Journey you are leaving out the 20 rebounds
I am a huge college hoops follower... I actually said a few years back I would have taken Wade over Carmello and people called me crazy... But you have to look for that IT factor and to this day Wade has it and Carmello doesn't.... AND IN NO WAY AM I SAYING CARMELLO Is not unreal but he isn't wade...
That being said Durant has "IT" if any of you watched the Okie State game he would just come down the court and shoot down the stretch and made every big bucket... What a game...
Durant is the best player in college hoops...
Durant should be the number one choice by far. He can handle the ball, post up, dribble, shoot, play defense, and rebound what more can you have? Give me him any day of the week... over Oden who has a lot to learn.... I am just saying Durant outclasses Oden easily...
Also my feeling on the NBA today is that the big low post guys that can't run real well are not a good choice... With the way that the NBA runs now you got to take the big guy with the 7-4 wing span I believe and can run and shoot from the outside. It is a new game man... not the same old half court game...
Give me Durant... no question
I am a huge college hoops follower... I actually said a few years back I would have taken Wade over Carmello and people called me crazy... But you have to look for that IT factor and to this day Wade has it and Carmello doesn't.... AND IN NO WAY AM I SAYING CARMELLO Is not unreal but he isn't wade...
That being said Durant has "IT" if any of you watched the Okie State game he would just come down the court and shoot down the stretch and made every big bucket... What a game...
Durant is the best player in college hoops...
Durant should be the number one choice by far. He can handle the ball, post up, dribble, shoot, play defense, and rebound what more can you have? Give me him any day of the week... over Oden who has a lot to learn.... I am just saying Durant outclasses Oden easily...
Also my feeling on the NBA today is that the big low post guys that can't run real well are not a good choice... With the way that the NBA runs now you got to take the big guy with the 7-4 wing span I believe and can run and shoot from the outside. It is a new game man... not the same old half court game...
Give me Durant... no question
carmelo isnt wade
and wade isnt james
as for durant/oden, its so hard to say because oden still isnt even using his strong hand. he is borderline dominant with his off hand. thats scary. both are still raw. durant is every bit as good as the hype. oden WILL be as good as the hype. but right now, durant is the better player. but that means nothing to nba GMs
and wade isnt james
as for durant/oden, its so hard to say because oden still isnt even using his strong hand. he is borderline dominant with his off hand. thats scary. both are still raw. durant is every bit as good as the hype. oden WILL be as good as the hype. but right now, durant is the better player. but that means nothing to nba GMs
By the way Prod disagree... Think Wade has it and Lebron doesn't...
This is why I think that... When the playoffs came around Shaq didn't play great and I would have taken the Cavs supporting class last year over Miami's and call me crazy...
But that game Wade had against Dallas where he scored like 80000 points in a row and took the game over reminded me so much of Mike it was unreal and of course i like Mike I am from Chicago...
I hadn't seen a guy do that and have the look in his eye since Mike... it was unreal and on that day that turned the whole series around and that is why Miami won it... The key was Wade was such a terrible three point shooter his whole life for god sakes.. and he gets to the playoffs and he shots nearly 40% knocking down big three after big three and that is where it became unreal and it showed he had IT... Look you can call me crazy man but Magic was not as good as mike but his numbers overall may have been...
Wade plays defense at a top tier level and Lebron doesn't yet...
If I were starting a team today I would go out on the limb and draft Wade... because of the IT factor.... Wins mean more to me then anything... and wins without Shaq playing well means even more... He didn't need Shaq... Shaq needed Wade... He is IMO the best player in the league because of that playoff game...
and that game against detroit where he scored the final 17 points of the game and won it at the buzzer... those things have not been seen in this league since Mike... and I just can't get over that so many love Lebron but Wade wears the ring... GL MAN
This is why I think that... When the playoffs came around Shaq didn't play great and I would have taken the Cavs supporting class last year over Miami's and call me crazy...
But that game Wade had against Dallas where he scored like 80000 points in a row and took the game over reminded me so much of Mike it was unreal and of course i like Mike I am from Chicago...
I hadn't seen a guy do that and have the look in his eye since Mike... it was unreal and on that day that turned the whole series around and that is why Miami won it... The key was Wade was such a terrible three point shooter his whole life for god sakes.. and he gets to the playoffs and he shots nearly 40% knocking down big three after big three and that is where it became unreal and it showed he had IT... Look you can call me crazy man but Magic was not as good as mike but his numbers overall may have been...
Wade plays defense at a top tier level and Lebron doesn't yet...
If I were starting a team today I would go out on the limb and draft Wade... because of the IT factor.... Wins mean more to me then anything... and wins without Shaq playing well means even more... He didn't need Shaq... Shaq needed Wade... He is IMO the best player in the league because of that playoff game...
and that game against detroit where he scored the final 17 points of the game and won it at the buzzer... those things have not been seen in this league since Mike... and I just can't get over that so many love Lebron but Wade wears the ring... GL MAN
See guys that is where you lose me...
He will never put up Lebrons numbers... He isn't big enough to board like him... but I think he passes better to be honest... And I think Lebron is a hell of a passer...
Also Wade is the best driver in the NBA... don't say Lebron because Wade gets to line more then anyone...
I watched Mike play every night for like 6 years... and I watch Wade and it is just something that I see that reminds me so much of him. He turns it up in the clutch big time... He is a better player when the game is on the line and that is really saying something because Lebron is a hell of a player at the end of games...
But Wade has that Swagger and his Final run just showed me that this guy is the best player to play in this league since Mike... and yes it was one run but look back at his other Playoff games... in his first year in the league he had two game winning shots with time expiring as a rookie...
This year will be huge in the playoffs... If Wade plays like that again I don't think there is going to be a question about who is better... Wade just has "IT" and I don't know how to explain it... It is just something I saw in Jordans eyes something Vince Young had that other guys didn't.... IDK man hard to have it but Wade does... Lebron Is more talented... but there were guys that were more talented then Jordan... He was just that guy that never seized to amaze you when the spot light was on. Wade and him are very similar but Wade doesn't play at that level on the defensive side of the ball like Mike did yet. I am not disrespecting Lebron...
Just this year in the playoffs just turn off the sound on your TV and watch wade in the 4th quarter... Look at his body language just look at him... It is unreal... His demeanor is MJ scary...
Lebron is a great player but I am not sure he is that guy...
He will never put up Lebrons numbers... He isn't big enough to board like him... but I think he passes better to be honest... And I think Lebron is a hell of a passer...
Also Wade is the best driver in the NBA... don't say Lebron because Wade gets to line more then anyone...
I watched Mike play every night for like 6 years... and I watch Wade and it is just something that I see that reminds me so much of him. He turns it up in the clutch big time... He is a better player when the game is on the line and that is really saying something because Lebron is a hell of a player at the end of games...
But Wade has that Swagger and his Final run just showed me that this guy is the best player to play in this league since Mike... and yes it was one run but look back at his other Playoff games... in his first year in the league he had two game winning shots with time expiring as a rookie...
This year will be huge in the playoffs... If Wade plays like that again I don't think there is going to be a question about who is better... Wade just has "IT" and I don't know how to explain it... It is just something I saw in Jordans eyes something Vince Young had that other guys didn't.... IDK man hard to have it but Wade does... Lebron Is more talented... but there were guys that were more talented then Jordan... He was just that guy that never seized to amaze you when the spot light was on. Wade and him are very similar but Wade doesn't play at that level on the defensive side of the ball like Mike did yet. I am not disrespecting Lebron...
Just this year in the playoffs just turn off the sound on your TV and watch wade in the 4th quarter... Look at his body language just look at him... It is unreal... His demeanor is MJ scary...
Lebron is a great player but I am not sure he is that guy...
Without the refs Wade still doesn't have a ring. So throw the ring out. Wade is a very good guard that happens to play in Miami where Shaq and the league wanted a title.
Wade is great, but let's not go overboard.
And Jordan was no Magic or Bird either. He couldn't beat them when he was young and had to wait till they retired to win his championships. And the championships were league aided at that!
Wade is great, but let's not go overboard.
And Jordan was no Magic or Bird either. He couldn't beat them when he was young and had to wait till they retired to win his championships. And the championships were league aided at that!
themanej2001 said:
a lot of people feel lebron could go down as the best 'finisher' on the break in nba history.
im not one for hyperbole, but i definitelty see where theyre coming from.
as far as being a better passer, there is simply no way.
lebron sees the game on another level. when you really watch him, he is always one pass ahead.
this kind of discussion is kind of unfair because its not right to put down the other guy. both are big time players.
but theres lebron .... then wade .... then carmelo ... and then bosh
with a strong delineation between each 'level'.
wade definitely has outplayed carmelo in his 3 yrs in the league. he deserves props for turning himself into a superstar instead of just a star.
but hes still not lebron
HAHA you are insane? You have conspiracies to everything you say... you ruin every thread you come into...
Yeah Michael was no Magie or Bird? I agree he was better he was the greatest player ever to put on a uni... please stop coming in and ruining threads with your conspiracy theories man
Yeah Michael was no Magie or Bird? I agree he was better he was the greatest player ever to put on a uni... please stop coming in and ruining threads with your conspiracy theories man
You are comparing him to Jordan? Well lets put it this way...what are the MVP standings right now? Where is Wade in the MVP voting? Jordan won how many? You cannot discard the regular season because that is where the majority of games are. You cannot totally focus on the playoffs. Wade is a better driver and unstoppable when he gets going. No way is he as good a passer as Lebron. No way. Plus he does not play defense as well. Great player, YES. Comparing him to Jordan is a bit much in my view.
Wade only saw that the refs were going to call a foul every time he drove to the basket if he missed. Sometimes Wade didn't even get touched (just like Jordan) and still got the calls when he missed.
I'm sorry, but if you think that is how basketball is played then enjoy your fake basketball games. Call the games right and then we will find out who the better players really are.
I'm sorry, but if you think that is how basketball is played then enjoy your fake basketball games. Call the games right and then we will find out who the better players really are.
Lets agree to disagree Prod... I really feel when it is all said and done Wade will go down as a better player...
Also his leadership skills... He makes his guys want to play defense and play hard... something Michael did as well...
Lebron will be judged by his team because he has to make them take on his personality... Only time will tell man but I think when it is all said and done... Wade will have more titles and be considered on the clutch level with Jordan... and that is a list of its own...
Lets wait and see man it should be fun to watch? So no need to argue it anymore... because lets just sit back and enjoy while two of the greatest players ever battle it out for the title of the best of his era... should be awsome
Also his leadership skills... He makes his guys want to play defense and play hard... something Michael did as well...
Lebron will be judged by his team because he has to make them take on his personality... Only time will tell man but I think when it is all said and done... Wade will have more titles and be considered on the clutch level with Jordan... and that is a list of its own...
Lets wait and see man it should be fun to watch? So no need to argue it anymore... because lets just sit back and enjoy while two of the greatest players ever battle it out for the title of the best of his era... should be awsome
