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[spooks]

they lost a lot in hockey this past season (their first season of releasing them to the public after paper playing previous years picks)
touted big time how good their hockey picks were before the season

basketball they won this year
*one day they released a play about an hour before a game started then it was losing with about 5 minutes left to play in the game so they sent out an email saying they weren't counting that play in their record because they released it so late... at the time the team was not covering by about 20 points
*they released 49 basketball picks one day but told players to bet 1/10 of normal wager(not sure why they did this-breaking from how you normally do things isn't good)

they lost a lot in football so discontinued their football picks

most of their soccer picks are odds -250 or higher

baseball has started good this year
the moneyline odds are usually high (Yankees -185 yesterday)
this year they are 4-1 on moneyline plays and 2-3 on runline plays
betting 100 RL 200 ML they are +243

another note on them is they use pinnacle odds which most US players can't come close to

in my opinion the service is worth it for the baseball and basketball picks and maybe the soccer picks
be ready to deal with stuff like the basketball game mentioned above though

 

[Hip2Bsq]

On their site they have EVERY play from 08 in a spreadsheet that I can attest to its accuracy as I played them off and on last year.

I am only speaking for MLB The ML plays will always be high chalk and they are used to offset the RL should the pick win by only one run.

They started the 66/33 at some point around June last year. Prior to that they would play the RL with the worst odds of the day,(for the most part) in other words, the game that was going to pay the least amount of money if it won.

 

[mrstein]

So with all that being said, are they a solid service or just another scam tout ??????

 

[bigugly]

Sounds a little bit scammy...but that doesn't mean there isn't value in their service. Personally, one year doesn't mean a lot, and 2 doesn't mean a whole lot either, especially since they're pretty low volume. That said, I prefer to be able to see records at least 3 years back, or have the records at least be statistically significant.

I'm going to guess they'll be money this year if you follow them in MLB.

 

[Pepi]

I've heard plenty of things about him, I think his name is Frank P. or something isn't it. I get emails from his site and I think I remember him bragging about an "underground" system their working on and I think they mentioned "Plus Line" Sports. If anyone has a STRONG recomendation please let me know. Thanks!

 

[seamanspilot]

plusline

I have followed this site since it first came about. Last year played them when I needed some help.
There best sport is baseball and they do win.However,its a long season grind but if you stay with there selections you should be ok.

They are 5-1 plus $480 using there moneyspread, of course you use what

amount you want and results will be adj. accordingly.

I will follow for a few more days, and then jump in on there service.

good luck

 

[mrstein]

So far they seem Legit.............

Time will tell.

 

[spooks]

record as of today 4/25

betting $200 on moneyline each pick
10-2 +$691

betting $100 on run line each pick
5-7 -$90

overall +$601
cost of MLB season package $497 so we are ahead $104

 

[spooks]

updated record after ML win & RL loss on 4/26

betting $200 on moneyline each pick
11-2 +$834

betting $100 on run line each pick
5-8 -$190

 

[mrstein]

Keep it coming Spooks..................

 

[spooks]

updated record after ML loss & RL loss on 4/27

betting $200 on moneyline each pick
11-3 +$634

betting $100 on run line each pick
5-9 -$290

overall +$334
lost $110 last week and started this week off with a loser hno:

this time last year they were +$2340 so they aren't doing very good

 

[mrstein]

Funny on their site they claim 11 wins - 3 loses total ??????

 

[spooks]

the record on their site is the ML record (deceptive tout practice 101)

updated record after ML loss & RL loss on 4/28

betting $200 on moneyline each pick
11-4 +$434

betting $100 on run line each pick
5-10 -$390

overall +$34
maybe they just got lucky last year :>(

 

[mrstein]

Spooks

What time of the day do they release their games at ???

Is it usually the night before or the day of and if its the day of is it early in the day or 10 mins before game time ??

Thanks

 

[spooks]

they always post early between 8 and 10 am est time

 

[Hip2Bsq]

They have changed the way they make the picks this year. Tuesdays play SHOULD have been on the Phillies or the Cubs which one both the RL and ML I understand part of the St.Louis pick in that Mcann was out and the Braves have had trouble scoring runs their last 10, but I am used to their picks being a dominant pitcher vs a weak lineup and facing a weak pitcher. Reyes was lights out on Tuesday.

I think they were trying to make a pick for better odds rather than take the game with worse paying RL odds the way they did before.

 

[spooks]

yea i didn't like the picks the past 2 days but i played them and lost

now they are changing how they bet again
last year they did the same thing when they were betting only runlines they decided to redo their record and do 66 ML 33 RL
now they are betting 100% ML on most picks
they changed their record on their website to indicate they are +$936 when they are only +$34

i hate when bs touts do this crap

todays pick makes no sense according to how they pick games..

 

[fraser411]

yea i didn't like the picks the past 2 days but i played them and lost

now they are changing how they bet again
last year they did the same thing when they were betting only runlines they decided to redo their record and do 66 ML 33 RL
now they are betting 100% ML on most picks
they changed their record on their website to indicate they are +$936 when they are only +$34

i hate when bs touts do this crap

todays pick makes no sense according to how they pick games..

The old bait and switch routine. They brag about the great money they made last year. Chances are no one made that if they changed their strategy midseason. Now they are lying about being up almost $1K when we all know they are barely winning anything. Figure in price of the service and we all are losers.

Why doesn't someone ask James about the "favorable" results posted at their website?

Now that they have our money, they are scrambling to duplicate last year's record. Of course they cannot because it was a record made looking in the rear view mirror. Hindsight is always 20/20.

I personally am passing on their games until they show me they can win. I played the Giants into their Dodger pick on Monday and won. I did not like the St. L. play yesterday but played and paid for their lack of offense.

Good luck to all that follow, but I think they are less than advertised!!!JMO

 

[WatchingNWaiting]

I have an account there and did just that. I asked him. I was satisfied with the answer and I do not believe it is a deceptive technique. Those that have a "cup half full" mentality perhaps could view things in this way, but if you understand what they have done there is really nothing to view that is deceptive...you just perhaps don't understand. If something isn't working just right and a change is made...why is this a bait and switch. It is a switch top a more profitable way.


You speak of the Bait and switch lsat year...what happened when the switch was made? I will answer...profit! Look at what happened with the new format they used, the profits turned out very nicely. Heck, they ended the year with over 70% correct picks...what is wrong with that?

I made money there!

Perhaps before slanderously making statements about services, why not just ask the source and get the facts first. Dont you think it is deserved?

They earned your trust to signup do you not think that the same trust can be given to make profitable adjustments as well...AS THEY HAVE SHOWN TO BE ABLE TO DO IN THE PAST?

They have won 11 games and lost 4. SOunds like to me they are headed in a great direction.

JMO!!

 

[WatchingNWaiting]

Perhaps the best thing to do is simply monitor their posting in the file they use to see how the performance on the new format they use goes...that is what I would do to get the best opinion of the service.