just recieved an email from my oldest bother who along with one of my other bros. arrived in the Ukraine the other day specifically for the Dutch game v. the hasselhoffs....he wrote me telling me how insane the vibe and people are...the younger of my 2 bros. was at the england-french match(he stayed out of trouble, but was pissed out of his brains, per usual)...they met up today to start getting lit up..my oldest brother hasn't been to a football match in 24 years..he was last in germany when the Dutch captured their only ever medal at Euro '88..he was detained along with about 500 others before the match with england ...said he would never step foot ever again in a stadium due to the animals that the english were..but couldn't pass up the chance to see our boys stomp some german ass...so he hopped a flight from sydney, australia and hooked up with the family....don't know what it was about his enthusiasm..but he sold me....this tourney is ridiculous...gimme the Dutch at +200 to beat the hasselhoffs....cheers