DHS Intelligence Report Warns of Terror Threat - Not from ISIS, but a similar foe... Right Wing Extremists

[SheriffJoe]

"right wing extremists" :neenee:

If you wanted to know how wacko the left has become, especially during the Obama regime, all you had to do was tune in to the recent Democrat debates. VERY SCARY shit.

"Right wing extremists" didn't exist during the Bush years and all references of this political term will be wiped after the next Republican is sworn into office.

Unfortunately for sane people the Saul Alinskys are still in charge till 2016.

 

[The Guesser]

Kurzman and Schanzer...great.

Just from a pure numbers standpoint do you honestly believe that over the past 35 years that there are more victims of right wing extremism or Islamic extremism? A 15 minute google search will give you the answer but here is a hint: more people were killed by El Qaeda on one day than 35 years of right wing extremist murders.

But hey, what do the families of 3,000 people killed in one day know while they cry behind their keyboard.

I can provide you with actual numbers but hey, if you want to believe the Kurzman whatever report generated by our government, have at it, I thought you were a little more open minded.

Dude, this is a study with Law Enforcement, not something made up by Kurzman, not something generated by the US Gov't. There are multiple studies which point the same way. We're not talking out the last 35 years. 9/11 could have probably been prevented if the POTUS at that time had listened to warnings. But again, not the point. The point is what is current in the last year or so, and Law Enforcement believes Extremist, Right Wing Anti Gov't Nuts are the bigger threat. I'm willing to dispute them and say they are equal. Can you? Or are you so rigid, that you have to minimize the extreme right wing sicko threat, for some strange reason?

 

[mountain]

Dude, this is a study with Law Enforcement, not something made up by Kurzman, not something generated by the US Gov't. There are multiple studies which point the same way. We're not talking out the last 35 years. 9/11 could have probably been prevented if the POTUS at that time had listened to warnings. But again, not the point. The point is what is current in the last year or so, and Law Enforcement believes Extremist, Right Wing Anti Gov't Nuts are the bigger threat. I'm willing to dispute them and say they are equal. Can you? Or are you so rigid, that you have to minimize the extreme right wing sicko threat, for some strange reason?

I'm pretty well read, open minded and travel quite often but I question the study(ies). I can assure you that the chances of my life being taken away by a disgruntled employee or islamic terrorist is far greater than that of a a cowboy bitching about land rights or a neo nazi klan member pissed because I am catholic.

Islamic terrorist want to destroy our entire western civilization simply because we exist and there attacks are offensive in nature. Right wing threats come from disgruntled, weak minded individuals who feel they have been wronged by our country. Those idiots in Oregon, Waco and Ruby Ridge would have withered away if not confronted.

Big difference in the two in my opinion but hey, I think for myself and don't believe everything I read.

 

[The Guesser]

I'm pretty well read, open minded and travel quite often but I question the study(ies). I can assure you that the chances of my life being taken away by a disgruntled employee or islamic terrorist is far greater than that of a a cowboy bitching about land rights or a neo nazi klan member pissed because I am catholic.

Islamic terrorist want to destroy our entire western civilization simply because we exist and there attacks are offensive in nature. Right wing threats come from disgruntled, weak minded individuals who feel they have been wronged by our country. Those idiots in Oregon, Waco and Ruby Ridge would have withered away if not confronted.

Big difference in the two in my opinion but hey, I think for myself and don't believe everything I read.

I live among many Muslims, and don't feel in the slightest bit of danger from Islam. But if some sicko Gun Nuts came into my neighborhood and started Brandishing their weapons, and railed against the US Gov't, I wouldn't feel so secure. You can question the studies. I have no reason to, because they make sense.

 

[mountain]

I live among many Muslims, and don't feel in the slightest bit of danger from Islam. But if some sicko Gun Nuts came into my neighborhood and started Brandishing their weapons, and railed against the US Gov't, I wouldn't feel so secure. You can question the studies. I have no reason to, because they make sense.

Some gun nuts coming into your neighborhood or some islamic warriors on a mission from Allah. You believe the study, I believe my gut.

Time will be the judge of which one of us (or neither) is correct.

 

[SheriffJoe]

I live among many Muslims, and don't feel in the slightest bit of danger from Islam. But if some sicko Gun Nuts came into my neighborhood and started Brandishing their weapons, and railed against the US Gov't, I wouldn't feel so secure. You can question the studies. I have no reason to, because they make sense.

 

[mountain]

Some gun nuts coming into your neighborhood or some islamic warriors on a mission from Allah. You believe the study, I believe my gut.

Time will be the judge of which one of us (or neither) is correct.

By the way, I hope we are both wrong

 

[The Guesser]

By the way, I hope we are both wrong

As do I, and we are. As long as Law Enforcement is diligent against all sick extremist threats.

 

[ScottL]

Some gun nuts coming into your neighborhood or some islamic warriors on a mission from Allah. You believe the study, I believe my gut.

Time will be the judge of which one of us (or neither) is correct.

When he looks up at the scoreboard and sees Islamic Warrior 62, Gun Nut 9 and realizes he has to pay the book he took Gun Nut +17.5 with.....
maybe then the haze will finally clear for him.









;-)

 

[Acebb]

The point is what is current in the last year or so, and Law Enforcement believes Extremist, Right Wing Anti Gov't Nuts are the bigger threat. I'm willing to dispute them and say they are equal. Can you? Or are you so rigid, that you have to minimize the extreme right wing sicko threat, for some strange reason?

"In the last year or so" is a singular survey conducted more than 16 months ago.

Note: you do not care how the survey was conducted, it doesn't matter to you.

Note: you do not care what % of law enforcement is represented in this singular survey, it doesn't matter to you.

You suggesting these are "equal" threats is laugh until you cry funny.

You are a sick, sick, person. A completely dumb, delusional, and dishonest pile of shit.

 

[Acebb]

Meanwhile, terrorism of all forms has accounted for a tiny proportion of violence in America. There have been more than 215,000 murders in the United States since 9/11. For every person killed by Muslim extremists, there have been 4,300 homicides from other threats.



In other words, from every death by Muslim extremists, there are 2,150 blacks killing someone.

He left that part out.

 

[ScottL]

The definition of terrorism, if I were to explain it to a 6 year old would be a threat by a person or group that they intend to murder people who behave differently from them until they submit to behaving like them. And "behave" usually refers to "observe G-d in our way." Almost all worldwide terrorists attacks are killings in the name of religion accompanied by blackmail.

"As a follower of the prophet I will kill the non-believers until they submit to the will of the prophet." The 9/11 planners and hijackers believed and behaved this way, as did the San Bernadino killers, the Paris killers, and as does the "Islamic Republic of Iran."

Terrorist acts in this day and age are primarily committed by Islamists in the name of Islam. Not by people who sit in a building and refuse to leave because Uncle Sam pissed them off. And while the guy who fired at the FBI and died can be classified as a terrorist the other protestors cannot be, unless and until they turn guns on innocent people.

 

[Acebb]

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Police shot and killed a man who stormed into a central Ohio restaurant wielding a machete and randomly attacking people as they sat unsuspectingly at their dinner tables, authorities said.

Four people were injured in the brutal attack Thursday evening at Nazareth Restaurant and Deli, a Mediterranean restaurant in Columbus. The victims were taken to an area hospital and were expected to recover.

CBS News has learned that investigators have identified the suspected attacker as Mohammad Barry.

 

[The Guesser]

:aktion033:aktion033Cliven Bundy arrest 2 years later: strategy or serendipity?

Courtroom drawing of Cliven Bundy consulting with assistant federal public defender Ruben Iniguez at his first appearance in U.S. District Court in Portland, February 11, 2016. Sketch by Abigail Marble.
Kristyna Wentz-Graff | The Oregonian/OregonLive
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By Laura Gunderson | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on February 13, 2016 at 8:32 AM, updated February 13, 2016 at 4:40 PM

SHOWDOWN IN BURNS

The takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge came to an end with more than two dozen people rounded up on federal charges from more than 10 states.
One of the surprise arrests came when Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, father ofoccupation leader Ammon Bundy, stepped off a plane in Portland, apparently on his way to bolster support for the Oregon protesters.
Until then, the figurehead of the anti-government movement had faced no criminal fallout from his own armed standoff in 2014 with federal agents.
For critics of his particular brand of gun-toting populism, Bundy's jailing was two years late. The reasoning goes that the inaction allowed his sons to spread the family's gospel against federal government dominion.
Why the wait? they ask.
Bringing in the Bundy patriarch was probably part strategy and part serendipity, say politicians, academics and police experts.
His arrest in the Nevada siege and the arrest of so many tied to the refuge occupation signaled a federal crackdown on the militant cause.
"Illegal acts such as occupying federal property in a violent manner – armed -- to deprive employees or citizens access to those facilities will not be tolerated in the United States," Greg Bretzing, the special agent in charge of the FBI in Oregon, said at a news conference Thursday just hours after the final Malheur protesters surrendered.
"I hope that message has gotten out clearly," he said, "that kind of activity has consequences and those consequences will be visited upon those people who carry out those activities."

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Academics in Nevada say they've been waiting awhile to hear such strong words.
They couldn't understand how Cliven Bundy and others could escape repercussions for pointing guns and exhibiting other aggressive behavior toward federal rangers who had come to seize cattle that the rancher had grazed for decades on public land without paying fees.
While many could accept that the rangers had to back down when faced with 400 armed militants from across the West, they couldn't fathom why arrests didn't come swiftly afterward.
"Many Nevadans would say, 'It's about time,'" said Eric Herzik, professor and chair of the University of Nevada-Reno's political science department.
"But why has Bundy been treated as above the law?" he said. "The feds have shown incredible restraint -- perhaps to the point of consternation by folks who don't see eye to eye with the Bundy gang."
In a report four months after the ranch confrontation, the U.S. Homeland Security's Office of Intelligence and Analysis warned that many militants viewed the standoff as "a defining victory over government oppression."
The analysts said it could galvanize some people to act. The report linked several crimes -- including the shooting deaths of two Las Vegas police officers -- to those who helped at Cliven Bundy's ranch and predicted future violence was likely, especially against government officials and law enforcement.
The federal complaint filed as part of Bundy's arrest at Portland International Airport provides more details about what went down in 2014 and why federal rangers backed off.
"Some of these gunmen took tactically superior positions on high ground, while others moved in and out of the crowd, masking their movements behind other unarmed Followers," Joe Willis, an FBI agent out of the agency's Las Vegas office, wrote in the complaint. "The most immediate threat to the officers came from the bridges where gunmen took sniper positions behind concrete barriers, their assault rifles aimed directly at the officers below."
Bundy's supporters had a tactical advantage, he wrote, and they also outnumbered officers 4-to-1.
"Officers withdrew rather than risk the firefight that was sure to follow if they engaged the snipers," Willis said.
The complaint, filed in federal court the day after Cliven Bundy's Wednesday night arrest, charges him with conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, assault on a federal law enforcement officer, carrying a firearm in relation to a crime of violence, obstruction of justice and interference with commerce by extortion.
If convicted, Bundy, 69, could face up to five years in prison on the conspiracy charge, up to 10 years on the obstruction charge, up to 20 years in prison on the assault interference charges and a mandatory minimum consecutive seven years on the firearm charge. He could also face fines of $250,000 per count.
The complaint also mentions four alleged co-conspirators in the 2014 standoff who aren't named but based on the allegations, they appear to be Bundy's sons, Ammon and Ryan, as well as self-styled Montana militiaman Ryan Payne and Pete Santilli, an online talk show host from Ohio.
All four of those men have been indicted in the 41-day takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Harney County that began Jan. 2 over the imprisonment of two local ranchers and federal land management policy.

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Former law enforcement officials say just as federal rangers didn't want to get in the middle of a firefight at the 2014 standoff, they likely wanted to avoid launching what could become a gun battle if they tried to arrest Cliven Bundy at his 160-acre ranch.
"If there's a conflict, you don't want to resolve it with a confrontation," said Danny Coulson, who served as special agent in charge of the FBI in Oregon from 1988 to 1991 before becoming the agency's deputy assistant director in charge of terrorism operations. He now runs a security consulting business in Texas.

"Many Nevadans would say, 'It's about time,' but why has Bundy been treated as above the law?" said Eric Herzik, political scientist from Reno
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"I have done a lot of tactical operations and the best option is to be patient and to get them isolated," he said.
It's not unusual to take time to build a strong case, as well as build the confidence among targets that they can move around without fear of arrest and speak freely on social media, experts said.
The FBI seems to have drawn from the same page of the playbook on both Cliven and Ammon Bundy's arrests, Coulson and others said.
Police had allowed occupiers to come and go from the refuge in the first 25 days of the standoff. On Jan. 26, after announcing on social media that they planned to go to Grant County to the north for a community meeting, Ammon Bundy and other takeover leaders left in two cars for the 100-mile drive.
About 20 miles outside of Burns, on an empty and forested stretch of U.S. 395 in a canyon filled with deep snow, state police and FBI agents set up roadblocks.
Ammon Bundy and Ryan Payne, both planners of the occupation, were arrested.State police shot Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, a spokesman for the occupiers, when he ran from them and reached into his jacket where he had a loaded handgun, the FBI said.
In a news conference after the arrests, the FBI's Bretzing addressed why authorities had chosen that moment for the arrests.
"In any operation there's a group of leadership that's running the show, so to speak, and at this juncture it appeared those in a leadership position would be off the refuge and traveling elsewhere," he said. "We took the opportunity to effect the arrest at that time."
After those arrests, Cliven Bundy grew increasing vocal in support of the remaining occupiers and called on others to join the movement. He, too, "traveled elsewhere" as he made the flight to Portland from Nevada – a move he'd announced on social media.
A Facebook post on the Bundy Ranch page earlier that day read: "WAKE UP AMERICA! WAKE UP WE THE PEOPLE! WAKE UP PATRIOTS! WAKE UP MILITIA! IT'S TIME!!!!! CLIVEN BUNDY IS HEADING TO THE HARNEY COUNTY RESOURCE CENTER IN BURNS OREGON." That's what the occupiers called the wildlife refuge.
A certified letter sent the week before to the sheriff in Harney County under Cliven Bundy's name had demanded: "Remove all state and federal policing agents out of Harney County." It declared that "We the People" would retain possession of the refuge.
He was arrested at the airport -- a location that provided protection for agents because he couldn't carry weapons on the flight.
"This was an opportunistic approach," said Tung Yin, a professor at Lewis & Clark Law School who specializes in criminal justice.
"If you put yourself in the shoes of government and the FBI, in terms of what they knew back in 2014 and what they thought might happen if they rushed in," he said, "the likelihood of another Ruby Ridge or Waco is possible."
They had to balance that, he said, against the potential for copycats or that the anti-government movement would build steam.
"It's hard to fault the government either way in a situation like that," he said. "There's no clear-cut right answer and a lot of ways one move could backfire and the other move could backfire in different ways."
Yin and law enforcement officials pointed out that one of the risks in waiting on charges out of Nevada was a loss of evidence or witnesses – but neither of those were likely to happen considering the potential case involved dozens of federal agents who would be eager to take the stand.

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Still, critics of the Bundy family and its anti-authoritarian message said they're not sure whether the arrests will stall the movement that brings together self-styled militia and patriot groups with varied philosophies and backgrounds from across the United States – though predominately in the West.
"For the last two years we have monitored and seen the aftermath of Bunkerville, Nevada, turn into a swift moving fire across the West," said Ryan Lenz, senior writer for the Southern Poverty Law Center.
And while the radical right often struggles to regroup when leadership is lost, he said, the time these groups have had to organize may make it easier for an heir apparent to step in.
Lenz and others can already tick off the names of supporters who they think might fill that role and they continue to monitor their rhetoric on social media.
Yet they also acknowledge that the elder Bundy's shoes will be hard to fill.
The father of 14 presented a dichotomy of grandfatherly folk hero and outlaw cowboy who appealed to disparate groups -- from the disillusioned and distrustful paramilitary types to the ranching families frustrated for generations by perceived government overreach.
"The FBI is clearly hoping to put a cap on this and shut it down for good," Lenz said. "Yet the Bundys are not the only ones critical to the growth of this rampant ideolology. I wouldn't be surprised if these arrests – Ammon, Ryan and now, Cliven -- don't send the movement into a fury."

 

[GasMan]

And yet the loser liberals support the burning down of Ferguson Missouri by democratic losers....not one mention of terrorism for months.

 

[The Guesser]

And yet the loser liberals support the burning down of Ferguson Missouri by democratic losers....not one mention of terrorism for months.

Tell you what Gassy. You show me one post where I supported the Burning down of Ferguson, and I'm gone forever. But if you can't, you're gone forever. Deal?
Since I already know it's no guts, no deal, just stay down, and stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[superbeets]

[h=1]Machete attacker who stormed Israeli-owned Ohio restaurant and slashed four was investigated by FBI for radical Islamist views four years ago[/h]

• Mohamed Barry from Guinea attacked people at the Nazareth Restaurant
• Stormed into Columbus eatery on Thursday slashing diners at their tables
• Four people were injured in the attack but are expected to recover
• The 30-year-old suspect fled the scene and was later fatally shot by police
• FBI investigated Barry four years ago for expressing radical Islamic views

By REGINA F. GRAHAM and HANNAH PARRY and KHALEDA RAHMAN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 22:16, 15 February 2016 | UPDATED: 00:24, 16 February 2016


A machete-wielding man who stormed an Ohio restaurant and slashed diners at their tables had previously been investigated by the FBI over his radical Islamist views.
Mohamed Barry, 30, from the Republic of Guinea, West Africa, was shot dead by police during the rampage at Nazareth Restaurant and Deli, a Mediterranean restaurant owned by an Israeli man in Columbus, on Thursday.
Four people were injured in the attack and had to be rushed to a nearby hospital where they are expected to recover.
The FBI have joined the investigation as law enforcement officials warn that 'this incident has the hallmarks of the type of so-called 'lone wolf' terrorist attack that they have been working to stop,' CBS News reported.

Mohamed Barry (pictured left, and right with his fiancee) from the Republic of Guinea, West Africa, was shot dead by police during the rampage at Nazareth Restaurant and Deli on Thursday

Now it has been revealed Barry was investigated by the FBI four years ago over concerns about his radical Islamist views, NBC 4 reports.
The 30-year-old had moved from Guinea to the United States in 2000. Originally living in Philadelphia, he moved to Ohio two years ago to look for work, his uncle Mamadou told the channel.
He was just three weeks away from getting married when he carried out the horrific attack.


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His family was left stunned by the attack.
'Everybody's surprised,' his uncle told NBC 4. 'The whole family's surprised.'
Mamadou, who declined to give his last name, described his nephew as a quiet, softly spoken man whom he had never seen get into a fight.
He added that he had never seen a glimpse of the side of a man who would storm into a restaurant and attack innocent diners.
But Hany Baransi , owner of Nazareth Restaurant and Deli, branded Barry 'a thug.'

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Four people were injured in the attack at Nazareth Restaurant and Deli, a Mediterranean restaurant in Columbus, on Thursday

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Men stand outside as officers inspect the scene inside the Columbus, Ohio, restaurant where a man attacked several people with a machete on Thursday

'This guy [Barry] is a thug,' he told NBC 4. 'We've been working hard. We have great people, a great team over here. We're not going to let some thug like that ruin our day.'
According to CBS News, investigators are still running down leads trying to determine if the attack was somehow tied to terrorist organizations.
Columbus police Sgt. Rich Weiner said of the attacker: 'There was no rhyme or reason as to who he was going after.'

On the day of the attack, police say Barry walked into the restaurant, had a conversation with an employee and then left.
He returned about a half hour later and approached a man and a woman who were sitting just inside the door at a booth and started the attack.
Officers said employees and patrons tried to get the man to stop.
'Some of the patrons there started throwing chairs at him just trying to get him out of there,' Weiner said.

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The restaurant owner is Hany Baransi (above) and is an Arab Christian from Israel. He explained that the only reason he was not in the restaurant is because he went home that evening with a migraine



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Barry eventually fled the scene in a white car and led police on a short chase.
Officers forced the man off the road a few miles away and when he got out of his car, police said they tried unsuccessfully to use a stun gun on him.
Weiner said: 'At that point he had a machete and another knife in his hand and he lunged across the hood at the officers.'
An officer then shot and killed the attacker. Authorities say no officers were hurt during the shooting, according to WBNS 10TV.
According to WBNS, the four victims injured in the attack have been identified as William Foley 54; Neil McMeekin, 43; Gerald Russell, 43 and Debbie Russell, 43.
'Obviously we were targeted because there's a whole bunch of businesses around here,' Baransi , Arab Christian from Israel, told the Columbus Dispatch.
'I'm the only foreigner. I am the minor, minor, minor of the minority. So nobody likes me.'
He explained that the only reason he was not in the restaurant is because he went home that evening with a migraine.
'The one night I leave early this happens,' Baransi told the newspaper. 'I feel so guilty for leaving my people.'


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[superbeets]

Typical, investigated for his radical Islamist views, and let out into the community to ultimately bring terror to those who were just minding their own business enjoying a meal. Wake up !

Rot In hell filth

The families are always 'surprised'. That story is getting really old...and really unbelievable.

.The feds always let out this type of info, after the story's no longer headlining. Orders from the White House.

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But don't carry gun. Its better to be a victim. Signed Barak Obama

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[superbeets]

 

[Acebb]

[h=1]Suspect captured in deadly shootings at Montgomery Mall, High Point HS, Giant store[/h]

3 dead and guess what he looks like?

A Tea Party anti-government loon working for DHS, of course.