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[PatsFan1283]

In a text message sent to Jastremski, McNally referred to himself as the "deflator." Yet, according to the Patriots, there's a simple explanation for McNally's nickname. They claim it has nothing to do with deflating footballs, and instead, they claim it has everything to do with McNally wanting to lose weight.

Mr. Jastremski would sometimes work out and bulk up -- he is a slender guy and his goal was to get to 200 pounds. Mr. McNally is a big fellow and had the opposite goal: to lose weight. "Deflate" was a term they used to refer to losing weight. One can specifically see this use of the term in a Nov. 30, 2014 text from Mr. McNally to Mr. Jastremski: "deflate and give somebody that jacket." (p. 87). This banter, and Mr. McNally's goal of losing weight, meant Mr. McNally was the "deflator." There was nothing complicated or sinister about it.​

 

[Willie99]

patriots taking this to court? LOL

The New England organization, AFTER the Wells report came out , had time to read / maul it over, indefinitely suspended dumb and dumber . They have since NOT taken action against the NFL's ruling- i guess they agree , dumb and dumber are likely guilty.



"McNally later referred to himself as “the deflator,” and chided Jastremski by saying “im not going to espn……..yet.”"


LOL. Where did the Pats get these chaps?



hey, will New England counsel put McNally on the stand?

'why did you defalte the balls'?

McNally- 'do I gotta tell the truth?.....am I going to be okay?'

let's just say it's all going to play out the polar opposite of what you think

the real substance, from facts to science, fall on the side of the Pats. One silly little nickname is not going to outweigh all the substance, although I find it amusing how all the substance in their rebuttal gets ignored while a nickname gets all the attention.

speaks volumes to the prosecutions case

as far as their response, have you been sleeping the last two days my friend? It's a very significant and substantive rebuttal.

 

[vitterd]

let's just say it's all going to play out the polar opposite of what you think

the real substance, from facts to science, fall on the side of the Pats. One silly little nickname is not going to outweigh all the substance, although I find it amusing how all the substance in their rebuttal gets ignored while a nickname gets all the attention.

speaks volumes to the prosecutions case

as far as their response, have you been sleeping the last two days my friend? It's a very significant and substantive rebuttal.

Cmon willie....come clean....you're just being sarcastic messing with people. Not a chance you really believe this stuff. Science and facts on pats side....good one.

 

[Willie99]

How much money will Willie99 lose in this thread?

Over $599.99 -110
under $599.99 -110

do you actually think the courts won't reduce Brady's suspension?

I don't expect the prosecutor, judge, jury and self anointed lord of the 3 ring circus to reduce his sentence, but I fully expect the courts to laugh at / admonish him again

 

[Ricboff]

i have slept well, i thank you

i'm looking forward to the Pats seeking the truth. As i'm sure you are.


how's recovery? less fatigue?

 

[CHOPTALK]

let's just say it's all going to play out the polar opposite of what you think

the real substance, from facts to science, fall on the side of the Pats. One silly little nickname is not going to outweigh all the substance, although I find it amusing how all the substance in their rebuttal gets ignored while a nickname gets all the attention.

speaks volumes to the prosecutions case

as far as their response, have you been sleeping the last two days my friend? It's a very significant and substantive rebuttal.

I guess you did not learn a damn thing from bounty gate.

 

[Willie99]

I guess you did not learn a damn thing from bounty gate.

actually, Vilma did quite well and advised Brady to take the case to court

did you learn anything from Ray Rice? How about AP?

let's just say I expect the very same result the three of them WON


seriously? did I learn anything from what again?

 

[PatsFan1283]

Cmon willie....come clean....you're just being sarcastic messing with people. Not a chance you really believe this stuff. Science and facts on pats side....good one.

You don't think Brady will get the suspension reduced and possibility thrown out? He stands a good chance.

 

[MikeB]

I guess you did not learn a damn thing from bounty gate.

Unlike Rice and Peterson, the entire Saints organization rolled over. (Similar to thier 2014 Season).

 

[Willie99]

i have slept well, i thank you

i'm looking forward to the Pats seeking the truth. As i'm sure you are.


how's recovery? less fatigue?

I was doing great until late yesterday. A nasty nasal drip cough has set in, supposedly because the air is so damn bad right now, and coughing sucks

The medicine to suppress the nasal drip and the cough (codeine) knocks me down, so I'm just laying around the house right now.

But that's just a temporary setback

 

[Willie99]

Cmon willie....come clean....you're just being sarcastic messing with people. Not a chance you really believe this stuff. Science and facts on pats side....good one.

The Patriots, though, have repeatedly appealed to science as their defense. They say that balls naturally deflate in cold conditions. On their new site, they even feature Roderick MacKinnon, a Nobel Prize winner in chemistry (and not a Patriots employee).
MacKinnon declared that he didn't agree with the NFL's conclusion that "within the range of likely game conditions and circumstances studied, they could identify no set of credible environmental or physical factors that completely accounts for the Patriots halftime measurements or for the additional loss in air pressure exhibited by the Patriots game balls, as compared to the loss in air pressure exhibited by the Colts game balls."
He deflated the fact that the NFL allegedly ignored the referee's recollection of which gauge he used to test the ball pressure.
"The major uncertainty in the Wells Report scientific analysis," he said, "lies in the pregame measurement of ball pressures: there were two gauges that differ by approximately 0.4 psi, it is not certain which was used in the pregame measurement, and the data were not recorded."
Oh, dear. That sounds like basic science, doesn't it?
MacKinnon then begins to put the needle into the Wells Report: "If the pregame measurement of Patriots balls was made with the gauge that gives the higher number (high gauge) -- as was the Official's best recollection -- then when you compare the Patriots ball pressures at halftime using the same gauge, you observe that the average Patriots ball pressure drop (1.0 psi) falls precisely in the range predicted by the Ideal Gas Law (1.0 to 1.2 psi) for the temperature differences the balls were thought to experience on game day."

http://www.cnet.com/news/new-england-patriots-bring-out-nobel-prize-winner-in-deflategate-rebuttal/

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just a Nobel Prize winner my friend

do you think he'll be credible in court?

 

[vitterd]

The Patriots, though, have repeatedly appealed to science as their defense. They say that balls naturally deflate in cold conditions. On their new site, they even feature Roderick MacKinnon, a Nobel Prize winner in chemistry (and not a Patriots employee).
MacKinnon declared that he didn't agree with the NFL's conclusion that "within the range of likely game conditions and circumstances studied, they could identify no set of credible environmental or physical factors that completely accounts for the Patriots halftime measurements or for the additional loss in air pressure exhibited by the Patriots game balls, as compared to the loss in air pressure exhibited by the Colts game balls."
He deflated the fact that the NFL allegedly ignored the referee's recollection of which gauge he used to test the ball pressure.
"The major uncertainty in the Wells Report scientific analysis," he said, "lies in the pregame measurement of ball pressures: there were two gauges that differ by approximately 0.4 psi, it is not certain which was used in the pregame measurement, and the data were not recorded."
Oh, dear. That sounds like basic science, doesn't it?
MacKinnon then begins to put the needle into the Wells Report: "If the pregame measurement of Patriots balls was made with the gauge that gives the higher number (high gauge) -- as was the Official's best recollection -- then when you compare the Patriots ball pressures at halftime using the same gauge, you observe that the average Patriots ball pressure drop (1.0 psi) falls precisely in the range predicted by the Ideal Gas Law (1.0 to 1.2 psi) for the temperature differences the balls were thought to experience on game day."

http://www.cnet.com/news/new-england-patriots-bring-out-nobel-prize-winner-in-deflategate-rebuttal/

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just a Nobel Prize winner my friend

do you think he'll be credible in court?

Very credible....up until the point they bring up the temperature in New England that day. And yes I do know that science can also prove that an elephant can hang off a cliff with his tailed tied to a daisy. Use some common sense willie.

 

[vitterd]

And willie....if Nobel prize winners are always money.....I expect you to stop criticizing the president.

 

[Willie99]

Very credible....up until the point they bring up the temperature in New England that day. And yes I do know that science can also prove that an elephant can hang off a cliff with his tailed tied to a daisy. Use some common sense willie.

common sense?

believing Wells or you over Roderick MacKinnon? is that common sense?

do you actually think Mackinnon didn't consider all the variables? You think that's common sense?

I'm sorry, I think otherwise

 

[Willie99]

And willie....if Nobel prize winners are always money.....I expect you to stop criticizing the president.

OMG

one man is an expert in his field, the other man was nominated before he was inaugurated and do you really want to argue Obama is about "peace"?

c'mon man

 

[Ricboff]

I was doing great until late yesterday. A nasty nasal drip cough has set in, supposedly because the air is so damn bad right now, and coughing sucks

The medicine to suppress the nasal drip and the cough (codeine) knocks me down, so I'm just laying around the house right now.

But that's just a temporary setback

well that's a pretty strong antitussive agent, it's a narcotic (codeine). It's dosage can be adjusted if cerebral effects are too strong- cut the pill in half and see if desired effect is still effective with less collateral damage ('knocks me down'). Of course, an entirely different class of medication could be used, one with no/less CNS side effects

anyway, stay good

 

[Ricboff]

Pats, take the NFL to court!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


fight their flawed science, THEN go for the throat!!!!-- put dumb and dumber on the stand, then Mr.Brady..........









wait a minute.......maybe skip the 'go for the throat part'?

 

[vitterd]

OMG

one man is an expert in his field, the other man was nominated before he was inaugurated and do you really want to argue Obama is about "peace"?

c'mon man

it was said with tongue in cheek.

 

[Willie99]

it was said with tongue in cheek.

OK, then that's funny

 

[Acebb]

just a Nobel Prize winner my friend

do you think he'll be credible in court?

Well, he probably isn't going to court and when it is pointed out that Robert Kraft is one of the investors in MacKinnon's company, his credibility will be tarnished.