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With all due respect, I wouldn't call one point a "middler's dream". Yes, the game landed on 7 points but honestly the chances of that happening are pretty slim. Over the course of a season it might happen 2-3 times on games that one bets. I just don't see that 1 or 2 points is a "good middling opportunity".
Without giving away too many secrets, a college football game in this point spread range(N Dame-Stanford) will land on the #7 around 5.8% of the time(counting OT). -6.5 -05 and +7.5 -05 is definitely positive+. At -110, it's about break even. I had +8 -05(played on Monday) and -6 -05. The math doesn't lie. Good luck
 

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Since when does having the best documented winning record in the history of sports gambling make you a Pied Piper leading sheep to the slaughter? I don't mean to pick on you, BC, but you came into this thread spouting some bs without having the first clue of what you're talking about, and deserve to get taken to task as a result. You have internet, try using the Google every once in a while.

FYI (though you're apparently not interested in long term winners) he and I do pretty much the same thing when it comes to handicapping, but he's added historical trends in the last year or two to try and tighten up his win%. Over the last couple of years that I've seen his NFL plays they've been very close to mine -- and by reading his write ups you get the basic gist of what he does to set his lines.

At first I thought it was ridiculous that Dr. Bob doesn't watch games or a fan, and purely lets his system/computer makes picks. After second thought, its great that his picks don't have any bias in them.

Obviously his record speaks for itsself
 
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So you are saying that around 5% of the time a game will land on 7 in that spread range. That's if you bet EVERY game at that spread. Like you said, after juice I don't see anyway possible that this could be a "middler's dream". Middles are for halftime if you have one side that you are almost sure is going to cover and bet the other at the half.

Without giving away too many secrets, a college football game in this point spread range(N Dame-Stanford) will land on the #7 around 5.8% of the time(counting OT). -6.5 -05 and +7.5 -05 is definitely positive+. At -110, it's about break even. I had +8 -05(played on Monday) and -6 -05. The math doesn't lie. Good luck
 
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It hit 7 in this game but how many times is that going to happen? It took Stanford scoring twice late to get there. For all the times you lose this "middle" (which would be almost all the time) you would have to pay juice. I just think it's a stretch to say this is such a great strategy.

Crossing 7 is important with ND money out there. If you get ND -6.5 even and Standord +7.5 even (I'm sure it was out there), that is. Iowa dropped 4 points. Not sure about the rest.
 

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If ur laying -105 or ev then i think its hella worth it. I had ov 48 & un 57 in the nt/fiu game. 2g's each way & whatta ya know it landed on 52! Sad part is that it only brought me back to even for the week. Middling is a gambling invesment to me. Sometimes it pays off & sometimes you miss it by the skin of your balls. :ohno:
 

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So you are saying that around 5% of the time a game will land on 7 in that spread range. That's if you bet EVERY game at that spread. Like you said, after juice I don't see anyway possible that this could be a "middler's dream". Middles are for halftime if you have one side that you are almost sure is going to cover and bet the other at the half.
hogsnatcher, you are not "getting it." Using one the worst middling scenarios(-6.5 -05 +7.5 -05) there is(at 5%), you would still make money long term. Out of 100 games at $100 each side(Stanf-N Dame), you would win $1000(5 wins) and lose $475(95 losses). I had -6 -05 and +8 -05, which increases my return greatly(chance to side two #s). I never said EVERY game, I said the Stanf-N Dame game had a 5.8% chance of landing on 7. My data on where certain college games will fall is much more precise than the average Joe. How about these two from last week. 1) Iowa +10 -10 and Mich St -6 -05 2) Tulsa -13.5 -05 and Rice +17.5 -05. Sorry, I didn't mean to ramble, I'm off to figure out what the chance of OU-Tex has of falling on 7! :103631605 Good Luck with your wagers.
 

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Of all the service plays, this is the ONLY one that I give 2 shits about. I don't follow his plays blindly (unless they are 4 stars or higher then I do) but if I like a play and he likes them as well, I will put more money on them.

One of the few guys that knows what he's doing. We can all lose but again, the only picks I look for in the service plays thread.
 

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Midding is only worth it if you bet thousands and thousands of dollars on games. If done correctly the percentages turn slightly in your favor. Good luck living that kind of life in front of a computer screen checking live odds all day, trying to get the best numbers. Wonder if people actually enjoy themselves doing this.
 

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"I said the Stanf-N Dame game had a 5.8% chance of landing on 7". bellyputter.

belly, That means that it has a 94.2% of NOT landing on 7, right?

Why in heavens name would you involve yourself on plays that have a 94% of not happening, not occuring, nada? Can't see the return on investment being positive in the long run. For every 100 middles you bet you are going to hit 5.8 say 6 middles. At 200 dollars a middle thats $1200 in and $940 out (100 total bets-6 winning bets=94 losing bets=$940 in juice) woops never mind it is profitable... in the long run, but you have to bet all 7point middles it might not be worth the lifestyle change. It be worth it if you could get down say 50 grand a game.

excuse the math if wrong
 

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"I said the Stanf-N Dame game had a 5.8% chance of landing on 7". bellyputter.

belly, That means that it has a 94.2% of NOT landing on 7, right?

Why in heavens name would you involve yourself on plays that have a 94% of not happening, not occuring, nada? Can't see the return on investment being positive in the long run. For every 100 middles you bet you are going to hit 5.8 say 6 middles. At 200 dollars a middle thats $1200 in and $940 out (100 total bets-6 winning bets=94 losing bets=$940 in juice) woops never mind it is profitable... in the long run, but you have to bet all 7point middles it might not be worth the lifestyle change. It be worth it if you could get down say 50 grand a game.

excuse the math if wrong
Occams, I was showing one of the worst middling examples(-6.5-10 +7.5-10) there could be(I would never use it!), just to show it was slightly profitable. How about at -05 on each side, or even at what I wagered it at(-6 -05 +8 -05). Some middles I play cross 3 or 4 #s(some KEY #s) and over many seasons it can be a lifestyle change. All I have been doing lately in this forum is defending myself constantly when it shouldn't be necessary. People don't get it, I'm trying to help! Good Luck
 

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belly,

I get it, and thank you for your info. When you put in original play early, do you cap the game itself, or are you making educated guesses at which numbers will move?

Also, when buying back, do you leave your original side out there for more than you buy back?

Thanks,

HW
 

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