From someone with better sources than Mortenson

[PatsFanatic]

It is looking more and more like they didn't do anything wrong. I have been on the side of they cheated since this fiasco started.
Tom didn't look very comfortable at that presser, but looking back now, was the smartest move to throw the officials under the bus? He doesn't gain anything from that.

Then Belichick sounded as convincing as possible in his most recent rant. The media is always asking for more during his pressers, well they got it.

The balls went to the officials light, they didn't get checked properly. That is not the Pats fault. If it is then the Packers are cheaters as well!

 

[vitterd]

No, perception is not reality, on reality is reality, and the facts once they'really fully disclosed will become reality.

The fact that Brady prefers softer balls supports the conclusion that their prea sure starts at the low end of the legal limits and thus are more likely to fall below those limits as the game progres see es. That's not cheating

They will be exonerated

The NFL may exonerate them...but that will be more of because the NFL's incompetence or Goodells own personal reasons to save his ass and his good standing with owners. They will not be exonerated based on the facts.

I've come to realize that arguing with pats fans, penn st fans, cowboy fans is a lost cause. They will only see things one way.

Good luck with your team sunday...I've always admired the pats and tom brady for what they do on the field but in this case...the deciet is obvious and I'm not burying my head because I admire what they've been able to do last decade plus.

 

[FearTheRaven]

Here's an interesting article about the Patriots absurdly low fumble rate since 2007. Good read unless you're a Pats fan, lol.

http://www.slate.com/articles/sport...s_lose_an_insanely_low_number_of_fumbles.html

 

[PatsFanatic]

He proved that the Pats are a really good team who run A LOT of plays and hang on to the ball.
That is groundbreaking!

 

[MantisToboggan]

Lmao.....
Peter King now confirms what I said balls only down 1 psi.
.....And!!!! The focus is now on the referees
Bwahahahaha

http://deadspin.com/peter-king-is-a-goddamn-embarrassment-1665259136

I'm shocked that Peter King would confirm something that makes the NFL/Roger's life easier.

 

[celticGreen+]

Here's an interesting article about the Patriots absurdly low fumble rate since 2007. Good read unless you're a Pats fan, lol.

http://www.slate.com/articles/sport...s_lose_an_insanely_low_number_of_fumbles.html

Barnwell talked about this... He thinks there are more simple explanations for their low fumble totals (scheme, personnel decisions, etc). Not really sure which side I'm on, as both sides of the argument are pretty interesting.

 

[MikeB]

Uh...this is as easy it looks. Brady has said in the past that he prefers deflated footballs. The footballs were deflated. The pats have a history of breaking rules. If you can add 2+2...you can figure this csee out. Your basis for argument is coming from sharksofvegas.com and you telling me to stick to the truth. Lol

Did you actually see Brady's press conference? It was an embarrassment and clear he was not telling the truth.

Do you know how ridiculous it sounds to say the colts balls were over inflated and thast why theirs was correct when checked? I mean seriously...take your blinders off.

I won't be unhinged at all about anything. I bet the pats on sunday....but that doesn't mean I don't knw they deflate footballs.

I'm sure you can provide the link to where Brady used the word "deflated" ( as in under the acceptable level)

 

[PatPatriot]

I'm shocked that Peter King would confirm something that makes the NFL/Roger's life easier.

What the fuck are you talking about?? If the Pats are proven not to have done anything wrong the NFL looks like a bunch of assholes they already supposedly allowed the AFCCG first half to knowingly be played without a regulation ball....WHAAATT???
You mean all this hoopla over a little air pressure in a football that so far the only ones knew that it was being played like that is the NFL.
Are you shittin me????
NFL isn't saying because they are fucked in this thing.
Belichick on Saturday said ALL IN. Call YA!.....What you got NFL???

 

[festeringZit]

Here's an interesting article about the Patriots absurdly low fumble rate since 2007. Good read unless you're a Pats fan, lol.

http://www.slate.com/articles/sport...s_lose_an_insanely_low_number_of_fumbles.html

Anyone who seriously thinks that this statistical anomaly is related to a ball that is inflated differently 1-2 psi is *really* fucking stupid.

 

[PatPatriot]

Here's an interesting article about the Patriots absurdly low fumble rate since 2007. Good read unless you're a Pats fan, lol.

Bullshit two of those years they had Ben Jarvis Green Ellis who not only never fumbled with the Pats never fumbled in high school or college.

 

[REDEYE]

and I thought Brady and Belicheat looked bad..... man some of you homers

 

[festeringZit]

and I thought Brady and Belicheat looked bad..... man some of you homers

Haters like you are going to insist they cheated no matter what facts come out that indicate otherwise.

 

[FearTheRaven]

Another read on the low fumble rate: http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/

 

[vitterd]

I'm sure you can provide the link to where Brady used the word "deflated" ( as in under the acceptable level)

Ummmm...have you've been following this story at all? Brady has said he like throwing a deflated football. Made a comment about Gronk spiking the air out of the ball which he likes because he likes to throw a deflated football. Do you have cable or google? This has been played over and over again.

 

[MikeB]

Ummmm...have you've been following this story at all? Brady has said he like throwing a deflated football. Made a comment about Gronk spiking the air out of the ball which he likes because he likes to throw a deflated football. Do you have cable or google? This has been played over and over again.

He wasn't saying that he liked it under the acceptable level. He made it very clear that he likes it at the low end of the acceptable level.

He held a press conference over the weekend and said that. Not sure if you heard or not. Maybe Google has it for you.

 

[pocketrockets]

Another read on the low fumble rate: http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/

just finished it, thats really fucked up

 

[vitterd]

Haters like you are going to insist they cheated no matter what facts come out that indicate otherwise.

And patriot lovers are gonna defend them no matter what facts are out.

I have said many times in the past the admiration I have for pats and tom brady but it isn't blind loyalty like the homers. They cheated and deflated balls...it is as clear as day...I mean, these pat patriot type homers are scary type cult fans

 

[vitterd]

He wasn't saying that he liked it under the acceptable level. He made it very clear that he likes it at the low end of the acceptable level.

He held a press conference over the weekend and said that. Not sure if you heard or not. Maybe Google has it for you.

You make no sense. So you expected him to say " I like to throw a deflated football but only if it's still above an acceptable level". Lol. Oh boy.

He said he likes to throw a deflated football and 95 percent of the balls on pats sidelines are deflated....but that's just a coincedence I guess. Why people are making the obvious so difficult is downright scary.

 

[vitterd]

and I thought Brady and Belicheat looked bad..... man some of you homers

Scary aint it?

 

[festeringZit]

And patriot lovers are gonna defend them no matter what facts are out.

I have said many times in the past the admiration I have for pats and tom brady but it isn't blind loyalty like the homers. They cheated and deflated balls...it is as clear as day...I mean, these pat patriot type homers are scary type cult fans

I don't defend the spy-gate thing, but I do say that they didn't do anything that all/most of the other teams were doing, as far as that is concerned.

As far as the deflate thing, there is a lot less factual information, and a lot of misinformation/disinformation out there.