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all you need is book by

Thorpe
Wong
Revere
Patterson

etc.

Try:

Playing blackjack as a business by Revere.

all give you what you need.
 

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thanks.

so i guess it's safe to say dont practice in online casinos?
 

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There is no roulette 'strategy'. The ball doesn't remember where it landed last time.

As for BJ, practice on a video game. Forget counting. Just learn basic strategy and follow it.

If you see a shitload of face cards, aces and 10s dealt, go take a leak.
 

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how much more of an advantage does the house have on a roulette wheel with a 0 and 00?
 

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red numbers will put you in the red. play 26 black and 28 black evry spin on the inside at 35-1 and you will win money. Tell the croupier NO 9's if you look at the wheel you will see why. I had Lakers over tonight so i am going on a roll now. Jump aboard, you deserve to win.
 

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Doug I Can See You Understand BJ

doesn't matter long-term. Player could draw a 7,and bust, to save the table, or a ten, then the dealer gets a 7.

I don't enjoy bad players, but it makes little difference.

When he tells you play "BS", don't just "play it" play it PERFECTLY, this means studying untill you know it like you know your SSN! NEVER take insurance. And finding a table where the house S on soft 17 will be hard, but well worth it. Use MM and don't vary. BOL to you.
 
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here is a simple system that you can do mindlessly and drink and enjoy. Don't plan on winning much or losing much. With this you system if you want to call it here is what I do.

First you look for some sort of streak, 5 odd in a row, or 6 black in a row. I understand the roulette wheel has no memory and all the math. It's just the way I play it.

Start with a goal per small session. Lets say its three units. so you write down 1 1 1. If there have been 6 black in a row I would wager 2 units on red. The way you determine your wager amount is the outside two numbers in the 1 1 1. Lets assume you lose. your series of numbers is now 1 1 1 2. So your next bet is 1+2 the two outside numbers. Lets assume you lose again. the series is now 1 1 1 2 3. Your next wager is 4 units (1 +3). You win that wager you now cross off the 1 at one end and the 3 at the other end. and your series looks like 1 1 2. Next wager is 1+2 or 3 units. At this point in time I would look at what hasn't come in for awhile red, black, odd, even, high or low numbers and go with that. Lets say you lose. series now looks like 1123. Win the next 4 unit series (1+3). cross out the 1 and 3. Next wager 3 units. lets say you win. Your small series is closed out and you won three units.

so you went L,L,W,L,W,W actually you went 3-3 on your bets which is about what you would expect by betting redo or black for 6 wagers. But because you varied your bet amounts you showed a profit of 3 units. This type of wagering works best for what I would call choppy results where things should be around 50%. Long losing streaks will increase the units bet. Thats why I take something like 6 blacks in a row and bet red. The odds of 15 blacks in a row are pretty low.

You can play around with this before you go just flip a coin and see if you are comfortable with it. It is simple. You will also see you can go like 4-5 and show a profit...where you actually had more losing bets than winning bets but the variation in size closed things out.

GL and have fun

Northern Star
 

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i play roulette sometimes and i pick a crowded table. i find someone at the table that looks desperate and playing the even money bets and i bet opposite of them. usually keeps me at least even for the night. good luck
 

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Basic strategy is very easy to learn. Once you get that down, you don't really have to count cards but alert players will pay attention and have a feel for when the deck is rich in face cards. Lots of players pay attention to how many aces are still in the deck but actually the 5's are a more important card than the ace. You want the 5's out of the deck. The Ace/5 system is a great tool to use. It's a Math game and very easy to keep track of. Playing basic strategy plus this Ace/5 will give you a decent chance to walk away with a smile on your face. I had a very easy way of remembering how to keep track of the aces and 5's. I called it baseball ... my own name for it. Every time a Ace came out I would call it a strike as it was bad news for us players. Whenever a 5 would appear, I would call it a ball as this was good news for us players. Whenever the count got highly favorable like in baseball, up your wager. Simple and it's not about luck ... It's all about Math.
 

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When he tells you play "BS", don't just "play it" play it PERFECTLY, this means studying untill you know it like you know your SSN! NEVER take insurance. And finding a table where the house S on soft 17 will be hard, but well worth it. Use MM and don't vary. BOL to you.

Insurance is OK....if you're counting.
 

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here is a simple system that you can do mindlessly and drink and enjoy. Don't plan on winning much or losing much. With this you system if you want to call it here is what I do.

First you look for some sort of streak, 5 odd in a row, or 6 black in a row. I understand the roulette wheel has no memory and all the math. It's just the way I play it.

Start with a goal per small session. Lets say its three units. so you write down 1 1 1. If there have been 6 black in a row I would wager 2 units on red. The way you determine your wager amount is the outside two numbers in the 1 1 1. Lets assume you lose. your series of numbers is now 1 1 1 2. So your next bet is 1+2 the two outside numbers. Lets assume you lose again. the series is now 1 1 1 2 3. Your next wager is 4 units (1 +3). You win that wager you now cross off the 1 at one end and the 3 at the other end. and your series looks like 1 1 2. Next wager is 1+2 or 3 units. At this point in time I would look at what hasn't come in for awhile red, black, odd, even, high or low numbers and go with that. Lets say you lose. series now looks like 1123. Win the next 4 unit series (1+3). cross out the 1 and 3. Next wager 3 units. lets say you win. Your small series is closed out and you won three units.

so you went L,L,W,L,W,W actually you went 3-3 on your bets which is about what you would expect by betting redo or black for 6 wagers. But because you varied your bet amounts you showed a profit of 3 units. This type of wagering works best for what I would call choppy results where things should be around 50%. Long losing streaks will increase the units bet. Thats why I take something like 6 blacks in a row and bet red. The odds of 15 blacks in a row are pretty low.

You can play around with this before you go just flip a coin and see if you are comfortable with it. It is simple. You will also see you can go like 4-5 and show a profit...where you actually had more losing bets than winning bets but the variation in size closed things out.

GL and have fun

Northern Star


what about doubling down going opposite of 6 in a row?
 

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what about doubling down going opposite of 6 in a row?


No strategy works for roulette. NONE.

Now if you want to think there is a strategy, go ahead and try to convince yourself that there is one.

Learn the strategy for blackjack if you want to win ... now if you're too lazy to do that (which is not a bad thing), just relax, play the penny-ante type of games and enjoy your stay.
 

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just get a basic strategy card for BJ, put it right on the table, and follow it exactly, you'll at least only have a small house edge against you, this way.

If you enjoy the game, then study it, and learn to count cards.

Roulette is a sucker game.
 

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I haven't played regularly since I lived in Vegas 1989-1995. It was good then. Conditions have changed. I only play like once a year, when I go to Vegas, now. I don't even go to the local casinos ( Foxwoods,Moheghan Sun) to play, minimums are too high here, for me to achieve a sufficient variation in bets. I'd need like 10k in cash to play at $25 minimums. You have to bet more ( a lot more), when the count is good.
 
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Let me say this as clearly as I can.

No system at blackjack or roulette is going to change the house edge
one iota. So all the stupid ideas about systems, and betting
strategies will get you absolutely nowhere.

The best advice was to learn basic strategy blackjack. If you master
that, move on to counting cards at blackjack - it really isn't nearly as
hard as it sounds. You're not keeping track of every card, but
keeping a running ratio of high cards to low cards.

Also, don't play any blackjack game that pays 5/4 on blackjack, it's
a rip-off.
 

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I haven't played regularly since I lived in Vegas 1989-1995. It was good then. Conditions have changed. I only play like once a year, when I go to Vegas, now. I don't even go to the local casinos ( Foxwoods,Moheghan Sun) to play, minimums are too high here, for me to achieve a sufficient variation in bets. I'd need like 10k in cash to play at $25 minimums. You have to bet more ( a lot more), when the count is good.

how long did it take you to pick up counting? i've seen "21", does that shit happen?! i've not been to vegas for gambling yet, just turning 20 next month...i'm itching. been to vegas a few times, but i'm itching for the gambling portion.
 

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It doesn't take very long to learn a simple plus/minus counting system.

Simple version:

Aces and tens count as -1
2-6 count as +1
7-9 are zero

Bet more when the count is positive, less when negative.

It's harder to pull of these days.

Start with single deck games, if possible...easier to learn, and you get a new shuffle fast, if you lose count.

Buy one of the books about it.
 

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