Do you believe in RE-INCARNATION ?

[Dave007inVegas]

For all the intellectual advancements man has made we need to acknowledge a few things.

Jesus was nothing more than a charismatic leader who's life ended badly.
That puts him up there with the likes of Jim Jones, Martin Luther King Jr.,
Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini et al.

The Bibal is the greatest selling fiction novel of all time.

No one knows what happens when you die other than you cease to exist.

Religion is man made and responsible more deaths than the plague.

For as many well-rounded people that there are an equal number of idiots exist.

Humans are their own worst enemy.

 

[SportsBookData]

For all the intellectual advancements man has made we need to acknowledge a few things.

Jesus was nothing more than a charismatic leader who's life ended badly.
That puts him up there with the likes of Jim Jones, Martin Luther King Jr.,
Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini et al.
This is completely false. Jesus was a far more advanced soul than any of those names mentioned. Jesus had no desire for money, power or material items, his only goal was to help people awaken their soul to the truth.

The Bibal is the greatest selling fiction novel of all time.
About 50% of the modern day Bible's story is true, however, it is written in metaphors and parables few can understand. Most of the characters depicted are nothing more than metaphorical references used to explain something far greater and complex.

No one knows what happens when you die other than you cease to exist.
We don't cease to exist... we simply exit one reality and enter another. Our souls are immortal.

Religion is man made and responsible more deaths than the plague.
Yes, this is true. Disease is also man-made too and is responsible for even more deaths than religion.

For as many well-rounded people that there are an equal number of idiots exist.
Awake and unawake are more appropriate comparisons.

Humans are their own worst enemy.
Yes, always have been but only because they have forgotten who they are.

 

[rwjr]

For all the intellectual advancements man has made we need to acknowledge a few things.

Jesus was nothing more than a charismatic leader who's life ended badly.
That puts him up there with the likes of Jim Jones, Martin Luther King Jr.,
Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini et al.

The Bibal is the greatest selling fiction novel of all time.

Yeah ...... you keep telling yourself that moron , it's not my Ass that will be burning in hell because you refused to believe ... but it's o.k because God did give us 'free will' to either accept his son's sacrifice on the cross or to reject it .

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Yeah ...... you keep telling yourself that moron , it's not my Ass that will be burning in hell because you refused to believe ... but it's o.k because God did give us 'free will' to either accept his son's sacrifice on the cross or to reject it .

 

[Dave007inVegas]

For all the intellectual advancements man has made we need to acknowledge a few things.

Jesus was nothing more than a charismatic leader who's life ended badly.
That puts him up there with the likes of Jim Jones, Martin Luther King Jr.,
Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini et al.
This is completely false. Jesus was a far more advanced soul than any of those names mentioned. Jesus had no desire for money, power or material items, his only goal was to help people awaken their soul to the truth.

The Bibal is the greatest selling fiction novel of all time.
About 50% of the modern day Bible's story is true, however, it is written in metaphors and parables few can understand. Most of the characters depicted are nothing more than metaphorical references used to explain something far greater and complex.

No one knows what happens when you die other than you cease to exist.
We don't cease to exist... we simply exit one reality and enter another. Our souls are immortal.

Religion is man made and responsible more deaths than the plague.
Yes, this is true. Disease is also man-made too and is responsible for even more deaths than religion.

For as many well-rounded people that there are an equal number of idiots exist.
Awake and unawake are more appropriate comparisons.

Humans are their own worst enemy.
Yes, always have been but only because they have forgotten who they are.

[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]I don't intend to argue with you. I was just callin em as I see em.[/FONT]

 

[rwjr]

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[SportsBookData]

I don't intend to argue with you. I was just callin em as I see em.

No arguments here my brother. I respect your perspective 100%.

 

[rwjr]

It's NOT "New Age baloney", it's your inability to understand what you are actually reading. Your interpretation of your quote "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" is proof of this. You think this quote means literally through Jesus himself as if he is God or a gatekeeper... wrong .

Jesus is not a way among many ( as many new agers like to say ) but the ONLY way to the father ! NOT buddha , not krishna , not some Indian yogi , not Mohammad ...... NO ONE but JESUS , the above is what it means .... it's simple & too the point

 

[rwjr]

" I am the way the truth and the life . no one comes to the father except through me " , straight & too the point ....... no B.S. , no hidden messages , no mystical mystery to search for in that quote .

 

[sportsm60]

" I am the way the truth and the life . no one comes to the father except through me " , straight & too the point ....... no B.S. , no hidden messages , no mystical mystery to search for in that quote .

I agree with you. Everyone here is a mature adult and has made their choices on what they want to believe. Nobody will know 100% if they are right or wrong until after they pass on. Personally I have faith in what I believe and if it ends up that I am wrong it has not cost me anything.

 

[SportsBookData]

Jesus is not a way among many ( as many new agers like to say ) but the ONLY way to the father ! NOT buddha , not krishna , not some Indian yogi , not Mohammad ...... NO ONE but JESUS , the above is what it means .... it's simple & too the point

Again, it is clear you do not understand what you are reading or understand who God and Jesus is... if you did you would understand that Jesus, Krishna and Buddha were all Christ-ed. Christ is a Consciousness and not human... achieving it is a spiritual experience and not a material or physical one. And I also understand it may be just as difficult for you to understand what consciousness even is. It's okay... the most important thing in all of this is that YOU BELIEVE. It doesn't matter if you believe Jesus is your "savior" or Kermit the Frog... as long as you believe in something. I wish you luck on your journey but always remember your own reference to the Muslims... it is the extreme behavior of a few based on their lack of understanding that drives them to act out the way they do... your own behavior has a lot of the same characteristics of these extreme Muslims you reference which, in my view, makes you just as dangerous. Peace brother!

 

[rwjr]

the most important thing in all of this is that YOU BELIEVE. It doesn't matter if you believe Jesus is your "savior" or Kermit the Frog... as long as you believe in something.

really dude ? I think you should just stop now ..... your only making an :bigone: OUTTA yourself . The above is just 1 reason why no sane person should take ANY spiritual advice from you whatsoever

 

[rwjr]

I'd like 2 apologize to sportsbookdata for personally attacking him in this thread . It's obvious one of three things happened here 1 . He is a new ager who is blinded from the truth 2 . He is purposely deceiving others or 3 . He is suffering from a mental illness ( & I'm not taking a cheap shot at you here ) I have a female friend who means the world too me & she is schizophrenic , I wish the best for you sportsbookdata ... I really do . I will keep you in my prayers & hope that someday you will find the truth . Best regards - robert

 

[SportsBookData]

I'd like 2 apologize to sportsbookdata for personally attacking him in this thread . It's obvious one of three things happened here 1 . He is a new ager who is blinded from the truth 2 . He is purposely deceiving others or 3 . He is suffering from a mental illness ( & I'm not taking a cheap shot at you here ) I have a female friend who means the world too me & she is schizophrenic , I wish the best for you sportsbookdata ... I really do . I will keep you in my prayers & hope that someday you will find the truth . Best regards - robert

The difference between you and me is that I have experienced God firsthand through my NDE. This experience has resulted in an incredible download of information you, and most, would never understand. But I can assure you it is much of the same information Jesus was given during his own soul's awakening... esoteric knowledge that only a small percentage have access too and this is where all truth is. My NDE experience is very similar to most other NDEs... these similarities is causing science and religion to change their own perspectives on what they were taught. I only came here to share a very small piece of my personal experience and I only shared it because I was intrigued by the title "Reincarnation". My goal is not to sway anyone from their beliefs but rather to share a perspective from a real personal experience... a perspective you can't offer. Instead, you are quoting from a book that, by now, most people understand has been re-written and manipulated many times over the centuries. However, you continue to believe it in its entirety. You have also demonstrated to me, and perhaps a few others here, that you really don't understand what you are reading. Frankly, you offer nothing here and the only things you post are nothing more than a reflection of your own misunderstandings and ignorance on the topic. You can save your sympathy wishes for someone else, perhaps even yourself, because the box you have yourself in will NEVER allow you to really understand the truth. Again, you will only ever understand the truth of yourself, your existence and God if you have a very broad and deep understanding of certain Philosophies and Astrology. The Bible itself is nothing more than astrological metaphors explaining something far greater than you understand. if you think I am wrong ask yourself one simple question... why does the Vatican have two of the world's largest observatories? A simple-minded man like you probably thinks they are looking for Jesus to appear in the sky (as I laugh)... the truth is because, like the Indigenous people, they understand everything you need to know about your existence and God is "in the stars". I am not "New Age" or even "Religious"... labels create the boxes that prevent you from seeing truth.

 

[rwjr]

www.vaticanobservatory.va

 

[fballgenius]

Here’s a couple of Bible references to reincarnation. Jesus said that the return of the prophet Elijah must precede his own return. John the Baptist was identified as Elijah reincarnated. Also stated is: He who kills with the sword MUST die by the sword. He who leadeth into captivity MUST be lead into captivity.

 

[rwjr]

Here’s a couple of Bible references to reincarnation. Jesus said that the return of the prophet Elijah must precede his own return. John the Baptist was identified as Elijah reincarnated. Also stated is: He who kills with the sword MUST die by the sword. He who leadeth into captivity MUST be lead into captivity.

Problem with that stud .....elijah never died , he was taken to heaven like Enoch (who did not see death) & according to reincarnation ...... one must first die before being reincarnated !

 

[rwjr]

If God / jesus doesn't judge anybody then how do you explain this , the JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST ( for believers ) & The GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT ( for non - believers )

Still waiting 4 sportsbookdata 2 explain this ?

 

[rwjr]

- sportsbookdata said " You have also demonstrated to me, and perhaps a few others here, that you really don't understand what you are reading. Frankly, you offer nothing here and the only things you post are nothing more than a reflection of your own misunderstandings and ignorance on the topic. " [w/QUOTE]
Coming from a guy who said ' you can believe in Jesus OR the Easter bunny OR anything else you want , as long as you believe in something that's what's important ointer:

 

[AlistairCookie]

Imagine in being almost 2020 and people still basing their life around an anonymously written book, whose main character was SO famous throughout all the land that literally no one who ever met him ever wrote a single word about, and whose authors didn't know that washing your hands would prevent the spread of disease, or that the earth was round.