know for sure how a team is going to play after that big of an effort. If OU played like they did the other night they'll win this game by a couple TD's. But that was the most perfect game that i've seen OU play in years. The chances of repeating that performance is pretty remote. Especially their defensive performance. And I think this is where OU is going to run into problems in Stillwater..It is very hard to defense on the road the most balanced offense in the country with a mobile QB. I'm afraid what is going to happen here is OSU's offense is going to keep Bradford & company on the sidelines. I think we're probably in for a close game that's going to fall pretty close to the spread. The homefield advantage in the South Division has been gold this year.
I have a 3 team parlay with A&M left to cover (Ball St. and Navy already did). I love the Aggies, but the insight and discussion on this thread has made me hedge the bet to take the guaranteed money!!! Thank you!
GL to all... Personally, I am not making any BIG 12 bets this weekend.
GL to all... Personally, I am not making any BIG 12 bets this weekend.
I agree on your BCS analysis.. it really might even be inferior to what we had before. At least we could watch all bowl games before judging the champ then. I kind of lean towards Baylor in the Tech game though. I think an early game in Lubbock is a little different when fans and players are deflated. If you have any book that lets you play "pleasers".. Texas and OU are great candidates! 
Best of luck again this week GS. I think NU will roll the Buffs Friday, not sure how much CU will be able to score and don't see CU's defense slowing down NU's offense.
You know its's funny, back in the late 90's when NU was still running the option everyone said that they needed to junk it, it was outdated, top recruits wouldn't want to come here, etc. Now, especially after watching the ESPN announcers gush over Georgia Tech's triple option a couple of Thursdays ago,it seems that the option is now some wonderful "new" offense that run right no one can stop. The spread offense is similar to option in that it tries to get mismatches on the outside. I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same.
You know its's funny, back in the late 90's when NU was still running the option everyone said that they needed to junk it, it was outdated, top recruits wouldn't want to come here, etc. Now, especially after watching the ESPN announcers gush over Georgia Tech's triple option a couple of Thursdays ago,it seems that the option is now some wonderful "new" offense that run right no one can stop. The spread offense is similar to option in that it tries to get mismatches on the outside. I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Maven...I don't play parlays very often because I always seem to miss that third game. But whenever I have played them I've always hedged my last play if I hit the first two legs of a bet. Better to come out even than to not come out at all...Good luckI have a 3 team parlay with A&M left to cover (Ball St. and Navy already did). I love the Aggies, but the insight and discussion on this thread has made me hedge the bet to take the guaranteed money!!! Thank you!
GL to all... Personally, I am not making any BIG 12 bets this weekend.
Rowdy...Barry Switzer used to say there isn't an offense out there that can't work if you have the right players to run it..With the quick defenses that we have today you have to have a little variance to your option attack. But there is basically no reason why it won't work. The only reason more major colleges don't use it as an exclusive attack is because your better receivers in the country more than likely won't go to a school that plays the option as their exclusive offense. But it's great for the smaller schools like Air Force and Navy. These teams have been consistently good every year for the past few years. I'm curious to see what kinds of players Paul Johnson at Ga Tech can draft for his option offense in the next few years..His offense is only averaging 96 yards passing a game..So in all liklihood none of your name NFL prospect wide receivers are going to want to come to that school if they can't get any action. As for Nebraska this weekend, I have a lean towards the Huskers to cover in this game. I just wish the line hadn't moved up so high. I feel the same way about Missouri. The original line looked much better than the line looks now. But I still have a lean to both teams.
Two-Niner...There seems to be alot of disagreement in here about the Texas Tech-Baylor game. But I'm one of those in the corner that believes one game doesn't make or destroy a season. I believe TT will come back this week. Can you imagine before the OU game how many people would have jumped on this -21 line after Texas Tech beat OSU 52-20. Amazing what a difference a week makes.I agree on your BCS analysis.. it really might even be inferior to what we had before. At least we could watch all bowl games before judging the champ then. I kind of lean towards Baylor in the Tech game though. I think an early game in Lubbock is a little different when fans and players are deflated. If you have any book that lets you play "pleasers".. Texas and OU are great candidates!
I don't know about the Tech team for certain, but Mike Leach has already snapped back to his regular arrogant ways. There's a story in the Lubbock A-J (and maybe on the wires now) where he's lobbying for higher ranking for his team, saying they're the best one-loss team in the country.
For those of us betting Tech this is good news.
AA....I have a pretty strong feeling that Texas Tech is going to be in the Big 12 Championship Game. So their not going to screw the pooch against Baylor...I'm also waiting for the Bookmaker Moneyline plays to come out. I'm going to have a small one unit wager on the OSU ML this weekend. Just call it a bad feeling I have on the game.
The Sooners' performances in their recent big games just has you gunshy. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some sort of letdown after their last game -- that just can't be duplicated -- but I can't see them losing SU. Stoops has got to hate that "choker" label that's somehow gotten stuck on him.
LSU D is a sieve. Pathetic effort by LSU at home last week against Ole Miss. This has the look of a team that is disappointed with how their season has gone and has mailed it in. If they can't even get fired up to play at home against Ole Miss, their effort level may be even more disgusting on the road in what amounts to a meaningless game for the Tigers.
Here's an article I pulled up on the LSU situation. Personally I think it's an iffy play. But I did notice the other day that when freshman QB Jefferson is in the game, the hurry up offense works pretty well for LSU. If I was Miles I would stick to that gameplan this week against a weak Arkansas defense. Problem is both pass defenses are weak by SEC standards. But the big difference between Ole Miss last week and Arkansas, is Arky can't run the ball. So if the LSU DL can take care of business, they can probably keep 7 men back and play the pass all day. Something they weren't able to do against Ole Miss. Arky is also weak against the run. So LSU needs to keep it on the ground and stay away from mistakes..Really a close call, because we don't know the exact mindset of the LSU team going into the game. I know that whether LSU wins or loses, they'll still just be going to some minor bowl named after a hamburger joint or a hardware store. So LSU doesn't have just a whole lot to play for here. But Arky really doesn't either.
Bob Heist • bheist@theadvertiser.com • November 25, 2008
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Recurring disasters from the quarterback position, a slow trigger on personnel changes, a playbook that at times was too fat and at times too thin, inept execution - those are just a few obvious issues
following Saturday's 31-13 loss to Ole Miss that dropped the slumping program to 7-4 overall and 3-4 in the Southeastern Conference.
But the one constant is how those problems - and others - continue to repeat.
Coach Les Miles admitted he's puzzled, too.
"I must not have prepared us as well as I could have; there's no question. Don't pretend for a minute that I'm not looking at me and our coaching staff in a very critical way," Miles said during his weekly press conference Monday. "If our guys don't understand it, why don't they understand it? I asked that question, and sometimes the answers are a little bit harder to explain.
"You just don't understand at times why the points are not made. How are we doing? We have seven victories, and that's too few."
Miles also seemed confused when explaining another poor defensive performance against Ole Miss, which became the third team in the last five games to pass for more than 300 yards. LSU fell to next-to-last in pass defense in the SEC this week, ranked No. 11 at 215.5 yards per game.
"I think if you look at the defense and how they played and you remove a fake punt, a couple of long passes and their first drive - a mistake versus cover-2 (that allowed a 34-yard touchdown pass) - the defense played pretty well," Miles said to a puzzled group of reporters.
No matter how it's broken down, though, these are not the best of times for the Tigers.
The team's four losses double any of Miles' first three seasons and are just the third time this decade that LSU has suffered more than three. Plus, this week, the Tigers fell out of the rankings for the first time since losing to Texas in the Cotton Bowl to end the 2002 season. The program had been ranked 95 straight weeks in the USA Today coaches' poll and 94 straight by the Associated Press.
"This is the most games I've lost playing football," said sophomore safety Chad Jones, a prep star at St. Augustine and Southern Lab high schools. "Nothing feels right about what's happening."
And it certainly doesn't for a defense that's been a shell of last year's national championship team.
The Tigers are 11th in the SEC in both scoring and passing defense, and 10th in total defense. Nationally, the best ranking is No. 32 in total defense; the worst No. 76 in pass defense.
A defense that a year ago created 36 turnovers and had 37 sacks has just 15 and 16, respectively.
"Teams now know how to face our style of play," defensive tackle Charles Alexander said. "Last year, two years ago, we were knocking out quarterbacks left and right. ...
"I don't have words for it. Teams are improving to our style of play."
Which led to an obvious question for Miles: Is this team, specifically the defense, performing below standards by using Doug Mallory and Bradley Dale Peveto - holdovers from the staff of first-year Nebraska head coach Bo Pelini - as dual defensive coordinators?
"Reviewing the coaches, I think that they are getting it coached. I really do," Miles said. "I have to say that to pinpoint a mistake is still a very significant issue to me. I can't go by that. It has to be made better. I think the familiarity of call and some of those things we've benefitted from, but obviously ... we have to improve."
"It's the same plays we were calling last year, so it has nothing to do with the coaches," Alexander said. "We know what to do ... I just don't know how to explain it. It's just not getting done. This whole year is a mystery how it's gone.
"I guess the dice aren't rolling real good for us this year."
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You got a good number..I think it's up over 6 now...I wished I had been home this afternoon to play on Texas...I knew they were going to roll Oregon. It's hard for me to get that excited about B-Ball until the regular season football is over..But I am looking forward to going to a few OU games. I think they could be a top 10 team this year.
