A choke job? Are you kidding, he hit the more difficult of the 2 shots.
So, let me get this straight, according to you, if a player misses a game winning shot, when they game is tied, he is a choke. So, I guess MJ, Kobe, Magic, Larry are chokers are as well, as they have all missed a game winning shot at least once in their career.
Any other brillant theories you would like to share at this time. Choke is what Karl Malone did against Chicago in Game 1 of the Finals.
Have you have ever noticed when guys choke, the shots are well short way of the mark?
I stand by what I said 100%. For a supposed superstar to stand
at the "free" throw line with one second on the clock in a tied game,
and miss the free throw is the epitome of a choke.
Does that make them lifetime chokers or define them as chokers?
That is not what I said.
If Larry or MJ missed a game winning free throw with 1 second on the
clock I would say the same thing.
According to your argumentation, a missed free throw can only be a choke
if it's way short? What if it's way long? WTF?
lol.....I doubt he thinks THAT much of Rose!
Rose is pretty good but in my opinion will never reach the 1st tier of current point guards like Chris Paul, Deron Williams, or even Devin Harris....
he should change his name. i don't think kobe did what rose did in his first playoff game. he was playin like jordan. layups all day.. 3pt shots all day. everything droppin through. only thing missing was the dunks. bulls ain't seen this since jordan.. rose is the fuckin man!! and i hate the bulls
i could've swore he was hittin 3's yesterday.. may have been just inside the line. all i know is dude was on fire. everytime he touched the ball you had the feelin he was gonna do something. celts could be in big trouble if they don't find a way to guard him.. i have a feeling bulls win the series vs celts
Maybe Rose been sandbagging all season. I think he just decided to find out how good he is. Kid just needs to realize how good he can be. Let's not forget he's only 20. He's a baby. How many kids came in at 20 or younger and dominated as a rookie, esp at the PG? I'm thinking none. Even Lebron wasn't quite Lebron yet as a rookie. Kobe, Garnett had quiet rookie seasons.
As of right now, yes, the Devin Harris who has was only entering his 4th season in the league this year but had the handcuffs taken off & was finally unleashed in New Jersey and finished top 15 scoring in the league. and that's playing beside & sharing shots with a greedy Vince Carter.
We'll see how Rose progresses in a couple of years, but Jeeeez, a big game here & there doesn't make a career. If you want to go there Harris had many huge game this year where he was unstoppable.
Take Rose over Deron Williams if you are starting a team?
Cmon D2, now YOU cant be serious!
:toast: (Just a good debate don't get heated)
OK, so we're drafting new teams right now to start next year, you're a GM (forget about salary issues)......you take Devin Harris and/or Deron Williams over Derrick Rose.....YOU'RE FIRED. 32/32 GM's would take Rose and you can take that to the bank. And the answer didn't change because of yesterday's game.
And I'm not heated. You're just very wrong here.
Well of course, but we weren't talking draf, just starting a team based on what we know RIGHT NOW.
At this point, Harris & Williams have progressed in their young years in the league into fantastic players. As of right now, Rose is pretty good, but we don't know if he is going to continue to get much better. He likely will, but it's not a given as with many players.
We'll know who's right or wrong in 2-3 years, but more than likely they will all be close enough in talent it will be tough to determine who is better....
If we're starting new teams picking players that is a draft, is it not? Call it what you want.
Obviously you have to go by the info that you have right now on all, and that's what GM's get paid to do, to project the career of their player. Nobody skilled in these things would take Harris or Williams over Rose. Nobody. Sorry. At least that;s my opinion anyway.
