GAMBLER'S AVENUE UPDATE

[nets2k2]

posted November 03, 2003 04:09 PM
a danish site on from a player who has been ripped off

http://www.casinopenge.dk/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=16804&Forum=All_Forums&Words=Vegas%20Casino&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=16804&Search=true#Post16804

In english it basically says that he got 800.00 stolen by VCO because he was danish.

 

[nets2k2]

areeff
Certifiably Crazy
posted November 03, 2003 04:11 PM
another player's post about being stiffed!

Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'George'
George: Welcome, how may I help you?
you: Where are my winnings regarding account: .........
George: Please give me a moment to review your account.
George: Which casino do you have an account in?
you: Twin Aces
George: OK, you are from Denmark
you: yes
George: I will have to terminate this chat now
George: bye
Chat session has been terminated by the site operator.
Posts: 516 | Registered: November 12, 2002



areeff
Certifiably Crazy
posted November 03, 2003 04:14 PM
more posts

http://www.casinopenge.dk/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB2&Number=3688&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

Dear Customer,

We thank you for your patience while we have assessed the situation. As you probably already know, the entire Country of Denmark has been banned permanently, by our casino. As such, this is how we intend to proceed. All money in your casino balance that can be sent back to your credit card will be. We can only credit up to the amount that you have deposited on your credit card and are unable to credit back certain MasterCard transactions. Any winnings will remain in your account for six months. At the end of six months, we will review all the accounts and most likely your winnings will be sent to you. There are several factors that we will consider when the accounts are reviewed in six months. We thank you for your understanding in this matter.

We will be contacting customers one by one to clarify the status of their accounts. Any future attempts to contact us will go unanswered.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Best Regards,

best regards-my ass

play hard


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in english it basically says


At the end of six months, we will review all the accounts and most likely your winnings will be sent to you.
after the 6 months they never paid up
not everyone got their deposit either

 

[nets2k2]

areeff
Certifiably Crazy
posted November 03, 2003 04:57 PM
Here is another thread where Marty's webmaster goes off on 2 casino player advocates..

and ends up looking like an idiot

Jyde and Bet2Gamble are player advocates.

felo is obviously Marty's webmaster(possibly(but definitely not certainly) marty himself) and shill on message boards

http://www.winneronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004515-2.html

 

[Ladeda]

Angelle, with all due respect. Just a few days ago everyone was talking about what a great guy Fred from Gamblers Avenue was. Including Shrink, moderators, and I'm sure some respected books too.

Aside from Jensens group stealing large amount from the Danes. They are well known for being slow payers in the casino world. Althoug htey do usually pay are lots of stalling and sometimes lies. Been through it myself with them.

Do you have any idea of their repuatation in the casino world? No offense, but cascade, shrink etc probably have no clue how he runs his casinos. They know sportsbooks and Lenny probably hangs with the guy at the beach or something. Hes probably a great guy to hang with , as are many sahdy characters.

95% of the casinos don't like Danish players because of they bonus hunting. The casinos simply paid and raised the terms for promos for Danes or excluded them altoghether. Jensens group decided to just steal the money. The Danes may not be great customers, but they did nothing wrong. I'm sure there are a few that were using multi ID's etc, but the large majority were legit.

IT'S NOT RIGHT TO STEAL, PERIOD!

 

[nets2k2]

This was sent shortly after locking the accounts:

Dear Customer,

We thank you for your patience while we have assessed the situation. As you probably already know, the entire Country of Denmark has been banned permanently, by our casino. As such, this is how we intend to proceed. We will credit all money in your casino balance that can be sent back to your credit card.

In your case, the $100,00 should hit your account within the next 10 business days. We can only credit up to the amount that you have deposited on your credit card and are unable to credit back certain MasterCard transactions.

Your winnings of $70,00 will remain in your account for a period of no less than six months. At the end of six months, we will review all the accounts and most likely your winnings will be sent to you. There are several factors that we will consider when the accounts are reviewed in six months. We thank you for your understanding in this matter.

We will be contacting customers one by one to clarify the status of their accounts. Any future attempts to contact us will go unanswered.

Thank you for your cooperation.
If there is any further question or comments, do not hesitate in contact us.

Best Regards,

Jordao Wolf
Customer Support Representative
Twin Aces Casino

When 6 months had passed players contacted them for an update on their winnings:

Dear Customer:
We have banned all players from Denmark because we found malicious gaming in most of the accounts. We are on the process to verify the games on each account, the documents as well as many other important factors, such as gaming location, IP's etc. This process is lengthy and is required for us to decide a procedure. As your can read in our previous mail, the winnings will remain on the account for a period no less than 6 months and that is the reason for it. Unfortunately, we have been unable to reach to a conclusion yet. We will notify you of any change or resolution as soon as we do. Thank you for understanding!

David Jones
Customer Service Representative
Twin Aces Casino

I wonder what "malicious gaming" is. Is that like "not losing"?

Needless to say they never got through the accounts, they never verified shit and NO ONE was ever contacted by the casino or paid their winnings - some are still "waiting" for their deposit.


Here's a classic - not related to Danish players - but an excuse used right after September 11th. Players had already been waiting for weeks (the casino was waiting for funds) and then right out of the blue came the perfect excuse for further delays:

Dear Sir,

Thanks for contacting us again, it´s a pleasure to be of assistance. Regarding your previous messages, please note that you are completely right, you have an overnight still pending.

Unfortunately, we are not able to process any withdrawal at this moment, because of the tragedy experienced in New York last Sept/11/01 morning. The funds we use for payouts are on hold by our bank in New York.

Please allow us until the end of this week in order to get this issue solved.

We will inform you about the status of your withdrawal as soon as possible.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

If there is any further question or comments, do not hesitate to contact us again.

Best Regards,

George Finley
Customer Service Supervisor
Las Vegas USA Casino

 

[nets2k2]

Hey you see that last one Angelle. Thats your buddy MARTY JENSEN HIMSELF! And he uses the 9/11 trajedy as more excuses on slow payments and no pays. You know him real well.

So Angelle, it is sad to see you can be BOUGHT. You should be real proud of yourself.

So Angelle are you anything like Marty? Did you use the 9/11 tragedy as an excuse for anything in your life? Not turning in your homework to your instructor or missing an exam? He is a great guy right? And one of very few you actually trust.

 

[nets2k2]

Angelle I am waiting for your replys...

And if you dont mind maybe you can answer my question last night that you ignored.


nets2k2
Certifiably Crazy
posted November 03, 2003 11:02 PM
quote:
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Originally posted by Angelle:
Why I read all the ghost post I don't know..
but now that I am finished I would like to say congrats to Ken and welcome to the new owners.
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Angelle if you are going to make a comment like that at leasts post who you are referring to. Also what is the reason that makes you think that?

If I show up at the next Rx Party and you see me in person and I still state the same thing I am now, will I still be a ghost poster to you?

 

[Angelle]

OK-
Let me read then post read then post..

"For that I was thankful. I give credit where credit is due."

thank you that is very nice of you..

"No Angelle thats were you are wrong. If what I post doesnt compliment the Rx I am a basher. If I said Shrink is great and Angelle is so beautiful I am a good poster. You guys dont like the truth when it affects you."

No that is where you you are wrong. I don't expect every post to be a compliment. Nor do I want to hear a bunch of you are greats and you are beautiful bullshit. That is not what makes a good poster. If you feel that is the case then I aplogize. But a good poster contributes to the forum in a manner which is benifital to the community. I don't think you do that, at least not anymore. It is one thing to help other posters, but lately you have taken every chance you can to bash the site. If you want to be a "good" poster, why not try to contribute in a postive manner. If you aren't happy here then find somewhere you are. Lately with you it seems as if it isn't one thing it is another. We jsut can't make you happy no matter what we do. I guess you would prefer if we didn't exsits. Then perhaps next time you have a situation not getting paid you can try to find someone that will help you. For you to say we don't like the truth when it affects us is total bullshit. I guess we never help the players are posters here. At least that is what you seem to think. I guess you don't like the truth unless you can twist it and turn it to fit your needs.

OK back to reading-

 

[Ladeda]

I'd like to state that I love the Prescription and don't want to see it harmed.

When someone broke the Jensen news to me over AIM I cringed. Couldn't believe that news.

Fact is that Shrink sold the site to a guy with a lot of skeletons in his closet. Actually forget the closet, it is all public knowledge at casino forums just a respected in the casino world as RX and MW are on the sportsbooks side.

Some of the moderators and board veterens are being unfair because only casino players were stolen from by this guy. Most of them don't post here. So if they come to post they will just be labelled at 'ghosts" So unless a board veteren posts they got ripped noone will believe it, but most here don't play casinos so that won't happen.

 

[nets2k2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Angelle:
OK-
Let me read then post read then post..

"For that I was thankful. I give credit where credit is due."

thank you that is very nice of you..

"No Angelle thats were you are wrong. If what I post doesnt compliment the Rx I am a basher. If I said Shrink is great and Angelle is so beautiful I am a good poster. You guys dont like the truth when it affects you."

No that is where you you are wrong. I don't expect every post to be a compliment. Nor do I want to hear a bunch of you are greats and you are beautiful bullshit. That is not what makes a good poster. If you feel that is the case then I aplogize. But a good poster contributes to the forum in a manner which is benifital to the community. I don't think you do that, at least not anymore. It is one thing to help other posters, but lately you have taken every chance you can to bash the site. If you want to be a "good" poster, why not try to contribute in a postive manner. If you aren't happy here then find somewhere you are. Lately with you it seems as if it isn't one thing it is another. We jsut can't make you happy no matter what we do. I guess you would prefer if we didn't exsits. Then perhaps next time you have a situation not getting paid you can try to find someone that will help you. For you to say we don't like the truth when it affects us is total bullshit. I guess we never help the players are posters here. At least that is what you seem to think. I guess you don't like the truth unless you can twist it and turn it to fit your needs.

OK back to reading-<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Wrong Angelle. I have posted POSITIVE things about Bluegrass. Never was called a shill or a ghost then. And I love the TRUTH. Because the truth always prevails. Please bring Marty here. He wont show his face on the casino boards to address the people he stole from. Maybe he will do it here?

 

[nets2k2]

Oh and Angelle, dont forget to read all the posts that show that Marty is a theif. But let me guess, all those people are scammers right? They all have agendas and are against the Rx and love to bash the Rx when they dont even know what the hell the Rx is.

 

[Angelle]

since you posted 30 posts since my last one..

I will answer this last one first since it seems to be a burning question for you..

No I did not read it before..
I am sorry.

"Angelle if you are going to make a comment like that at leasts post who you are referring to. Also what is the reason that makes you think that?

If I show up at the next Rx Party and you see me in person and I still state the same thing I am now, will I still be a ghost poster to you?"

I was not refering to you as a ghost poster if that is what you are thinking.. So no, no need to show up at the party. I believe you are not a ghost.. that doesn't mean I don't think you have an agenda.

I remember a while back when you emailed me..
I didn't think you were a ghost then, and don't think you are now.

A little sensitive are you?

 

[Angelle]

if you want me to address everything you are going to have to slow down on the posts for a second..

I know you want the shirt and all but chill I am reading it all..

I am glad you like bluegrass so do I ..
And as far as the other posts of proof.. I have read them, but for you I will reread them

 

[nets2k2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Angelle:
since you posted 30 posts since my last one..

I will answer this last one first since it seems to be a burning question for you..

No I did not read it before..
I am sorry.

"Angelle if you are going to make a comment like that at leasts post who you are referring to. Also what is the reason that makes you think that?

If I show up at the next Rx Party and you see me in person and I still state the same thing I am now, will I still be a ghost poster to you?"

I was not refering to you as a ghost poster if that is what you are thinking.. So no, no need to show up at the party. I believe you are not a ghost.. that doesn't mean I don't think you have an agenda.

I remember a while back when you emailed me..
I didn't think you were a ghost then, and don't think you are now.

A little sensitive are you?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not sensitive at all. Just wanted to show how you only call people who disagree with the Rx or in your words "bash the rx" are shills and ghosts.

Feel free to donate my free shirt to a charity. Make sure you do it, or else Marty Jensen will sell it for a few bucks and pretend he really donated it.

 

[Angelle]

ok back to the first response by you-

"There has been posted NUMEROUS PROOF that Marty Jensen has stolen money from players. You might remember seeing it. It is in the thread that was locked. No reason from you guys yet why it was locked either. So Angelle go read that thread like I told Dante to and all the proof is there for you to see. Dante doesnt care because he is waiting to see it with his own eyes. So Angelle if I killed your brother but you didnt see it happen, then it never really happened right? I mean Dante and the rest of your gang would have to see me do it in order for it to be true right? Yea..."

I read your proof..
but there are 2 sides to ever story

as far as the need to see it to believe it..
did I say that..
I don't think so..

 

[Angelle]

"I am glad you know this guy very well. I am sure you know your Father very well also. But I am sure if he cheated on your mother you would never know about it. So just because you have been out to dinner with this guy, or if he bought you a nice car, or if he is paying for your education doesnt mean shit."

yes I do know my father very well thanks..
My family is very close... and the truth is if he ever cheated yes I would know about it..
thanks for the concern, but my family is fine

 

[nets2k2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Angelle:
ok back to the first response by you-

"There has been posted NUMEROUS PROOF that Marty Jensen has stolen money from players. You might remember seeing it. It is in the thread that was locked. No reason from you guys yet why it was locked either. So Angelle go read that thread like I told Dante to and all the proof is there for you to see. Dante doesnt care because he is waiting to see it with his own eyes. So Angelle if I killed your brother but you didnt see it happen, then it never really happened right? I mean Dante and the rest of your gang would have to see me do it in order for it to be true right? Yea..."

I read your proof..
but there are 2 sides to ever story

as far as the need to see it to believe it..
did I say that..
I don't think so..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your right there are 2 sides to every story.
Here it is.

Player deposits $100 dollars. Cashes out $500

Casino Owner Marty Jensen says you are a fraud. In 6months from now I will see if we should pay you or not. But trust me we will pay you.

6months later no money. 1year later no money.

Next Angelle. Once again I dont know why you WATCHDOGS of SPORTBOOKS wont go read all the gambling forums out there and talk to the WATCHDOGS of CASINOS and listen to what they have to say. One even posted in that thread. But let me guess again. They all have agdendas against the Rx even though this happened when you were still trying to kiss ass to get a job here.

 

[nets2k2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Angelle:
"I am glad you know this guy very well. I am sure you know your Father very well also. But I am sure if he cheated on your mother you would never know about it. So just because you have been out to dinner with this guy, or if he bought you a nice car, or if he is paying for your education doesnt mean shit."

yes I do know my father very well thanks..
My family is very close... and the truth is if he ever cheated yes I would know about it..
thanks for the concern, but my family is fine<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep I am sure your Father would rush out to tell you and your mother he has been cheating on her. Sorry but you dont know men and you dont know your Father.

 

[THE SHRINK]

nets,

Unlike you, Angelle's Father has some class...

I happen to know Angelle's Father too, so shut the F U CK up!

THE SHRINK

 

[nets2k2]

Thats great shrink. Just like you know Marty Jensen right?

Know him sooo much that you didnt know he wrote books on how to beat casinos that areef posted here?? Know him so much that you didnt know Marten Jensen and Marty Jensen is the same person????????