Thoughts on bashing of playersonly and others:
I don't know if Players did or did not make accused mistakes but what I feel is becoming a distressing trend here is how we are allowing people that have been posting here for years be attacked by people who have not and very few posts. I have had my differences on here with some people like Winbet,Highdaddy,even before Jimmy Hoffa but one thing I will say is they have earned the right to criticized as they have helped grow this site with their loyalty. I find it ridiculous that we are allowing and then supporting people who go on the warpath vs people like Playersonly and we support them over someone who has been loyal. The way I was brought up, despite mistakes you stand by people and help them in their time of need; not kick them when their down. Has someone who has several thousand posts earned the right to make a mistake and not be supported. Or is it more important to have someone who lurks, posts very little, makes accusations, to make this person feel right at home on here at the RX for nothing they have done except tear down long time poster for personal and many times vindictive reasons. There are a lot of good posters who don't post a lot like Dribble Drive who question but do it in a professional way. I may not agree with Dribble but I respect his courtesy and respect him as a poster. Many of us are complaining how we are losing good posters who have done it for a long time but we do nothing to defend them in their time of need regardless of right or wrong. My child may make a mistake, and she/he will pay the consequences inside and behind closed doors, but I will stand by them in public 100%. For example, a great story and true is with my sister going to prison for several years when she was young for her involvement in dui/vehicular manslaughter. Did my parents turn their back on her because she is a convicted felon? No, they love her the same and supported her. Character is not only somebody that never makes a mistake, most time the best character results from someone who has made mistakes and how they handle it. Before you become successful, have character, or win at anything you must go throught trial and tribulations, issues, and lose. Summing this up, I believe in free speech, people being exposed if they do somethng wrong, but also the right to be innocent until proven guilty as well as right to make things right and be forgiven if guilty. For those that never go or have never attended a bash, I truly believe your attitudes would be different if you go to one. People you find out are way different in person than they are over internet. You will see how close this group really is. You also will change the way you feel on posting some of this garbage. 99.9% of the time I don't go into someone else's thread and bashing. I do bash probably 50% of the time when someone comes into my threads that I don't like what they wrote. It is human nature for me but also unnecessary. As a result, I will vow and ask others to do the same, that I will no longer under any circumstances, attack another poster in defending or initiating it, I will stick to solid reasoning when in disagreement, or if I have nothing good to say, I will bite my tongue and say nothing. If I can't do that, I will excuse myself from posting anymore on here at the RX. Us old timers have to set an example and I will starting now put my best foot forward to lead by example. I will also apologize to any I have had problems with before and let you know that all have a clean slate with me. I am letting bygones be bygones and will leave everything in the past. BOL everyone and lets make the RX the best place it can be. Peace!
I don't know if Players did or did not make accused mistakes but what I feel is becoming a distressing trend here is how we are allowing people that have been posting here for years be attacked by people who have not and very few posts. I have had my differences on here with some people like Winbet,Highdaddy,even before Jimmy Hoffa but one thing I will say is they have earned the right to criticized as they have helped grow this site with their loyalty. I find it ridiculous that we are allowing and then supporting people who go on the warpath vs people like Playersonly and we support them over someone who has been loyal. The way I was brought up, despite mistakes you stand by people and help them in their time of need; not kick them when their down. Has someone who has several thousand posts earned the right to make a mistake and not be supported. Or is it more important to have someone who lurks, posts very little, makes accusations, to make this person feel right at home on here at the RX for nothing they have done except tear down long time poster for personal and many times vindictive reasons. There are a lot of good posters who don't post a lot like Dribble Drive who question but do it in a professional way. I may not agree with Dribble but I respect his courtesy and respect him as a poster. Many of us are complaining how we are losing good posters who have done it for a long time but we do nothing to defend them in their time of need regardless of right or wrong. My child may make a mistake, and she/he will pay the consequences inside and behind closed doors, but I will stand by them in public 100%. For example, a great story and true is with my sister going to prison for several years when she was young for her involvement in dui/vehicular manslaughter. Did my parents turn their back on her because she is a convicted felon? No, they love her the same and supported her. Character is not only somebody that never makes a mistake, most time the best character results from someone who has made mistakes and how they handle it. Before you become successful, have character, or win at anything you must go throught trial and tribulations, issues, and lose. Summing this up, I believe in free speech, people being exposed if they do somethng wrong, but also the right to be innocent until proven guilty as well as right to make things right and be forgiven if guilty. For those that never go or have never attended a bash, I truly believe your attitudes would be different if you go to one. People you find out are way different in person than they are over internet. You will see how close this group really is. You also will change the way you feel on posting some of this garbage. 99.9% of the time I don't go into someone else's thread and bashing. I do bash probably 50% of the time when someone comes into my threads that I don't like what they wrote. It is human nature for me but also unnecessary. As a result, I will vow and ask others to do the same, that I will no longer under any circumstances, attack another poster in defending or initiating it, I will stick to solid reasoning when in disagreement, or if I have nothing good to say, I will bite my tongue and say nothing. If I can't do that, I will excuse myself from posting anymore on here at the RX. Us old timers have to set an example and I will starting now put my best foot forward to lead by example. I will also apologize to any I have had problems with before and let you know that all have a clean slate with me. I am letting bygones be bygones and will leave everything in the past. BOL everyone and lets make the RX the best place it can be. Peace!
I still find it very ironic that this is basically an anti-bashing thread, where lots of posters have agreed that a more positive approach is preferable to the bashing, and the thread gets thrown in the rubber room. I can see a bashing thread in the rubber room, but an anti-bashing thread? I suppose if the powers that be are going to support people like husker and what's his name, the one I promised to never mention again, regardless of how hostile and antagonistic many of their posts have been, then that just says a lot about what's preferred and what's allowed here and what isn't.
I have tried to be an extremely positive poster, but apparently it wasn't enough. An old Buddhist saying goes: 'If someone calls me a rascal, it behooves me to find out why he thinks so.'
I am looking regarding myself, to understand why others have said what they said. It's up to each of us whether we take responsibility of our our state and the impact we have on others, or whether we simply blame others for all our troubles and ignore our own part in it.
Eventually, we each have to take responsibility for our own negative emotions. If we only blame them on others, we learn nothing.
To each of you, take care and best of luck. I hope you win and win and win.
I have tried to be an extremely positive poster, but apparently it wasn't enough. An old Buddhist saying goes: 'If someone calls me a rascal, it behooves me to find out why he thinks so.'
I am looking regarding myself, to understand why others have said what they said. It's up to each of us whether we take responsibility of our our state and the impact we have on others, or whether we simply blame others for all our troubles and ignore our own part in it.
Eventually, we each have to take responsibility for our own negative emotions. If we only blame them on others, we learn nothing.
To each of you, take care and best of luck. I hope you win and win and win.
NY Reb - Good Heart.
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Good Heart is getting a bad rap and no one is defending him, so I will do it myself. I am a client of the site he represents, because I love seeing who everyone is on, I love knowing who pro cappers are making their big games. I learn a lot about capping by having this info.
bhb, the SPW site that Good Heart represents is nothing like the sites you listed. There is no comparison. I can assure you that if any stealing is going on, it is probably the other way around. You run a free site and steal from anyone and everyone you can. How can you possibly have the gall to accuse someone else of stealing?
Anyway, Good Heart's service delivers exactly what he says. There is no fraud about him. If you continue harassing him you really will look like an idiot.
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Good Heart is promoting something called Sportspickwinners.com down in the Site Promotion Forum and now it turns out he has an exact IP match with NY Reb..Then NY Reb posts in a Good Heart promotion thread (see above).
More of the same Click here..
Exact IP Match:
Good Heart 208.29.1XX.XXX
NY Reb 208.29.1XX.XXX
Go Figure.
wil.
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<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Sorry, I just have to come in here.
Good Heart is getting a bad rap and no one is defending him, so I will do it myself. I am a client of the site he represents, because I love seeing who everyone is on, I love knowing who pro cappers are making their big games. I learn a lot about capping by having this info.
bhb, the SPW site that Good Heart represents is nothing like the sites you listed. There is no comparison. I can assure you that if any stealing is going on, it is probably the other way around. You run a free site and steal from anyone and everyone you can. How can you possibly have the gall to accuse someone else of stealing?
Anyway, Good Heart's service delivers exactly what he says. There is no fraud about him. If you continue harassing him you really will look like an idiot.
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Good Heart is promoting something called Sportspickwinners.com down in the Site Promotion Forum and now it turns out he has an exact IP match with NY Reb..Then NY Reb posts in a Good Heart promotion thread (see above).
More of the same Click here..
Exact IP Match:
Good Heart 208.29.1XX.XXX
NY Reb 208.29.1XX.XXX
Go Figure.
wil.
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Actually, I never thought anyone would care. Did I do anything that had the slightest negative effect?
I like the site that Wilheim mentioned, sportspickwinners.com, and told the guys there that I would put the word out about them here at the rx. I'm more of a writer than they are, and I really believe in their product, because I have made money using it. Only I didn't want to use my usual name, because, as you see, people think whatever they think, and generally imagine all sorts of things.
Under any name, I've never brought negativity to the site. I've always tried to promote a positive vibe here. I've never bashed or harassed. I've never given anyone a hard time. I might have struck back now and then. I guess I'm not really a turn the other cheek kind of guy. But I've never initiated shit with anyone.
Apparently that doesn't count for much. I've always wanted to help others. In fact, in my real life, my real-world, non-gambling world, that's what I do, I help people. Whether it was posting my own plays, or telling people about sportspickwinners, the motive was always to help others win. I've never had any desire or intention to deceive anyone, have nothing to gain from it, and have pretty much given the other fellow the benefit of the doubt since I've been here.
I understand why ghosting is negative when it's the bashers and harassers who are putting down someone and agreeing with themselves. I thought my way of posting under a second name was basically harmless. I wasn't going after anyone in an all out attack. I was just telling people how they could get some winners.
If I have committed a great crime, well, I guess I have different values than those who have judged me. It does seem that I have worn out my welcome here. I feel that a message has been put out to ask people to refrain from being negative in other people's threads, but I am not certain that this is always the true priority. Anyway, if I'm one of the bad guys, then God help us all.
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I like the site that Wilheim mentioned, sportspickwinners.com, and told the guys there that I would put the word out about them here at the rx. I'm more of a writer than they are, and I really believe in their product, because I have made money using it. Only I didn't want to use my usual name, because, as you see, people think whatever they think, and generally imagine all sorts of things.
Under any name, I've never brought negativity to the site. I've always tried to promote a positive vibe here. I've never bashed or harassed. I've never given anyone a hard time. I might have struck back now and then. I guess I'm not really a turn the other cheek kind of guy. But I've never initiated shit with anyone.
Apparently that doesn't count for much. I've always wanted to help others. In fact, in my real life, my real-world, non-gambling world, that's what I do, I help people. Whether it was posting my own plays, or telling people about sportspickwinners, the motive was always to help others win. I've never had any desire or intention to deceive anyone, have nothing to gain from it, and have pretty much given the other fellow the benefit of the doubt since I've been here.
I understand why ghosting is negative when it's the bashers and harassers who are putting down someone and agreeing with themselves. I thought my way of posting under a second name was basically harmless. I wasn't going after anyone in an all out attack. I was just telling people how they could get some winners.
If I have committed a great crime, well, I guess I have different values than those who have judged me. It does seem that I have worn out my welcome here. I feel that a message has been put out to ask people to refrain from being negative in other people's threads, but I am not certain that this is always the true priority. Anyway, if I'm one of the bad guys, then God help us all.
Best of luck to those of you who have supported me all this while.<!-- / message -->
VoiceofReason101 said:
^^^ is a great post.
Dont know of Telly padding his record and havent looked at his posts with as fine of a comb as last season. I dont believe he would pad his record.
We butted heads here often last season and at this years bash we discussed what was mostly exaggerated misunderstandings.
Mostly it was wild unit betting and thread bumping, as I read alot of his posts.
Still read all of his posts as he quite often has a solid handle on many games. Not sure if hes up or down this year, for I dont count his units...he has had some good weeks and some bad weeks.
He does post games and as long as he and others here are posting and not record padding, excessive attention whoring, and/or posting false info, none of them should be bashed.
If a guy sweeps the board or otherwise has a great week, it should be expected they are going to boast somewhat. If a guy loses and hasnt been an attention whore, bashers should find someone else to bash.
Anyone thats cheating their ytd or otherwise misleading posters will eventually be exposed and bashed.
If anyone is caught with multiple instances of number fudging and there is little doubt that they are purposely doing this, they should be put on post review for a month and a one year probation where if they do it again they are banned for a year IMO. We already have enough problems with touts, the government, and people who criticize our lifestyle, we shouldn't have to worry that one of our own is skimming his record.
I think it is great what husker does. Also think that maybe theRX should pay him to track everyone who posts in the forums. It would be a daunting task assuredly, and I do not know how efficient/time-consuming it would be. But it would be nice to have one person (or if anyone thinks he would have too much power or biases multiple people) keeping tabs on everyones record here.
I think it is great what husker does. Also think that maybe theRX should pay him to track everyone who posts in the forums. It would be a daunting task assuredly, and I do not know how efficient/time-consuming it would be. But it would be nice to have one person (or if anyone thinks he would have too much power or biases multiple people) keeping tabs on everyones record here.
HinesWard86 said:
there IS a tracker forum here that plays and records are monitored by the mods. there is NO reason everyone that posts plays in the sports forums can't post them there. unless they have something to hide. i would really like to hear from members why they don't post in that forum.
MrReb said:
typical tout/fraud response when getting caught with their pants down! thats all they can do is post insults!
hahahahahaah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
reb, you said you use goodhope's service? i guess so, you ARE goodhope!!!!!
how does it feel to be thought of in the same light as all the other scamming services exposed here?
i didn't notice that wasn't nyreb's post. or is this another ghost of his? how about duke snyder?
