Drafting Carson Wentz will set your NFL team back at least 7 years

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team sucks. blame wentz but even if you get rid of him somehow with that salary your still stuck with a coach who makes terrible calls. he won a super bowl, lost his assistants and has sucked since. i would imagine his days are numbered as the head coach and the only thing keeping him still there is the super bowl a few years ago.
 

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team sucks. blame wentz but even if you get rid of him somehow with that salary your still stuck with a coach who makes terrible calls. he won a super bowl, lost his assistants and has sucked since. i would imagine his days are numbered as the head coach and the only thing keeping him still there is the super bowl a few years ago.
Wentz didn't win that super bowl ... it was Nick foles
 

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I got it at -5, normally I wait still game day, but I bet everything early due to leaving the state for the holiday, otherwise i would have got screwed with 6.5.

Timely trip!
 

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i was. i think peterson is getting a free pass because of the super bowl. he should be on the hot seat

Agreed he's getting a bit of a pass, but not sure it's a free pass. You win a super bowl with your backup quarterback you've earned a pass for awhile. It will wear off soon though. Hell Nagy won coach of the year in 2018 and he already looks like a lame duck.
 

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Let Sean Payton get have him then we will see if he’s a bust or not .
My money is on not .

Would love to have him , Darnold, or Jimmy G next season .
 

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Let Sean Payton get have him then we will see if he’s a bust or not .
My money is on not .

Agree.

I know he's made some bad throws this season and made some bad decisions. That's on him. But if anyone has really watched Eagles games this season, they will see that his offensive line is absolute garbage. He's under siege almost every drop back. And for the most part, his receivers just aren't getting open with any regularity. And the loss of Zach Ertz, and Goedert for a long stretch was also a killer. I think a good number of his bad decisions are from pressing. Just trying to do too much.

I'm still not selling my Wentz stock..
 

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Let Sean Payton get have him then we will see if he’s a bust or not .
My money is on not .

Would love to have him , Darnold, or Jimmy G next season .

Rank them Chop, the top 3 you would like to have if they're all there for you. Don't think about money or draft picks for now.
 

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Agree.

I know he's made some bad throws this season and made some bad decisions. That's on him. But if anyone has really watched Eagles games this season, they will see that his offensive line is absolute garbage. He's under siege almost every drop back. And for the most part, his receivers just aren't getting open with any regularity. And the loss of Zach Ertz, and Goedert for a long stretch was also a killer. I think a good number of his bad decisions are from pressing. Just trying to do too much.

I'm still not selling my Wentz stock..

All that might be true. But the bigger problem is even when his team is healthy and his weapons are there...he still has looked like shit the last couple years. He had a decent run to get into playoffs last year, all against really bad teams.

I have no idea how he got so bad. He had a really solid rookie season.. followed by a great 2nd season where he improved in every facet. His accuracy improved, deep ball improved dramatically, pocket prescense and feel, everything seemed great. All those facets seemed to drop back in 2018 and 2019 , people made excuses , injuries, etc. Now in 2020 totally healthy he has fallin off a cliff in every facet! Now accuracy, no pocket feel, poor decision making. It can't all be blamed on his teammates.

On Philly talk radio there was some really damning stats. Only like 6 QB's have ever had a yearly QB rating drop off as bad as Wentz's this season. Those QB's included almost all big names, Peyton Manning, Brett Farve and a couple stars. In each case it was their last season before retirement!
The only player in the group who wasn't a superstar was Mark Rypien, and he only started another 6 games in his career after the drop off. So in the history of football no player with a drop off like this has ever turned it around. Few players have ever even been able to far so far so fast and it's almost always a former great giving one least season only to find they were totally shot.
 

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But the bigger problem is even when his team is healthy and his weapons are there...he still has looked like shit the last couple years

This really isn't true. The Eagles were decimated with injuries on the offensive side of the ball last season and he basically took the team on his back to the playoffs.

He's been really bad this season. But again, for most of the year the offense has been missing key weapons. They got some receivers back for the past couple of games, but still missing key offensive lineman and Ertz.
 

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Guy is something like 7-25 vs winning teams all time. He kinda stinks.
 

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He was bad two years ago too. He missed the first two games in 2018. Can back and looked pretty shitty all year, despite having not terrible numbers. When he sat out around week12 or whatever with the back fracture, the fans were glad!! They were excited Foles was back because Carson just wasn't good. Then last year, 2019, he just wasn't good until the end of the year, and even that was just barely beating 4 shit teams at the end. Against good teams he has almost no wins. I'm a Wentz supporter, and I haven't given up hope entirely. But in reality he hasn't been good since 2017.
 
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This really isn't true. The Eagles were decimated with injuries on the offensive side of the ball last season and he basically took the team on his back to the playoffs.

He's been really bad this season. But again, for most of the year the offense has been missing key weapons. They got some receivers back for the past couple of games, but still missing key offensive lineman and Ertz.

Please don’t educate Enfuego....he is special.....
 

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Please don’t educate Enfuego....he is special.....

Haha. Well I'm not saying Wentz is great. He sucks right now. One of, if not the worst QB1 in the league.

I'm just saying he's got loads of talent. And the deck has been stacked against him the past couple of seasons. He's shown he can be a good starter in this league before. And I believe he will show that at some point again. Maybe not MVP level. But top 10-12 in the league. And if you are in the top 3rd of starters in the NFL, then your team can win with that. That's all.
 

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