nets2K2:
Man, this is a hard jab to take for everyone involved with this industry. Another book advertising not in one, but in many forums seems to be doomed.
That affects us all because the core of the matter here is the TRUST. I agree with you here, the TRUST of the player on the offshore books has been shattered again.
But let's stop bashing for one second and with a straight face tell me you didn't smell anything wrong in a book that was fairly new, offering huge bonuses. Let's accept what and who we are. A gambler is by nature a risk taker; when you sign up with a book that hasn't been around long enough to have weathered the ups and downs of this ever-fluctuating industry, you're taking a RISK. You're gambling in every possible aspect.
We're somewhat educated gamblers here, we all know what's going on. And I can assure you that those players that decided to send money to GA, had second thoughts right before clicking on that NT "send-out" button.
I feel it for the players with balances there. I feel it for Mike and Freddy, who were trying to runa legitimate business.
Now to the matter at hand, who's to blame?
Everyfvckingbody... the players, the book, but the advertisers? Somehow, the RX guys should be responsible for whom they decide to tout, but if they ask for proves of financial stability and they get it, what can they do?
I have said it before, the ultimate resource of a public forum is its posters. And there were voices of reason here.
Now about Dante... I think you're taking it out on the wrong guy. If I ever met a guy that is plain and simple straight, that's Dante. The guy might have recommended players to go to GA, but if you read his posts, you will see his point of view is one of a player -and one that is as square as a box-, a player that was trying to help others from his mod position.
I don't think it's cool you insult the man or the way he chooses to earn a living. The man is merely moderating, a job that's hard enough to do with all the fvcknuts in this forum.
You got every right to be irated, but not at Dante. The man is one more poster and one that might end up losing money in this situation.
Dante, stay put kid. You're a good guy and we ALL know that.
Man, this is a hard jab to take for everyone involved with this industry. Another book advertising not in one, but in many forums seems to be doomed.
That affects us all because the core of the matter here is the TRUST. I agree with you here, the TRUST of the player on the offshore books has been shattered again.
But let's stop bashing for one second and with a straight face tell me you didn't smell anything wrong in a book that was fairly new, offering huge bonuses. Let's accept what and who we are. A gambler is by nature a risk taker; when you sign up with a book that hasn't been around long enough to have weathered the ups and downs of this ever-fluctuating industry, you're taking a RISK. You're gambling in every possible aspect.
We're somewhat educated gamblers here, we all know what's going on. And I can assure you that those players that decided to send money to GA, had second thoughts right before clicking on that NT "send-out" button.
I feel it for the players with balances there. I feel it for Mike and Freddy, who were trying to runa legitimate business.
Now to the matter at hand, who's to blame?
Everyfvckingbody... the players, the book, but the advertisers? Somehow, the RX guys should be responsible for whom they decide to tout, but if they ask for proves of financial stability and they get it, what can they do?
I have said it before, the ultimate resource of a public forum is its posters. And there were voices of reason here.
Now about Dante... I think you're taking it out on the wrong guy. If I ever met a guy that is plain and simple straight, that's Dante. The guy might have recommended players to go to GA, but if you read his posts, you will see his point of view is one of a player -and one that is as square as a box-, a player that was trying to help others from his mod position.
I don't think it's cool you insult the man or the way he chooses to earn a living. The man is merely moderating, a job that's hard enough to do with all the fvcknuts in this forum.
You got every right to be irated, but not at Dante. The man is one more poster and one that might end up losing money in this situation.
Dante, stay put kid. You're a good guy and we ALL know that.
Walkoflife,
First of all sorry for losing my cool. But I cant stand thieves. About GA you are right, we are all responsible. But the latter half of this thread was about the NEW OWNER of the RX, Marty Jensen. He is a thief. He stole money from casino players. His casinos are still open. He just didnt fold shop like GA did, but he just outright didnt pay people their winnings or give them their post up back. I dont know if you read the thread or not, but this is what I was arguing about. Please read it as all the proof is there, yet Dante wont accept it.
http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=988094022&m=81110896
First of all sorry for losing my cool. But I cant stand thieves. About GA you are right, we are all responsible. But the latter half of this thread was about the NEW OWNER of the RX, Marty Jensen. He is a thief. He stole money from casino players. His casinos are still open. He just didnt fold shop like GA did, but he just outright didnt pay people their winnings or give them their post up back. I dont know if you read the thread or not, but this is what I was arguing about. Please read it as all the proof is there, yet Dante wont accept it.
http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=988094022&m=81110896
nets2k2:
Wow man, that's a long ass thread. Very intriguing to say the least. I think you got a very good point and I for once would like to see the new owner of the RX address all these issues. It would only be a WISE business decision.
What I would recommend you to do is to keep apples with apples and pears with pears. The GA situation is one thing and you agree with me that we all should eat our share of responsibility. But this other issue about the rumors of Marty Jensen calls for a thread of its own.
And if the RX values the good reputation they have, they WILL address the issues in a specific and clear manner.
As for Dante, take it easy on the man. He's doing what he thinks is the right thing to do. If time proves him wrong, at least he will have done what he thinks is best for the forum. I guess my whole point is that Dante is a good guy. I'm sure he will not stand in the way of the truth coming out.
It'd be good if we stay cool. Remember, in times of turmoil, sharp folks will keep a distance. See the whole picture, some call it.
Wow man, that's a long ass thread. Very intriguing to say the least. I think you got a very good point and I for once would like to see the new owner of the RX address all these issues. It would only be a WISE business decision.
What I would recommend you to do is to keep apples with apples and pears with pears. The GA situation is one thing and you agree with me that we all should eat our share of responsibility. But this other issue about the rumors of Marty Jensen calls for a thread of its own.
And if the RX values the good reputation they have, they WILL address the issues in a specific and clear manner.
As for Dante, take it easy on the man. He's doing what he thinks is the right thing to do. If time proves him wrong, at least he will have done what he thinks is best for the forum. I guess my whole point is that Dante is a good guy. I'm sure he will not stand in the way of the truth coming out.
It'd be good if we stay cool. Remember, in times of turmoil, sharp folks will keep a distance. See the whole picture, some call it.
MacWack:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The only reason I have an account at Gambler's Avenue is becasue I got stiffed at BetFlamingo. GA offered me a bailout at 10x the rollover. I just f*cking rolled it(FINALLY) last week and now they are going under???<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Brother I hate to say it, but do you see a pattern here?
I hate it that this happening to you, bro. Maybe next time you will stick to bigger names in the industry.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The only reason I have an account at Gambler's Avenue is becasue I got stiffed at BetFlamingo. GA offered me a bailout at 10x the rollover. I just f*cking rolled it(FINALLY) last week and now they are going under???<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Brother I hate to say it, but do you see a pattern here?
I hate it that this happening to you, bro. Maybe next time you will stick to bigger names in the industry.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Walk of Life:
nets2k2:
Wow man, that's a long ass thread. Very intriguing to say the least. I think you got a very good point and I for once would like to see the new owner of the RX address all these issues. It would only be a WISE business decision.
What I would recommend you to do is to keep apples with apples and pears with pears. The GA situation is one thing and you agree with me that we all should eat our share of responsibility. But this other issue about the rumors of Marty Jensen calls for a thread of its own.
And if the RX values the good reputation they have, they WILL address the issues in a specific and clear manner.
As for Dante, take it easy on the man. He's doing what he thinks is the right thing to do. If time proves him wrong, at least he will have done what he thinks is best for the forum. I guess my whole point is that Dante is a good guy. I'm sure he will not stand in the way of the truth coming out.
It'd be good if we stay cool. Remember, in times of turmoil, sharp folks will keep a distance. See the whole picture, some call it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Walk, I would have kept it in that thread, but that thread was locked. Cant post the truth there, so I posted it here.
nets2k2:
Wow man, that's a long ass thread. Very intriguing to say the least. I think you got a very good point and I for once would like to see the new owner of the RX address all these issues. It would only be a WISE business decision.
What I would recommend you to do is to keep apples with apples and pears with pears. The GA situation is one thing and you agree with me that we all should eat our share of responsibility. But this other issue about the rumors of Marty Jensen calls for a thread of its own.
And if the RX values the good reputation they have, they WILL address the issues in a specific and clear manner.
As for Dante, take it easy on the man. He's doing what he thinks is the right thing to do. If time proves him wrong, at least he will have done what he thinks is best for the forum. I guess my whole point is that Dante is a good guy. I'm sure he will not stand in the way of the truth coming out.
It'd be good if we stay cool. Remember, in times of turmoil, sharp folks will keep a distance. See the whole picture, some call it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Walk, I would have kept it in that thread, but that thread was locked. Cant post the truth there, so I posted it here.
Dante,
I've been reading these boards for a long time. You've always seemed like a good guy and solid moderator. However, I have followed casino message boards for even longer.
It is well documented that the MainStreet Vegas group of casinos ran by Jensen have stolen money from hundreds if notthousands of players. The large majority from Denmark. Not only that but they are notorious slow payers, sometimes taking months to pay winnings to regular (non-danish) players.
What proof do you need? This is not Nets2k opinions. These are facts. Just check the casinos message boards and portals. It is well documented. When you say you need to see it with your own eyes I don't know what you expect. Are you waiting for a videotape of Mr Jensen in his office telling his employees about the business plan to steal from customers?
Your stance on this issue is like if Aces Charlie was starting a casino and everyone at the casino forum who knows about sportsbooks claims he is a thief. But the casino board moderator doesn't care if all the sports players and portal operators know this because he didn't get stolen from.
I've been reading these boards for a long time. You've always seemed like a good guy and solid moderator. However, I have followed casino message boards for even longer.
It is well documented that the MainStreet Vegas group of casinos ran by Jensen have stolen money from hundreds if notthousands of players. The large majority from Denmark. Not only that but they are notorious slow payers, sometimes taking months to pay winnings to regular (non-danish) players.
What proof do you need? This is not Nets2k opinions. These are facts. Just check the casinos message boards and portals. It is well documented. When you say you need to see it with your own eyes I don't know what you expect. Are you waiting for a videotape of Mr Jensen in his office telling his employees about the business plan to steal from customers?
Your stance on this issue is like if Aces Charlie was starting a casino and everyone at the casino forum who knows about sportsbooks claims he is a thief. But the casino board moderator doesn't care if all the sports players and portal operators know this because he didn't get stolen from.
Wow,
It seems some things are just out of control at this point. One reason insiders don't release damaging info about books is in hopes they can recover and save everyone. My personal opinion is you have to cut your losses and not let anyone else go into the red zone. If you are taking advertisers you should put the ethics in front of the money.
I'm not gonna be one of the guys to cry that I was aware of financial problems before hand but I would not take this book on as an advertiser persobally. They spent all that money on advertising yet couldn't do any better than 30 and 40 cent lines in baseball playoffs. Didnt offer money lines on most events outside of baseball. My guess is they couldn't retain customers after the bonus was up. Even the software is terrible. I was in on the contest and called to talk about the rollover. I asked Freddy how he expected me to stay there after the rollover with 40 cent baseball MLs.
It seems some things are just out of control at this point. One reason insiders don't release damaging info about books is in hopes they can recover and save everyone. My personal opinion is you have to cut your losses and not let anyone else go into the red zone. If you are taking advertisers you should put the ethics in front of the money.
I'm not gonna be one of the guys to cry that I was aware of financial problems before hand but I would not take this book on as an advertiser persobally. They spent all that money on advertising yet couldn't do any better than 30 and 40 cent lines in baseball playoffs. Didnt offer money lines on most events outside of baseball. My guess is they couldn't retain customers after the bonus was up. Even the software is terrible. I was in on the contest and called to talk about the rollover. I asked Freddy how he expected me to stay there after the rollover with 40 cent baseball MLs.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ladeda:
Dante,
I've been reading these boards for a long time. You've always seemed like a good guy and solid moderator. However, I have followed casino message boards for even longer.
It is well documented that the MainStreet Vegas group of casinos ran by Jensen have stolen money from hundreds if notthousands of players. The large majority from Denmark. Not only that but they are notorious slow payers, sometimes taking months to pay winnings to regular (non-danish) players.
What proof do you need? This is not Nets2k opinions. These are facts. Just check the casinos message boards and portals. It is well documented. When you say you need to see it with your own eyes I don't know what you expect. Are you waiting for a videotape of Mr Jensen in his office telling his employees about the business plan to steal from customers?
Your stance on this issue is like if Aces Charlie was starting a casino and everyone at the casino forum who knows about sportsbooks claims he is a thief. But the casino board moderator doesn't care if all the sports players and portal operators know this because he didn't get stolen from.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
thanks for your view labeda...I respect your view on this
Dante,
I've been reading these boards for a long time. You've always seemed like a good guy and solid moderator. However, I have followed casino message boards for even longer.
It is well documented that the MainStreet Vegas group of casinos ran by Jensen have stolen money from hundreds if notthousands of players. The large majority from Denmark. Not only that but they are notorious slow payers, sometimes taking months to pay winnings to regular (non-danish) players.
What proof do you need? This is not Nets2k opinions. These are facts. Just check the casinos message boards and portals. It is well documented. When you say you need to see it with your own eyes I don't know what you expect. Are you waiting for a videotape of Mr Jensen in his office telling his employees about the business plan to steal from customers?
Your stance on this issue is like if Aces Charlie was starting a casino and everyone at the casino forum who knows about sportsbooks claims he is a thief. But the casino board moderator doesn't care if all the sports players and portal operators know this because he didn't get stolen from.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
thanks for your view labeda...I respect your view on this
Nets2k,
I am sorry that you feel the way you do.
I went back and read all your posts to see where you are coming from.
WOW have you come a long way from your first post.
(http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=988094022&m=8983088895)
Let me start by recapping a few of my favorite things from this first post.
“Thank you very much Shrink- I just wanted to thank the Shrink for helping me out with a book that was stalling me on a Western Union withdrawal. I emailed Shrink and he responded very quickly. Few hours later I got an email from the sportsbook to have me call them and get my controller #. I did and got paid. So I just wanted to give thanks where its due. So thank you very much Shrink for your help. I appreciate it very much that your willing to go at bat for people to get paid even when that book does not advertise on this site. That really shows a lot about a persons character. It is greatly appreciated even though sometimes we forget to give thanks where it is due”
I don’t know what happened. But the last few months you have been nothing but a RX Basher. I mean the negativity just doesn’t stop. Jumping in and out of threads spewing your hostility. I think we got your point after about the 70th post no need to keep going and going.
OK NOW THAT I GOT ALL OF THAT OUT.
Let me address the issue at hand.
First may I ask that you get off of Dante’s ass. I will use something you said- you see this is where you are being IGNORTANT again, you are so ignorant it is sad. Dante not only works harder to help the players than any other moderator, but he is also the most objective and overall fair moderator. So, I personally think you are showing you ignorance thinking that Dante doesn’t “give a shit.” If anything he is the one that cares the most.
Now let me address Marty. I happen to know the guy very well, and in my opinion he is a great guy. He is warm, warm, congenial, personable and honorable There are not many people that I trust, but I would say that Marty is one of them. While some of ya’ll might not take my word for it, I know that I am not the only one that feels this way The Shrink thinks highly of him as well as many others I know. Also, as you saw somewhere else even Lenny from Cascade vouched for Marty. I guess that makes every one of us a bad judge of character. Since, well that is what we are talking about is ones character. I find it surprising that you thought so highly of The Shrink’s character when he helped to get you paid but now that it doesn’t benefit you, you find a fault in it. Hypocrisy at its greatest.
You say that Marty stole from a WHOLE COUNTRY. Wow that is quiet an achievement to steal from a WHOLE COUNTRY. You know- I know that you are creditable and all, but I had to check on this myself. I called someone in Denmark, they were angry that I would call so early. But I asked them, have had your money stolen. They said no. I then asked if they knew a Mary Jenson, again they said NO. WOW what a shocker..
Ok Ok I will be serious again. My understanding is that Denmark in the Online Casino World is comparable to Russia in the Sportsbetting world. If that is the case I cringe at the thought of all the scams that were pulled from Denmark. You know normally I would take these this to heart and try to understand your side and work with you. But the truth is after I read all your post your credibility was lost. It was very obvious to me that you were just looking for any reason to bash the RX. As evidence by all of your posts in the last few months. What is this REALLY about? Tell us how you really feel- cause the negativity is not something new for you. It has been going on for a while now.
I know a few of ya’ll are wondering why Marty has not come on here to defend himself.
Well I think one of net2k’s posts from a while back really does a good job of explaining this. Net- do you remember this one. The one where you were “shilling” for Pino, even we you made a point to say that was not what you were doing. Let me quote here I think you did such a good job.
“I think it is really sad that this guy Pino ( in this case we will use Marty) needs to defend himself here. If I was in his shoes I would be pretty pissed off at what is going on here. I would just walk away….. But if you walk away then the users of the forum will think the book is at fault here and is dodging the questions. A forum like this can ruin a company's reputation, even if the company is not at fault. (oh this part is good I know it doesn’t apply, but it sure does make me giggle). Pino I am impressed that you have stayed this whole time to stand up for yourself. I think all the lurkers/readers of this forum like me can see who is telling the truth and who is not.
And I am sure Journeyman will call me a shill for Pino, but I do not have an account at his book or have ever played there. Plus I'm sure your buddy dell dude can let you know what type of person I really am.
Good luck to you in the future Pino (or Marty). Don't let immature posters get to you.”
I am sorry that you feel the way you do.
I went back and read all your posts to see where you are coming from.
WOW have you come a long way from your first post.
(http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=988094022&m=8983088895)
Let me start by recapping a few of my favorite things from this first post.
“Thank you very much Shrink- I just wanted to thank the Shrink for helping me out with a book that was stalling me on a Western Union withdrawal. I emailed Shrink and he responded very quickly. Few hours later I got an email from the sportsbook to have me call them and get my controller #. I did and got paid. So I just wanted to give thanks where its due. So thank you very much Shrink for your help. I appreciate it very much that your willing to go at bat for people to get paid even when that book does not advertise on this site. That really shows a lot about a persons character. It is greatly appreciated even though sometimes we forget to give thanks where it is due”
I don’t know what happened. But the last few months you have been nothing but a RX Basher. I mean the negativity just doesn’t stop. Jumping in and out of threads spewing your hostility. I think we got your point after about the 70th post no need to keep going and going.
OK NOW THAT I GOT ALL OF THAT OUT.
Let me address the issue at hand.
First may I ask that you get off of Dante’s ass. I will use something you said- you see this is where you are being IGNORTANT again, you are so ignorant it is sad. Dante not only works harder to help the players than any other moderator, but he is also the most objective and overall fair moderator. So, I personally think you are showing you ignorance thinking that Dante doesn’t “give a shit.” If anything he is the one that cares the most.
Now let me address Marty. I happen to know the guy very well, and in my opinion he is a great guy. He is warm, warm, congenial, personable and honorable There are not many people that I trust, but I would say that Marty is one of them. While some of ya’ll might not take my word for it, I know that I am not the only one that feels this way The Shrink thinks highly of him as well as many others I know. Also, as you saw somewhere else even Lenny from Cascade vouched for Marty. I guess that makes every one of us a bad judge of character. Since, well that is what we are talking about is ones character. I find it surprising that you thought so highly of The Shrink’s character when he helped to get you paid but now that it doesn’t benefit you, you find a fault in it. Hypocrisy at its greatest.
You say that Marty stole from a WHOLE COUNTRY. Wow that is quiet an achievement to steal from a WHOLE COUNTRY. You know- I know that you are creditable and all, but I had to check on this myself. I called someone in Denmark, they were angry that I would call so early. But I asked them, have had your money stolen. They said no. I then asked if they knew a Mary Jenson, again they said NO. WOW what a shocker..
I know a few of ya’ll are wondering why Marty has not come on here to defend himself.
Well I think one of net2k’s posts from a while back really does a good job of explaining this. Net- do you remember this one. The one where you were “shilling” for Pino, even we you made a point to say that was not what you were doing. Let me quote here I think you did such a good job.
“I think it is really sad that this guy Pino ( in this case we will use Marty) needs to defend himself here. If I was in his shoes I would be pretty pissed off at what is going on here. I would just walk away….. But if you walk away then the users of the forum will think the book is at fault here and is dodging the questions. A forum like this can ruin a company's reputation, even if the company is not at fault. (oh this part is good I know it doesn’t apply, but it sure does make me giggle). Pino I am impressed that you have stayed this whole time to stand up for yourself. I think all the lurkers/readers of this forum like me can see who is telling the truth and who is not.
And I am sure Journeyman will call me a shill for Pino, but I do not have an account at his book or have ever played there. Plus I'm sure your buddy dell dude can let you know what type of person I really am.
Good luck to you in the future Pino (or Marty). Don't let immature posters get to you.”
Nice post Angelle. i agree with all of your points. In my life i have been taught that there are TWO sides to every story. I am a college graduate who is smart enough to process information objectively. The crux with these forums is that people extrapolate on limited information from people who only mean harm and never say a nice thing about anyone. it is pretty sad that there are people out there who are so short sighted that they don't take time to see both sides of any dispute. Angelle, your points are very well taken, and like I always say, "I judge people by the way they treat me, not by the malicious words of a select few." if he does the right thing with the site, keeps it objective, and is smart enough to keep Kenny as the main operator, the RX will be just fine and these ghosts can go on their merry ways to haunt another site.
Okay Angelle here we go.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>WOW have you come a long way from your first post.
(http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=988094022&m=8983088895)
Let me start by recapping a few of my favorite things from this first post.
“Thank you very much Shrink- I just wanted to thank the Shrink for helping me out with a book that was stalling me on a Western Union withdrawal. I emailed Shrink and he responded very quickly. Few hours later I got an email from the sportsbook to have me call them and get my controller #. I did and got paid. So I just wanted to give thanks where its due. So thank you very much Shrink for your help. I appreciate it very much that your willing to go at bat for people to get paid even when that book does not advertise on this site. That really shows a lot about a persons character. It is greatly appreciated even though sometimes we forget to give thanks where it is due”<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Right there I was thanking Shrink for helping me by getting my money from Getabet who was slow paying me. I first got the bullshit of the money will be in your account soon. Then we have to audit your account. Then I gave up on them and emailed shrink and he got me my money in minutes by western union. For that I was thankful. I give credit where credit is due.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I don’t know what happened. But the last few months you have been nothing but a RX Basher. I mean the negativity just doesn’t stop. Jumping in and out of threads spewing your hostility. I think we got your point after about the 70th post no need to keep going and going.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No Angelle thats were you are wrong. If what I post doesnt compliment the Rx I am a basher. If I said Shrink is great and Angelle is so beautiful I am a good poster. You guys dont like the truth when it affects you.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>OK NOW THAT I GOT ALL OF THAT OUT.
Let me address the issue at hand.
First may I ask that you get off of Dante’s ass. I will use something you said- you see this is where you are being IGNORTANT again, you are so ignorant it is sad. Dante not only works harder to help the players than any other moderator, but he is also the most objective and overall fair moderator. So, I personally think you are showing you ignorance thinking that Dante doesn’t “give a shit.” If anything he is the one that cares the most.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
There has been posted NUMEROUS PROOF that Marty Jensen has stolen money from players. You might remember seeing it. It is in the thread that was locked. No reason from you guys yet why it was locked either. So Angelle go read that thread like I told Dante to and all the proof is there for you to see. Dante doesnt care because he is waiting to see it with his own eyes. So Angelle if I killed your brother but you didnt see it happen, then it never really happened right? I mean Dante and the rest of your gang would have to see me do it in order for it to be true right? Yea...
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Now let me address Marty. I happen to know the guy very well, and in my opinion he is a great guy. He is warm, warm, congenial, personable and honorable There are not many people that I trust, but I would say that Marty is one of them. While some of ya’ll might not take my word for it, I know that I am not the only one that feels this way The Shrink thinks highly of him as well as many others I know. Also, as you saw somewhere else even Lenny from Cascade vouched for Marty. I guess that makes every one of us a bad judge of character. Since, well that is what we are talking about is ones character. I find it surprising that you thought so highly of The Shrink’s character when he helped to get you paid but now that it doesn’t benefit you, you find a fault in it. Hypocrisy at its greatest. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am glad you know this guy very well. I am sure you know your Father very well also. But I am sure if he cheated on your mother you would never know about it. So just because you have been out to dinner with this guy, or if he bought you a nice car, or if he is paying for your education doesnt mean shit. I am glad you trust him. Lenny never vouched for him. Lenny said
"Fellas-
Take this for what it is worth.
I have met Marty. He is a good guy and very successful businessman.
I haven't heard anyone say a bad word about him.
Lenny "
So Angelle Lenny is not vouching for him. Please learn the difference. I am sure Lenny doesnt keep track of Marty's businesses. I am sure Lenny is not concerned about the slot players that play at Marty's casino. And I am sure Marty would never admit to Lenny that he has stolen money from his players. And back to your thinking highly of Shrink. Yes I did. Until now I see everything that is happening here. The PROOF is in that thread. He can go talk to Casino Watchdogs like what you guys try to be here and they will tell him the same thing.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>You say that Marty stole from a WHOLE COUNTRY. Wow that is quiet an achievement to steal from a WHOLE COUNTRY. You know- I know that you are creditable and all, but I had to check on this myself. I called someone in Denmark, they were angry that I would call so early. But I asked them, have had your money stolen. They said no. I then asked if they knew a Mary Jenson, again they said NO. WOW what a shocker.. Wink" Ok Ok I will be serious again. My understanding is that Denmark in the Online Casino World is comparable to Russia in the Sportsbetting world. If that is the case I cringe at the thought of all the scams that were pulled from Denmark. You know normally I would take these this to heart and try to understand your side and work with you. But the truth is after I read all your post your credibility was lost. It was very obvious to me that you were just looking for any reason to bash the RX. As evidence by all of your posts in the last few months. What is this REALLY about? Tell us how you really feel- cause the negativity is not something new for you. It has been going on for a while now.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That is great. You are beautiful and funny. Congratulations. Back to topic. Lets get this straight. You have no understanding of Denmark because you KNOW nothing about it. There is no fraud there then anymore there is here on this site. You talk about credibility. I dont need credibility when I posting the truth and proof has been shown. So if I lost credibility to you, I am sorry and hope you can live without it. Once again no bashing the Rx by me. Just posting the truth that doesnt look kindly on the Rx is bashing to you, then you need to deal with that also. I have already posted many times about "what is this REALLY about?" It is about Marty Jensen being a THIEF and you all acceping this STOLEN MONEY.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>know a few of ya’ll are wondering why Marty has not come on here to defend himself.
Well I think one of net2k’s posts from a while back really does a good job of explaining this. Net- do you remember this one. The one where you were “shilling” for Pino, even we you made a point to say that was not what you were doing. Let me quote here I think you did such a good job.
“I think it is really sad that this guy Pino ( in this case we will use Marty) needs to defend himself here. If I was in his shoes I would be pretty pissed off at what is going on here. I would just walk away….. But if you walk away then the users of the forum will think the book is at fault here and is dodging the questions. A forum like this can ruin a company's reputation, even if the company is not at fault. (oh this part is good I know it doesn’t apply, but it sure does make me giggle). Pino I am impressed that you have stayed this whole time to stand up for yourself. I think all the lurkers/readers of this forum like me can see who is telling the truth and who is not.
And I am sure Journeyman will call me a shill for Pino, but I do not have an account at his book or have ever played there. Plus I'm sure your buddy dell dude can let you know what type of person I really am.
Good luck to you in the future Pino (or Marty). Don't let immature posters get to you.”<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Let see if you can understand this Angelle. At that time there was no slow pay or no no-pay issues about Pino. There was no PROOF. Just that he was a small shitty shop and I agree with that. Journeyman on the other hand was already trying to scam people on this forum, and trying to scam pino also by PROMOTING his book for him. Pino stood up for himself and I was impressed. Now if Marty can come standup for himself here that would be wonderful also. Then we can let the facts decide wether he is a THEIF or NOT. So please bring Marty here so we all can discuss this.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>WOW have you come a long way from your first post.
(http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=988094022&m=8983088895)
Let me start by recapping a few of my favorite things from this first post.
“Thank you very much Shrink- I just wanted to thank the Shrink for helping me out with a book that was stalling me on a Western Union withdrawal. I emailed Shrink and he responded very quickly. Few hours later I got an email from the sportsbook to have me call them and get my controller #. I did and got paid. So I just wanted to give thanks where its due. So thank you very much Shrink for your help. I appreciate it very much that your willing to go at bat for people to get paid even when that book does not advertise on this site. That really shows a lot about a persons character. It is greatly appreciated even though sometimes we forget to give thanks where it is due”<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Right there I was thanking Shrink for helping me by getting my money from Getabet who was slow paying me. I first got the bullshit of the money will be in your account soon. Then we have to audit your account. Then I gave up on them and emailed shrink and he got me my money in minutes by western union. For that I was thankful. I give credit where credit is due.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I don’t know what happened. But the last few months you have been nothing but a RX Basher. I mean the negativity just doesn’t stop. Jumping in and out of threads spewing your hostility. I think we got your point after about the 70th post no need to keep going and going.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No Angelle thats were you are wrong. If what I post doesnt compliment the Rx I am a basher. If I said Shrink is great and Angelle is so beautiful I am a good poster. You guys dont like the truth when it affects you.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>OK NOW THAT I GOT ALL OF THAT OUT.
Let me address the issue at hand.
First may I ask that you get off of Dante’s ass. I will use something you said- you see this is where you are being IGNORTANT again, you are so ignorant it is sad. Dante not only works harder to help the players than any other moderator, but he is also the most objective and overall fair moderator. So, I personally think you are showing you ignorance thinking that Dante doesn’t “give a shit.” If anything he is the one that cares the most.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
There has been posted NUMEROUS PROOF that Marty Jensen has stolen money from players. You might remember seeing it. It is in the thread that was locked. No reason from you guys yet why it was locked either. So Angelle go read that thread like I told Dante to and all the proof is there for you to see. Dante doesnt care because he is waiting to see it with his own eyes. So Angelle if I killed your brother but you didnt see it happen, then it never really happened right? I mean Dante and the rest of your gang would have to see me do it in order for it to be true right? Yea...
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Now let me address Marty. I happen to know the guy very well, and in my opinion he is a great guy. He is warm, warm, congenial, personable and honorable There are not many people that I trust, but I would say that Marty is one of them. While some of ya’ll might not take my word for it, I know that I am not the only one that feels this way The Shrink thinks highly of him as well as many others I know. Also, as you saw somewhere else even Lenny from Cascade vouched for Marty. I guess that makes every one of us a bad judge of character. Since, well that is what we are talking about is ones character. I find it surprising that you thought so highly of The Shrink’s character when he helped to get you paid but now that it doesn’t benefit you, you find a fault in it. Hypocrisy at its greatest. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am glad you know this guy very well. I am sure you know your Father very well also. But I am sure if he cheated on your mother you would never know about it. So just because you have been out to dinner with this guy, or if he bought you a nice car, or if he is paying for your education doesnt mean shit. I am glad you trust him. Lenny never vouched for him. Lenny said
"Fellas-
Take this for what it is worth.
I have met Marty. He is a good guy and very successful businessman.
I haven't heard anyone say a bad word about him.
Lenny "
So Angelle Lenny is not vouching for him. Please learn the difference. I am sure Lenny doesnt keep track of Marty's businesses. I am sure Lenny is not concerned about the slot players that play at Marty's casino. And I am sure Marty would never admit to Lenny that he has stolen money from his players. And back to your thinking highly of Shrink. Yes I did. Until now I see everything that is happening here. The PROOF is in that thread. He can go talk to Casino Watchdogs like what you guys try to be here and they will tell him the same thing.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>You say that Marty stole from a WHOLE COUNTRY. Wow that is quiet an achievement to steal from a WHOLE COUNTRY. You know- I know that you are creditable and all, but I had to check on this myself. I called someone in Denmark, they were angry that I would call so early. But I asked them, have had your money stolen. They said no. I then asked if they knew a Mary Jenson, again they said NO. WOW what a shocker.. Wink" Ok Ok I will be serious again. My understanding is that Denmark in the Online Casino World is comparable to Russia in the Sportsbetting world. If that is the case I cringe at the thought of all the scams that were pulled from Denmark. You know normally I would take these this to heart and try to understand your side and work with you. But the truth is after I read all your post your credibility was lost. It was very obvious to me that you were just looking for any reason to bash the RX. As evidence by all of your posts in the last few months. What is this REALLY about? Tell us how you really feel- cause the negativity is not something new for you. It has been going on for a while now.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That is great. You are beautiful and funny. Congratulations. Back to topic. Lets get this straight. You have no understanding of Denmark because you KNOW nothing about it. There is no fraud there then anymore there is here on this site. You talk about credibility. I dont need credibility when I posting the truth and proof has been shown. So if I lost credibility to you, I am sorry and hope you can live without it. Once again no bashing the Rx by me. Just posting the truth that doesnt look kindly on the Rx is bashing to you, then you need to deal with that also. I have already posted many times about "what is this REALLY about?" It is about Marty Jensen being a THIEF and you all acceping this STOLEN MONEY.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>know a few of ya’ll are wondering why Marty has not come on here to defend himself.
Well I think one of net2k’s posts from a while back really does a good job of explaining this. Net- do you remember this one. The one where you were “shilling” for Pino, even we you made a point to say that was not what you were doing. Let me quote here I think you did such a good job.
“I think it is really sad that this guy Pino ( in this case we will use Marty) needs to defend himself here. If I was in his shoes I would be pretty pissed off at what is going on here. I would just walk away….. But if you walk away then the users of the forum will think the book is at fault here and is dodging the questions. A forum like this can ruin a company's reputation, even if the company is not at fault. (oh this part is good I know it doesn’t apply, but it sure does make me giggle). Pino I am impressed that you have stayed this whole time to stand up for yourself. I think all the lurkers/readers of this forum like me can see who is telling the truth and who is not.
And I am sure Journeyman will call me a shill for Pino, but I do not have an account at his book or have ever played there. Plus I'm sure your buddy dell dude can let you know what type of person I really am.
Good luck to you in the future Pino (or Marty). Don't let immature posters get to you.”<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Let see if you can understand this Angelle. At that time there was no slow pay or no no-pay issues about Pino. There was no PROOF. Just that he was a small shitty shop and I agree with that. Journeyman on the other hand was already trying to scam people on this forum, and trying to scam pino also by PROMOTING his book for him. Pino stood up for himself and I was impressed. Now if Marty can come standup for himself here that would be wonderful also. Then we can let the facts decide wether he is a THEIF or NOT. So please bring Marty here so we all can discuss this.
Angelle since I know you wont go read the thread that was LOCKED by you folks, I will bring the proof to you here.
posted November 03, 2003 03:23 PM
Another reference to Marten and his scum factory
http://www.casinomeister.com/news/january2003.html#MAIN
MAIN STREET BLUES
17 January 2003
Speculation on financial health of Main Street Vegas group
Las Vegas USA, Twin Aces, Vegas Casino Online, Slots.com, Sun Palace and Diamond Deal casinos in the Main Street Vegas group were the subject of some intense speculation on the message boards this week as players compared notes on increasingly slow payouts and "creative" excuses.
Impertinence by CSR operatives accusing players of "lacking patience" after waiting a month for a payout did not go down well either.
Players are concerned because this pattern of behaviour in the past has often heralded casino failures that have left clients out of pocket, and there is the worrying thought that the software provider - Playtech - may not have a player safety net policy in place. As we went to press players had emailed for clarification but no response had been received.
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posted November 03, 2003 03:23 PM
Another reference to Marten and his scum factory
http://www.casinomeister.com/news/january2003.html#MAIN
MAIN STREET BLUES
17 January 2003
Speculation on financial health of Main Street Vegas group
Las Vegas USA, Twin Aces, Vegas Casino Online, Slots.com, Sun Palace and Diamond Deal casinos in the Main Street Vegas group were the subject of some intense speculation on the message boards this week as players compared notes on increasingly slow payouts and "creative" excuses.
Impertinence by CSR operatives accusing players of "lacking patience" after waiting a month for a payout did not go down well either.
Players are concerned because this pattern of behaviour in the past has often heralded casino failures that have left clients out of pocket, and there is the worrying thought that the software provider - Playtech - may not have a player safety net policy in place. As we went to press players had emailed for clarification but no response had been received.
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bellew
Mildly Insane
posted November 03, 2003 03:28 PM
I am one of the no doubt many people that got completely screwed over by Marty and the Mainstreet Vegas group of casinos. A friend and I were both playing at their casinos quite reguarly and I had accumulated TONS of winnings by hitting several royal flushes. My friend for some reason opened a casino account on my computer, and because of that Marty and MSV decided not to pay any of my legitimate winnings. These were winnings from royal flushes. He didnt decide to take back bonuses or anything like that, he flat out stole all the money he could from me, including even stealing some deposits. Unfortunately, I have suffered a catastrophic computer crash where I lost all my records, but I know that MSV owed me about $20,000. This is a LOT of money for me!!! We sent in documents proving we were different people, I talked to the various managers on the phone and by email many many times, but in the end they just said they were stealing my money and they would not entertain any more discussion about it.
Mainstreet Vegas Casino Group is SCUM!!
Mildly Insane
posted November 03, 2003 03:28 PM
I am one of the no doubt many people that got completely screwed over by Marty and the Mainstreet Vegas group of casinos. A friend and I were both playing at their casinos quite reguarly and I had accumulated TONS of winnings by hitting several royal flushes. My friend for some reason opened a casino account on my computer, and because of that Marty and MSV decided not to pay any of my legitimate winnings. These were winnings from royal flushes. He didnt decide to take back bonuses or anything like that, he flat out stole all the money he could from me, including even stealing some deposits. Unfortunately, I have suffered a catastrophic computer crash where I lost all my records, but I know that MSV owed me about $20,000. This is a LOT of money for me!!! We sent in documents proving we were different people, I talked to the various managers on the phone and by email many many times, but in the end they just said they were stealing my money and they would not entertain any more discussion about it.
Mainstreet Vegas Casino Group is SCUM!!
