Games are fixed.

[Serbone]

Some vivid imaginations here, literally making things up. When was an NFL game proven to be fixed? Tell me.
Sure, some games are fixed, maybe the NFL wants certain teams in or out of the playoffs, refs thru intermediary are told to make sure a particular team wins. Or a few rogue refs fix it to make a killing (they need the money). Or a low paid CB or QB decides to pick up some money. Hard to place a large wager these days and go undetected. Refs brother places a $50,000 bet, ya think somebody notices?
But there is no massive conspiracy to help the Las Vegas books make money.
Las Vegas makes money because so many bettors like the home favorite and the visiting dog covers. LV sets other traps, too, and the public loses. Sure, the sharps do better than the public with their connections and expertise but they lose games, a lot, too.
Going for two in a new, complicated, controversial analytic, and these decisions are not make for the sake of point spreads or -- hilarious to think -- teasers. HC's make bad decisions on it, and sometimes when down a lot just go for two because, "might as well".
What, you think Vegas contacts the HC with a minute to go in the game and tells him to go for two and make sure the players botch it?

 

[cigar]

There's a whole additional class called contrarian not just sharp and square. Contrarians have heavier bets than squares. They know it. Sharps and squares had gmen. If the rule that you follow leads to the wrong side of rhe rig then the rule is of no use.

 

[cigar]

The bookmaker leaving a splits sheet for me is like wile e coyote setting out seed for the road runner

 

[Rounding]

There are a lot of examples that sporting events could have been fixed. In the 2016 NBA Finals the Warriors were up 3-1 in the series vs Cleveland and Draymond Green got suspended for that fight with LeBron James. Then, in game 6 Steph Curry fouled out. Cleveland won the series. Something fishy was definitely going on. The ending felt a little too good to be true. As a result LeBron James was able to bring a title home for Cleveland.

When you look at sports and see the criminals who are allowed to keep playing and the use of performance enhancing drugs, the integrity of these leagues can be questioned.

I remember reading that Spanish officials busted a ring that conspired to fix tennis matches which involved 30 pro players.

Soccer has also had scandals both in World Cup and in the overseas professional leagues.

I think the easiest way to fix games is by the referees. They can be paid off. Organized crime has done that in the past. In 2007 Tim Donaghy pleaded guilty to betting on games he called and influenced the outcomes. He also claimed that the league lets its officials know how games should be called like blowing a whistle more often on these plays or swallowing the whistle when it comes to a certain star player.

I remember in the NFL in that playoff game there was a blown pass interference call between the Rams and Saints that helped send the Rams to the Super Bowl.

Players could also be in on the fix by point shaving. Many years ago in college basketball there was a big scandal at the University of Kentucky and at other college programs. I am sure stuff like this still goes on now.

Of all the sports I think boxing is the most prone to corruption. I am sure mixed martial arts is corrupt as well. Conor McGregor and Ronda Rousey have been suspected of this.

How about horse racing? Jockeys get bribed and drugs are given to the horses.

Every sport you love could be fixed lol

 

[exploited17]

Individual sports are the easiest to fix. After that college. The money means more to both refs and players
Professional games are tough to fix

But the example of the 2106 NBA finals being fixed as an example of "could" have been fixed is pretty silly
Anything questionable being labeled as a possible fix includes insane number of games. What was mentioned by the above post is not that fishy
McGregor and Rousy have been suspected of "this" lol
What is "this" exactly?

 

[Serbone]

I lost money on that often often often mentioned Rams/Saints playoff thriller, the famous "non" pass interference call... it was not reviewable, correct?

 

[Rounding]

Serbone, at that time it was not reviewable. The NFL changed its replay rules after the Saints/Rams fiasco.

 

[Serbone]

Serbone, at that time it was not reviewable. The NFL changed its replay rules after the Saints/Rams fiasco.

Yes, that is my point.
Ref was looking right at it... very suspicious but refs blow calls in real time full speed. Choke. His eyes may be looking at the wrong spot, it happens, but I agree it was blatantly wrong.

 

[cigar]

Some vivid imaginations here, literally making things up. When was an NFL game proven to be fixed? Tell me.
Sure, some games are fixed, maybe the NFL wants certain teams in or out of the playoffs, refs thru intermediary are told to make sure a particular team wins. Or a few rogue refs fix it to make a killing (they need the money). Or a low paid CB or QB decides to pick up some money. Hard to place a large wager these days and go undetected. Refs brother places a $50,000 bet, ya think somebody notices?
But there is no massive conspiracy to help the Las Vegas books make money.
Las Vegas makes money because so many bettors like the home favorite and the visiting dog covers. LV sets other traps, too, and the public loses. Sure, the sharps do better than the public with their connections and expertise but they lose games, a lot, too.
Going for two in a new, complicated, controversial analytic, and these decisions are not make for the sake of point spreads or -- hilarious to think -- teasers. HC's make bad decisions on it, and sometimes when down a lot just go for two because, "might as well".
What, you think Vegas contacts the HC with a minute to go in the game and tells him to go for two and make sure the players botch it?

That boy is about as sharp as a Bowlin ball

 

[Avocado33]

Down 14 going for 2 is fine. Down 11 going for 2 to cut it to 9 is bad math.

The math is actually pretty similar

You miss the 2, you still are down 11 and could tie with a TD/2 plus a field goal even if you miss it

It's a longer shot to score exactly 17 points then have to score again to win the game in overtime. Might as well try to score 18 in regulation

We are talking long odds to win in any case when teams are in these circumstances.

 

[rwjr]

The thing that cracks me up is week after week you see how blatantly the refs miss calls or make calls for and against certain teams in certain games. At this point if you pay attention, it is not the officials having a bad game or just missing a call, etc. It is the NFL fixing games for who the NFL needs/wants to win.

People just say the officials are incompetent or having a bad game, etc.
Am sorry I think the NFL would be doing something about it if they were not complicit in it.
These officials get paid a good amount of money to be at the top of their game and they are graded on
their performance, if the NFL did not like what they were calling or doing during the games
there would be some type of punishment. By the NFL not doing anything, for the most part says
it approves. It approves more than likely because it has told the officials what they want.

Let's not forget they all have earpieces on now and can be talked to by the league office during the game.

On top of if you watch the video and see what McLaurin says after the game about the call and incident
it tells you what went on. He asked if he was good, official told him to move up, he moved up, asked again if he was good, official said he was good, then throws the flag.
You can see this on the video, so he is not lying.

NFL charter is for an entertainment entity, not sports league. Why do you think that is?
So they can't be found guilty of breaking any laws for determining outcomes of their events.
If they were a sports entity they would be breaking the law.

NFL 100% coerced

Truth ? ^^^^^^^

 

[rwjr]

Very good point lol. Its an addiction so we bet on fixed sports and then complain after we lose ? I'm guilty of that too.

I guess u just gotta get lucky & hope the REFS are helping your team ?

 

[einsatzgruppenfuhrer]

Its all fake shit. Get over it. The games are for entertainment. If you really believe in your mind that those NEP players would start to lateral the ball around like jerk-offs when the game is tied and they secured OT.........you need to go see a doctor or go get evaluated for mental retardation. You would be deemed a mental retard by Himmler and/or gullible beyond any imagination and you would be put into a camp for that alone.

Not in a million years would a Belichick-coached team have scripted that shit up when they are in the playoff race. You really need to go see a doctor. Now, I'm not saying don't still enjoy it and watch it, etc. But go into it like you are being entertained and let it end there.

I'm on my way out of all these "GAMES" for good. Because, after all, they are only GAMES. So is Monopoly and Risk......pal.

If they were playing for real, then they wouldn't be making 300 million bucks per contract. Simple. Half these guys career would be over in 3-4 years tops in a contact sport.

 

[einsatzgruppenfuhrer]

Individual sports are the easiest to fix. After that college. The money means more to both refs and players
Professional games are tough to fix

But the example of the 2106 NBA finals being fixed as an example of "could" have been fixed is pretty silly
Anything questionable being labeled as a possible fix includes insane number of games. What was mentioned by the above post is not that fishy
McGregor and Rousy have been suspected of "this" lol
What is "this" exactly?

The players sign a 300 million dollar contract to take orders and follow a script. The NFL is stated as an "Entertainment" entity. Hey pal, so is the WWF. Do you still believe elections and politicians are real and care about you too? Please tell me, please, you aren't one of these!

 

[brendanjack]

the shit ain’t fixed . Tell you what do in game betting and cash out while your ahead problem solved . Take the little victories

 

[Acebb]

Not in a million years would a Belichick-coached team have scripted that shit up when they are in the playoff race. You really need to go see a doctor.

It wasn't scripted, that is pretty clear.

 

[Acebb]

If you actually believe NFL games are fixed, you will frankly believe anything.

If you sincerely believe "Vegas" has the power to fix an NFL game - you should write "Stuck on Stupid" on your forehead.

 

[MLB]

TikTok - Make Your Day

 

[MLB]

Listen and have an open mind about the possibilities that actually exist in the REAL world!

 

[exploited17]

The players sign a 300 million dollar contract to take orders and follow a script. The NFL is stated as an "Entertainment" entity. Hey pal, so is the WWF. Do you still believe elections and politicians are real and care about you too? Please tell me, please, you aren't one of these!

So, players in college might suck but are given the lead actor role and make millions
And the ones that suck instead of playing up to their abiity they are assigned a role to make much less lol
Yeah, you are stupid
Stop trting to act smarter than everyone
This isn't politics
No comparison to the shady shit that happens