Schemes are cyclical in sports. You think the offensive style Auburn runs was invented just a few years ago? It was a 100 year old offense. Bill Snyder started using it in....gasp....the 90's and all they've done is start running it out of shotgun. Teams are running the old veer option out of the shotgun and pistol. It all comes back around. Today's option run teams have deep seeded roots. That kind of option would still work. First off, you'd be the only team running it. The problem is, the high school level almost dictates the flow of the college game. You'd have a hard time finding an I-option QB today. You could groom one but it's a timing offense.
Schemes are cyclical in sports. You think the offensive style Auburn runs was invented just a few years ago? It was a 100 year old offense. Bill Snyder started using it in....gasp....the 90's and all they've done is start running it out of shotgun. Teams are running the old veer option out of the shotgun and pistol. It all comes back around. Today's option run teams have deep seeded roots. That kind of option would still work. First off, you'd be the only team running it. The problem is, the high school level almost dictates the flow of the college game. You'd have a hard time finding an I-option QB today. You could groom one but it's a timing offense.
How can you say players are stronger/faster in football and MMA but that doesn't count in basketball? When Jordan played there were a lot more white guys playing too
One of the main reasons no one runs the option in the SEC is because most players looking to get into the NFL don't want to run that offense. Oregon "sort of" does it but not like Nebraska does.
Objective or not, Nebraska would have killed this years or last years Alabama team. No one on that team would have scared that defense and an "ok" QB would have gotten steamrolled and been on his back all day. Nebraska couldn't win against SEC teams until they recruited speed and some questionable characters. Once they had that with their schemes unstoppable. They didn't start losing because all of a sudden the offense didn't work, they stopped getting good players. Teams knew exactly what they were going to do and couldn't do anything about it.
All IMO
Obviously but it is foolish to think a modern day top tier SEC team is going to have trouble with Nebraska's offense. They might compete but in general the teams are way better now. Football isn't really a skill-heavy sport at most positions. It is about speed, power, agility all of which are greater now. Combine #s will corroborate this.
Yeah players can transcend era a lot easier than teams. Obviously a guy like MJ or Deion or Wilt would be fine today. That doesn't mean they get to take Jud Buechler, Luc Longley or John Paxson with them.
Out of all the sports, football players from past eras would translate to now the least. I mean, yeah a lot of them would just get on the programs that guys are on now and be fine, but that isn't really what we're discussing.
The difference between a 4.4 and 4.6 is massive at that level.
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/colfootball/teams/best.html
Quick google finds this list of best CFB teams ever. Notice a theme?
Saying a team is the best ever is more what they did when they played. Not about who we need vs aliens if it ever came to it.
Quick google finds this list of best CFB teams ever. Notice a theme?
Saying a team is the best ever is more what they did when they played. Not about who we need vs aliens if it ever came to it.
Yes I know sports evolve as far as scheme and strategy but we're getting bogged down when we talk about that stuff as it relates to why Nebarska would or wouldn't dominate.
The overall point is you put 2015 Ohio State vs 1994 Nebraska there is going to be a gap in terms of measurable speed, size and strength. This is going to add up.
You seem like you understand this for the most part, so what are we debating?
There are other variables, like in College basketball the best teams are all 19 year olds now and 20 years ago the best teams were all 21-22 year olds. This is worth a lot and of course I wouldn't say the best CBB teams now are better than past teams because that sport has changed and is more diluted now because of guys going pro early, but that dynamic isn't in play in CFB.
Met Rob Zatechka at P.O. Pears in Lincoln several years ago and asked him what the deal was with LP and Rob just looked at me and pointed to his head indicated LP had mental issues and lots of them. I will say this though, If you didn't know the man LP at all and what he'd done at Nebraska one could make an argument he was the best athlete to ever come out of Nebraska. No question. He was that fuckin' good. That one incident spiraled his life at Nebraska and was the domino effect of everything that went wrong afterwards. Just one bad thing after another. I do believe LP in that gang members had it out for him and he wanted nothing to do with them and I do believe if that gang member wasn't killed, LP would have been or badly hurt.
You are wrong. I really don't even need to get into it. People are smarter now, everyone would hit his knees today. Tommie Frazier would not last a season as every down fake qb. This is ridiculous. They never have had a qb to even be a 3rd string NFL guy. There are high school teams that would beat them and Miami 2001 could name the score. Dorsey at least started an NFL game.
You have 3 or 4 decent NFL players at best. Most Nebraska players suck like most Alabama sucks because it is more coaching than skill.
An option quarterback who doesn't sniff an NFL roster is in charge of the greatest team in college football history? A great offensive line if not the greatest I can give you.
They are the last of old school college football. Line up in the I formation and punch you in the mouth. This is like a 1940's guy telling you how great an Army fullback was in 1942 vs. Adrian Peterson. The game evolves and Nebraska never did. I liked those Nebraska teams too.
They are the last of old school college football. Line up in the I formation and punch you in the mouth. This is like a 1940's guy telling you how great an Army fullback was in 1942 vs. Adrian Peterson. The game evolves and Nebraska never did. I liked those Nebraska teams too.
No way, today's players are babies. I'd take any of the great 70's/ 80's teams, and using the rules from the 70's, the great teams of today wouldn't even be able to finish the 2nd half due to injury.
those husker teams from the mid 90's would smoke these pass happy clown teams of today, using the rules from the mid 90's.
Tis is especially true of the NFL.
Well, it looks like he will be there a while longer....
[h=1]Former NFL Player Lawrence Phillips Charged With Murder[/h]
<time datetime="2015-09-02">September 02, 2015 4:18 PM ET</time>
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Lawrence Phillips, seen here in a 2005 photo, has been charged with murder while serving a prison sentence for assault and other charges.
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He was already serving a lengthy prison sentence; now onetime St. Louis Rams running back Lawrence Phillips is being charged with murder in the death of his cellmate. Phillips was convicted of assaulting his girlfriend and other charges in 2006.
The new charges against Phillips, 40, stem from the death of his fellow inmate at the Kern Valley State Prison in California this past spring. Officials are accusing Phillips of strangling Damion Soward, 37.
The AP reports, "Phillips is serving a sentence of more than 31 years. He was convicted of choking his girlfriend and later of driving his car into three teens after a pickup football game."
Phillips played in the NFL for three seasons; he had been a first-round pick out of the University of Nebraska.
During his college career at Nebraska, Phillips was an integral part of two national championship teams, in 1994 and 1995. But he also embroiled the school in controversy over its handling of his off-field behavior. When Phillips became an NFL player in 1996, he was on probation for assaulting his ex-girlfriend.
During his NFL career, Phillips ran for 1,453 yards. Perhaps his most important role in the league was as a catalyst that led the St. Louis Rams to trade another running back, Jerome Bettis, to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
[h=1]Former NFL Player Lawrence Phillips Charged With Murder[/h]
<time datetime="2015-09-02">September 02, 2015 4:18 PM ET</time>
Bill Chappell
Lawrence Phillips, seen here in a 2005 photo, has been charged with murder while serving a prison sentence for assault and other charges.
Anne Cusack/AP
He was already serving a lengthy prison sentence; now onetime St. Louis Rams running back Lawrence Phillips is being charged with murder in the death of his cellmate. Phillips was convicted of assaulting his girlfriend and other charges in 2006.
The new charges against Phillips, 40, stem from the death of his fellow inmate at the Kern Valley State Prison in California this past spring. Officials are accusing Phillips of strangling Damion Soward, 37.
The AP reports, "Phillips is serving a sentence of more than 31 years. He was convicted of choking his girlfriend and later of driving his car into three teens after a pickup football game."
Phillips played in the NFL for three seasons; he had been a first-round pick out of the University of Nebraska.
During his college career at Nebraska, Phillips was an integral part of two national championship teams, in 1994 and 1995. But he also embroiled the school in controversy over its handling of his off-field behavior. When Phillips became an NFL player in 1996, he was on probation for assaulting his ex-girlfriend.
During his NFL career, Phillips ran for 1,453 yards. Perhaps his most important role in the league was as a catalyst that led the St. Louis Rams to trade another running back, Jerome Bettis, to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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