FBI investigates the St Louis Cardinals for Patriots-esque cheating

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The thread title and misinformation about taping practices is why pats fans have gotten how they are.

What do the cardinals being investigated by the fbi for hacking into another teams computers have anything to do with the pats?

One is an organization that is proven to cheat. The other is one suspected of cheating. That's the correlation. I'm sorry you don't understand.


shhhhhhhhhhhhhh, they have no idea what you're talking about

don't you know Belichick has access to the practice facilities of every team in the NFL and he secretly tapes their practices and that's the type of advantage he needs to win

if you point out to somebody that he was actually taping live games from "unauthorized positions", they look at you funny

To quote the great Willie99...boo hoo
 

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Can we make this thread less about the Patriots' allegations and more about those against the Cardinals?

I don't wanna get this whole argument going. Sorry if my thread title offended anyone. Like it or not, factual or not, overblown or not, your team is associated with sports cheating. I didn't mean anything by it, it's just a fact.

A mod can change the thread title. I don't care.
 

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Can we make this thread less about the Patriots' allegations and more about those against the Cardinals?

I don't wanna get this whole argument going. Sorry if my thread title offended anyone. Like it or not, factual or not, overblown or not, your team is associated with sports cheating. I didn't mean anything by it, it's just a fact.

A mod can change the thread title. I don't care.

+1 Pats fans making it about them and how they're persecuted.
 

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dude, I'm sorry but you wish the Cubs did whatever the Cards continue to do

Hey man. The Pats past is not exactly stellar.
Can you say Rod Rust?

The Cubs are a very up and coming team.
I would not trade the Cubs future for anyone's right now .

They are about where the Pats were when Bledsoe went down.
 

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Didnt want a debate with Pats fans but you put Patriots in the title. What did you expect? If this was the Pats there would already be 25 pages
 

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Why the Astros? A team you're likely to see only a few times every season??? Of course this probably means if it's true they tried to get at every MLB team because singling out just Houston makes no sense.
 

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I'll make a prediction about this. Even if where there is smoke there is fire it just won't become a big story. Baseball doesn't really crossover and become big national discussion anymore.

If this were the Red Sox or Yankees and they were having success then people would care. Some Cubs, Giants, Brewers fans might care but in general I don't see it resonating too heavily.

I don't really see a scandal involving the Cardinals generating much interest
 

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Hey man. The Pats past is not exactly stellar.
Can you say Rod Rust?

The Cubs are a very up and coming team.
I would not trade the Cubs future for anyone's right now .

They are about where the Pats were when Bledsoe went down.

Wood and Prior are the best 1 - 2 punch in baseball
Steve Bartman
Billy Goats
Last World Series Win? 1908
lost 7 straight world series, last appearance 1945
last post season appearance 2008
last post season win 2003

those dudes need to do something

steal signals, steal bases, grow the grass tall or better yet, hack into the Cards computer system

a Cubs fan bashing the Cards is akin to a Jets fan bashing the Pats, "just say no", just don't doit
 

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So the Patriots didn't tape the Rams?:think2:
No
There was one disgruntled running back who accused them of this but provided no proof whatsoever.
 

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+1 Pats fans making it about them and how they're persecuted.

I'm sorry, did you read the thread title?

tell me why those words were chosen?
 

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Wood and Prior are the best 1 - 2 punch in baseball
Steve Bartman
Billy Goats
Last World Series Win? 1908
lost 7 straight world series, last appearance 1945
last post season appearance 2008
last post season win 2003

those dudes need to do something

steal signals, steal bases, grow the grass tall or better yet, hack into the Cards computer system

a Cubs fan bashing the Cards is akin to a Jets fan bashing the Pats, "just say no", just don't doit

I think I need to go to bed, cause I think you lost your mind.
Good night Willie
 

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If you think about it, if it's true the story should become pretty damn big but I just don't think people care about the Cardinals on a national level, even with all their success.

FBI involved, hacking. Someone might go to jail. Better hope there are no Cubs fans in there.
 

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I'm sorry, did you read the thread title?

tell me why those words were chosen?

I already explained why those words were used. It wasn't to take a sly jab or strike up this tired ass conversation. It was because this sounded like something the Patriots would do.

I would apologize for the fact that other people (aka "haters") equate the Patriots to cheating on sports, but it's not my fault. It's the fault of the organization you idolize and the shady shit they have done, so you're just gonna have to ignore it or deal with it. Or argue against it til you're blue in the face, but no one else is really hearin' it so you're wasting your breath. Apparently this is the path you've chosen. Keep fightin' the good fight. You're so persecuted, your boys are so hated, your organization so misrepresented. Oh the injustice.
 

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Wood and Prior are the best 1 - 2 punch in baseball
Steve Bartman
Billy Goats
Last World Series Win? 1908
lost 7 straight world series, last appearance 1945
last post season appearance 2008
last post season win 2003

those dudes need to do something

steal signals, steal bases, grow the grass tall or better yet, hack into the Cards computer system

a Cubs fan bashing the Cards is akin to a Jets fan bashing the Pats, "just say no", just don't doit

Yes we need to do "something", just not something like this. The something I'd rather do is develop the #1 farm system in MLB and build a contender and eventually a dynasty. Most in baseball would agree that's the path the Cubs are on.

And I wasn't bashing the Cardinals for anything they have done on the field. They are a benchmark of on-the-field achievement. It's just an ironic story cause every announcer and Cardinal fan in the world will scream from the highest mountaintop that they do it "the right way". And now this.

That's what makes the story humorous to those of us that follow the NL Central closely and personally know many many Cardinals fans.
 

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I dunno what they found in the Astros database but when they met the Sox in the series all they found was an ass whoopin.
 

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I already explained why those words were used. It wasn't to take a sly jab or strike up this tired ass conversation. It was because this sounded like something the Patriots would do.

I would apologize for the fact that other people (aka "haters") equate the Patriots to cheating on sports, but it's not my fault. It's the fault of the organization you idolize and the shady shit they have done, so you're just gonna have to ignore it or deal with it. Or argue against it til you're blue in the face, but no one else is really hearin' it so you're wasting your breath. Apparently this is the path you've chosen. Keep fightin' the good fight. You're so persecuted, your boys are so hated, your organization so misrepresented. Oh the injustice.

PS I have nothing against the Patriots, they are one of my favorite teams to bet on. They get it done on the field, period, and most Sundays I find myself rooting for them. This past SB was one of the biggest wagers I have made so far this year and it was on NE.

So I don't think it's fair to dismiss my comments as "hating". I'm just providing you with an accurate non-Patriot viewpoint. I know it makes you mad that this is how others view your NFL team, because maybe it's a little unwarranted or whatever. Truth be told I don't really care about the exact details of all that shit, I believe where there is smoke there's fire. And I believe the fact that you don't even need to cheat to win makes it even dumber that y'all do what you (allegedly) do.
 

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Why the Astros? A team you're likely to see only a few times every season??? Of course this probably means if it's true they tried to get at every MLB team because singling out just Houston makes no sense.

I read something to the effect of an ex-Cardinals front office worker now is in player development/scouting for the Astros. Or something along those lines.
 

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When ever those 3 letters are attached to a story you know you have a problem.

You be in trouble St.Louis....LOL
 

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