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There is no way is suspension is overturned. That would give the league almost no standing for loss of draft picks or even fines. Just don't want to lay -500 on over 0.5. Over 1.5 for even money?


I'm not relying on Roger, I'm looking to the courts

but I think, as part of an overall settlement on all fronts, Brady could accept two so that's the key number to me
 

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Smalldaddy though this was just gonna be some meeting with Goodell as arbiter and now realizing shit is real
 

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Vilma hired his own lawyer -- Peter Ginsberg -- exhausted the league's system of appeals and took the NFL and commissioner Roger Goodell to federal court.

Rice was overturned by an arbitrator. Peterson went to court

If the arbitrator rules against Brady, I fully expect him to go to court
 

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Love how goodell had Vincent deliver the suspension so he could hear appeal! Lol roger, nice try.

Seems to have worked.

<header class="article-header">Roger Goodell to hear Tom Brady's appeal of Deflategate suspension

9m - NFLNFL commissioner Roger Goodell has elected to preside over the appeal of New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's suspension, rejecting the NFLPA's request that an independent arbitrator hear the case.
</header> "Commissioner Goodell will hear the appeal of Tom Brady's suspension in accordance with the process agreed upon with the NFL Players Association in the 2011 collective bargaining agreement," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in a statement Thursday night.
NFLPA officials declined immediate comment Thursday night.
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  • Munson: NFLPA, Brady can't win appeal

    The evidence gathered in the NFL's Deflategate investigation is clear and convincing, and Tom Brady and the NFLPA have no real shot in winning their appeal.
</aside>The union filed a formal appeal on Brady's behalf on Thursday afternoon. Brady is contesting his four-game suspension in relation to Deflategate.
News of Goodell's decision was earlier reported by Bleacher Report and ESPN's Ed Werder.
Goodell hired Ted Wells to investigate Brady and the Patriots, and deferred the choice of punishment to NFL executive vice president Troy Vincent. Wells' findings led Vincent to suspend Brady for the first four games of the upcoming season.
In addition, Vincent handed down penalties to the team which will cost the the Patriots two draft picks, including a first-rounder in 2016, and $1 million. The Patriots have until May 21 to file an appeal of their penalties.
The 243-page report concluded it was "more probable than not" that Brady was aware of the planned deflation of Patriots game balls in the AFC Championship Game.
Wells himself defended his findings earlier this week in the face of what he called "ridiculous" allegations that questioned his independence from the league office and whether or not the Patriots were victims of a witch hunt.
On Thursday, prior to the filing of Brady's appeal, the Patriots attempted to poke holes in Wells' report by launching a website that directly challenges some of the findings.
 

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With Goodell heading this, Brady is fucked (unless he wants to go to court). It just looks like Goodell wants Brady's first game to be against colts.

Say Patriots are 3-1 vs their matchup vs colts, they should sit Brady as a big 'fuck you' to the nfl, Goodell, the colts, the public and just run the ball down their throats.
 

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With Goodell heading this, Brady is fucked (unless he wants to go to court). It just looks like Goodell wants Brady's first game to be against colts.

Say Patriots are 3-1 vs their matchup vs colts, they should sit Brady as a big 'fuck you' to the nfl, Goodell, the colts, the public and just run the ball down their throats.

I concur, it's not likely that Goodell changes anything, keeping his charade going as long as he possibly can

However, I think it's almost a certainty that Brady goes to court if the suspension remains at four games.

The organization might actually litigate against the commissioner, something that I don't think has happened since the Al Davis moves. I don't think even the Saints (organization) challenged Roger in court
 

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Patriots or Brady will not go to court unless they are able to take the 5th
 

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Patriots or Brady will not go to court unless they are able to take the 5th

Brady's going to court if his suspension is not reduced. I'll put my money where my mouth is if you like

The Pats are not a certainty. I really don't understand why or why not, I've just read that it's not as black and white for the organization as it is for the players.

It's a different hurdle they have to jump, and they may not want to drag the league (read other owners) into this. I still think they will, but I'm certain Brady will.
 

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The NFL had an independent investigator (Wells) do the Witch Hunt....err....I mean Investigation, now the NFL has an independent Arbitrator (Goodell) to rule on this.


Seems legit.
 

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Brady's going to court if his suspension is not reduced. I'll put my money where my mouth is if you like

The Pats are not a certainty. I really don't understand why or why not, I've just read that it's not as black and white for the organization as it is for the players.

It's a different hurdle they have to jump, and they may not want to drag the league (read other owners) into this. I still think they will, but I'm certain Brady will.

go ahead just take a selfie Murph can use a new avatar
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How much money will Willie99 lose in this thread?

Over $599.99 -110
under $599.99 -110
 

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Patriots or Brady will not go to court unless they are able to take the 5th
Can you imagine Brady on the stand? Lol...if it's anything like his press conference he might get convicted of the Hoffa murder.
 

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patriots taking this to court? LOL

The New England organization, AFTER the Wells report came out , had time to read / maul it over, indefinitely suspended dumb and dumber . They have since NOT taken action against the NFL's ruling- i guess they agree , dumb and dumber are likely guilty. :)



"McNally later referred to himself as “the deflator,” and chided Jastremski by saying “im not going to espn……..yet.”"


LOL. Where did the Pats get these chaps?



hey, will New England counsel put McNally on the stand?

'why did you defalte the balls'?

McNally- 'do I gotta tell the truth?.....am I going to be okay?'


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Ric you are taking the deflator thing out of context. He was trying to lose weight.

It is ashame he can't do that in peace considering the obesity epidemic we have already in this country.
 

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huh? i heard he's 14% body fat. A vegan.

anybody got a pic of this gentleman?
 

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