First Fidelity being sued

SPIVE · May 16, 2003

Why would First Fidelity feel compelled to even reply here, let alone admit to calling “JK” who they have determined to be deranged…in an attempt to help?

Doesn’t make any sense to me.

Anyway...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> The facts of the situation are:

1. Our casino is completely fair. In blackjack we use 1 deck, and it is randomly shuffled after each hand. I will submit this software for ANYONE who wants to test it.

In fact, I WILL OFFER A $10,000 REWARD TO ANYONE WHO CAN ESTABLISH THAT IT IS ANYTHING OTHER THAN A RANDOM SHUFFLE.

I have 15000 active customers, wouldn't someone else have noticed this by now?
I believe this settles the basis for JK's rant.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Our casino is completely fair…etc., etc." Objection your Honor…these comments are “completely” unsubstantiated. Why all of a sudden the “rewards” and software testing offer? What would such “prove” anyway since the actual games played by the plaintiff at the time of the incident cannot be assured against tampering? Sustained.

Prosecution would also like to submit at this moment such testimony by the Defendant as evidence of FRAUD. In that, advertising a game as a “single-deck” which shuffles the card following "each" played hand misleads the player into believing that the mathematical principles and probabilities of a single-deck are in affect. Please submit such evidence as plaintiff’s exhibit A.

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2. This is a customer who recently pulled a similar scam at Heritage where "I didn't make the plays, someone else must have" was the best he could come up with in trying to shake them down for thousands. Heritage traced the IP to same computer, and he gave up the scam.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Objection your honor…more unsubstantiated, defensive comments, meant to divert one’s focus of addressing the plaintiff’s issues, posing nothing more then an attempted attack upon the plaintiff’s character. Sustained.

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3.After the 400th or so call, JK was told that if he had been serious about a lawsuit, his 400+ phone calls and psychotic behavior would probably ruin his chances. We recommended he get immediate attention, (and I, personally, worried that he was going to jump out a window while I was talking to him) and we called his house, informing the person who answered about his behavior and advising they get him help.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How many advertising calls does First Fidelity make in an hour, day, week, month, or year? Prosecution finds humor in First Fidelity attempting to associate 400 calls with “psychotic” behavior…

The Shrink is called to the witness stand as an expert in this field. Let’s get this straight…if I want to help a deranged individual, I simply call their home and advice whoever answers to assist? This shit should be on Comedy Central.

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I would like to here these tapes of people, "even small children" being threatened, as I was here for the entire scene, and can truthfully state that NOTHING OF THE SORT OCCURRED.
This is simply a disgruntled sore loser, who maxed out his credit cards playing blackjack and is going to extremes to blackmail money. I have no need to threaten anyone. If JK has anything of value (I doubt it), it will be obtained in a libel suit.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No need to hear “threatening tapes” when libel suits are being served-up here…now is there?

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I strongly reccommmend that all other books check for this serial scammer. Contact me using your book's URL and I will forward you the information. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Comforting thought knowing First Fidelity solicits personal information to others upon public forums…after all, is not First Fidelity the “gurus” of solicitation or is this just a new technique they are trying here?

Not sure it will work here First Fidelity, thinking it’s got to be a “hard sell” offering up such things as helpful phone calls to the deranged, rigged card games and libel suits.

I wonder, do libel suits and Rx postings cure the deranged as effectively as phone calls?

Perhaps another call to THE SHRINK?

paulajackson · May 16, 2003

NOBODY EVER ANSWERED MY QUESTION. DOES ANY OTHER BOOK USE THIS SAME SOFTWARE?

Kev · May 16, 2003

What a joke, FF is solid.

Some puke loses 7k playing bj because he's a freakin degenerate. Who cares, thats his problem. Live and learn. Somebody close this thread, its fvcking ludicrous!

jls626 · May 16, 2003

Hey you wanna bees just like that moron suing a casino for losing thats ridiculous! Dealing with FF for 8 years, casino & sportsbook> I'm not a Fuc---- paid advertise like you said. I'm just a good customer who if I lose 7 thousand at black jack it will be in Vegas or AC not on a computer! You can't sue FF , they're in Costa Rica, maybe you should go and serve the subpeonas yourself! There software is up to par in the Casino, I win so i guess they are making mistakes! Its people like you that will try to screw up overseas gambling! Hope other books black list you!

0tohero · May 16, 2003

I have never scammed anyone at heritage or anywhere...how do you scam anyone in our position. I am not going to debate every lie...I am right...I did not use a credit card and haven't in ten years, they did scam me on their system...I had SEVERAL tests done...and they have tried to intimidate me and others with calls...WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT. I cannot let people take advantage. Fortunately, I have enough info about their solicitation, calls, even posts here to do what I have to...If anyone wants to think they are honest on bonuses, casinos, friendly go ahead...I have to do what I have to do...It's not about the money.

Buzzsaw · May 16, 2003

jl,
You may just be a loyal player you may not. I know you post poitive about them with most your posts. I don't have anything against them now that they stopped cold calling my cell phone at 7PM.

But how do you feel about an offshore bookie screaming at a 11 year old girl over this dispute. I mean call the guy at home and tell an 11yr old girl about this guy? Is there any way to justify that? Anyway at all?

jls626 · May 16, 2003

Well If thats the case of calling an 11 year old, remember they weren't calling an 11 yr old. All in all it is screwed up! Negative posting like this can damage a book if its true! I'm not saying its right but I'm sure they didn't know it was an 11 yr old they were talking to! When did he realize that the sftware was screwed up to him, AFTER HE LOST 7 THOUSAND, not while he lost a thousand or two?? I only post good things cause they have been good to me, thats all, wouldn't you?? Yes talking to an 11 year old like that is NOT ACCEPTABLE! Hey I wish him luck in his lawsuit but I don't feel this company is in Jeopardy! Its gonna cost him much more than 7 thousand with lawyers and I don't think he'll gain anything but a headache!

Buzzsaw · May 16, 2003

OK cool.. I don't have any sympathy either for someone who blows 7dimes on according to him was a rigged game. Sounds like the ole fool and his money syndrom kicked in.

But they should apologize for dragging a child into it. I don't know if you have talked to any 11 yr old kids lately but I can tell you that they are very hard to mistake for an adult.

0tohero · May 16, 2003

Buzz, thank you, she is...and they knew it...and everything I said was true. First off...ff harrased me with phone calls every two weeks just to get me into the place...marketing..and they did feel every software test over and over and over...It's not about the money...I have 2500 out on tonights games...it's the principle that you cannot cheat, you cannot threaten and you certainly cannot threaten innocent third parties (multiple times). Other than MLS, who is somehow tied to ff...who thinks they are friendly or can vouge for their software...it is impossible. It's not about the money, its about what you beleave in.

0tohero · May 16, 2003

sorry...should be failed and believe

jls626 · May 16, 2003

I agree, I have an 11 yr old daughter and you are right! Someone should appologize, but if he knew it was FF calling via caller ID and I hope he has one then he should've never let her pick the phone up! How bout settling this bullshit in court and not on this forum. If you win in court then do some bashing, but not cause you think they are cheating you! Unless you were betting a thousand a hand and doubling down how long did it actually take you to figure you were being scammed? I know bout 10 books that would love your action!! I have no sympathy for you! I'm a degenerate loser down bout 3/4 of million since I started betting! and if anyone tells you they're up unless its their first bet they are a liar! Bottom line is what are you sueing for, your 7 thousand back?

truthteller · May 17, 2003

0tohero, it's hard for me to believe you since you lied in the first place by claiming you were and Newport were not 1.

NEWPORT · May 18, 2003

Hey Why is someone using my handle in this conversation.

Why did general or whoever let my handle get so close to someone elses.

I am NEWPORT and I know nothing of this thread.

, nor anyone thinking they are me. And Newport 1 is not me NEWPORT

I am NEWPORT the parlay player, goofy shit. I did a search of one of my old posts and I see my name being thrown around in some rediculoous thread

NEWPORT as always

enjoy the outcomes

0tohero · May 20, 2003

The suit is out for service in Miami...a copy is also being mailed...If this does not work, it will be served by publication....This will be a strong challenge with a strong reward...Gentlemen, they can not get away with their behavior.

0tohero · May 20, 2003

listed as defendants are: Freddy Harris, FF, Richard Wallace KXTA Radio and two John Doe Defendants, if anyone has info about any of the ff guys, their direct ties to New York, it would be appreciated.

Tripio · May 20, 2003

Who cares about this. Othero u are full of %$#%^

UncleButternutts · May 20, 2003

Am i the only one that finds this whole thread to be one big, ugly clusterfuk?

Newbies with all this "info", a new NEWPORT (wtf??) kids being threatened?

Wtf is going on here? Man, i need a drink.

0tohero · May 20, 2003

any further info would be appreciated...Tripio, Uncle...you need not help...

jls626 · May 20, 2003

Ooo,

Where have you been the last couple days, losing another 7 thousand at another casino that you'll sue next! You need to give this a break cause from what I'm reading your crdibility isn't worth anything! Every casino online is rigged to win otherwise they wouldn't be runnuing! You were just at the wrong place at the wrong time!

0tohero · May 20, 2003

JLS...No offense...I will assume that you are a decent guy...but you have been hyping ff all over the place...there is a credibility problem...Now if you are saying that the casino is rigged you agree with me...If you are saying it is ok for ff to solicit teleponically...it is illegal by the 1961 Wire act...and if you think its ok to telephonically threaten kids...well, the DOJ and the police disagree with you on that...the matter is legit and I agree that action is louder than words...I look forward to a judgment, default or not...from there I will look at all the Defendants assets...look to halt ff's ability to market in the states...and attatch any assets of defendants in the states...I will have to trace through credit bureaus and such but I am sure there is a trail.