December Up and Downgrades from SBR

Halifax · Dec 6, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by lander:
Oh, wait a minute. The only thing that has changed with BlueGrass is that Ted blasted that shmuck Buzzsaw for posting blatant lies about me being a bonus whore. Ted discredited him by showing that I didn't accept a single bonus upon any of the 26 deposits that I've made. Does that destroy Buzz's credibility? Would that public embarrassment be enough to slander BlueGrass for no appartent reason.

The only facts that we know are that BlueGrass has always paid and paid fast, whereas Buzz was recently caught posting lies by Bluegrass.

hmmmmmmmm ... can you say agenda?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bluegrass was downgraded 5 days ago.

Your situation with Buzzsaw/Bluegrass took place 2 or 3 days ago.

lander · Dec 6, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Nick Douglas:
lander,

Your catfight with Buzzsaw happened after the downgrade for Bluegrass. Either read SBR daily so that you know what you are talking about, or stop making a fool of yourself by criticizing them for imaginary agendas.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nick,
Do you support SBR's stance on TheOnlineBet?
Does it concern you that he's considering upgrading a known stiff book, which would likely leed to more people playing there, which would

And how the fuk did I make a fool out of myself idiot? Read the link I posted you ass clown. He went on two rants about me being being a bonus whore, which I am anything but, and was refuted publicly. He's a flat out liar. Read it and share your petty thoughts, all 30 posts worth.

Even if he is your friend, and he has a few sheets with stiff books doens't make him any less of a proven liar, now does it?

Joey - faster mouse, huh

lander · Dec 6, 2003

Hal,
I've seen your OGD posts supporting Buzz, so I know you try to be clever and never actually address the big picture, so lets (just this once for me) cut the 1% quotes, bs, and one liners and answer this ...

Did Buzz saw flat out lie about me being a bonus whore in his slander attempt? Yes or no will do.

Thanks.

Halifax · Dec 6, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by lander:
Hal,
I've seen your OGD posts supporting Buzz, so I know you try to be clever and never actually address the big picture, so lets (just this once for me) cut the 1% quotes, bs, and one liners and answer this ...

Did Buzz saw flat out lie about me being a bonus whore in his slander attempt? Yes or no will do.

Thanks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why are you asking me ? Only you know for certain.

And I didn't know that a petty squabble between you and Buzzsaw classifies as "the big picture".

lander · Dec 6, 2003

Hal,
I don't know either. I always got along with him, and then one day he starts some 'lander is a bonus whore' rant. It pissed me off, because it's a blatant lie.

Now, if he'd have started

Lander is an asshole
Lander is a middle
Lander is a steam player
Lander is a follower
Lander is a hedger

I'd have been just fine with it.

BillDozer · Dec 6, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> I don't see any other reason for BHB getting downgraded other than us having our site down. Yes, it was down for longer than others...but our call center handled the increase of calls quite well, payouts of all amounts were going out fast and there were no reports of slow/no pays. So, I believe that this downgrading had nothing to do with any financial info SBR recieved, and based this only on our site being down. JMO.
Justin
-BHB <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Justin,
Since it is a site rating "online" sportsbooks you are probably right.

Showing you can come back from something and care enough to do so will make you stronger in the long run. That goes for alot of books who make it well past this not-so-good foots season and DoS. (and hopefully those books will feel pressure to show the bank rolls after the heard thins more)

JoeyC · Dec 6, 2003

Lander:

Glad you enjoyed the mouse comment.

NickDouglas · Dec 6, 2003

Buzzsaw is not my friend. I don't know anything about him other than the fact that he runs SBR. The reason why I posted is that you were being an arrogant ass by insinuating that a sportsbook getting involved in one of your catfights would be downgraded by SBR because of that. This is especially true since said catfight occurred three days after the downgrade.

Last I checked TheOnlineBet is rated as an F+. My stance on that is that his rating is spot on.

You made a fool out of yourself by not taking two seconds to see that SBR's downgrading of Bluegrass came 3 days before your catfight. You subsequently made a fool out of yourself by asserting that you should be absolved of any "bonus whore" charges just because one book stated that you didn't take their bonus. I don't know if you are or are not a bonus whore, and frankly I don't care.

And by the way, is it just me or are compulsive gamblers the most conspiratorial, paranoid bastards on earth? I follow the pro wrestling business closely and I thought that was a business full of paranoid people but this is rediculous. I post one thing jusitifably ripping lander in support of Buzzsaw and he immediately assumes that I am friends with him. I posted something earlier today at Mad Jacks about a poster there having a good run with his service and the owner of a rival service sent me an angry email accusing me of working for that service. Man oh man. Get back to the real world, people, and settle down with all of the conspiracy theories.

lander · Dec 6, 2003

Ok, so basically you didn't read the link that I poster, then clearly asked you guys to read, right?

Did you also miss the stuff on TOB where they were going to get a conditional upgrade in "good faith"? No, probably not. But it was here, and I'm glad that Buzz listened to the masses on that one. It shows some resonsibility.

See, Nick, you miss the big picture here. I've often said that Buzz tries to be fair, but they the TOB idea. Then a blantant lie posted to slander me? Makes me question his credibility.

Why do you think I bash Major? Because he posts personal info - ie no credibility. It's the same here.

You don't see my bash CT or Lou, because they're fair.

That's all my friend, well, aside from the fact that you really don't know the history to assess the situation.

Mjulian · Dec 6, 2003

"And how the fuk did I make a fool out of myself idiot? Read the link I posted you ass clown....Read it and share your petty thoughts, all 30 posts worth."

The RX's Head Mod in Waiting shows off his skills: Fire, Ready, Aim.

Lander: I..POW!..Fukin..BAM!..Told..WHAM!..You..KABOOM!..Shuddup Gayboy!!

gamblingshark · Dec 7, 2003

Bluegrass has always paid lightning fast but on the contrary their lines have been well known to move super slow.

RayB · Dec 7, 2003

hmmmmmmmm ... can you say agenda?

lander,

The information SBR/Walker is getting regarding BlueGrass was circulating before his beef with TED. I heard mention of it a couple weeks back from somebody very high on the food chain.

I'm one of SBR's biggest critics, though in this case he may have taken the correct position with his C- rating.

lander · Dec 7, 2003

alm,
Thanks for the clarification. Although, I don't understand the downgrade, it does appear to be coincidental.

MJ,
I wouldn't take a mod job in a millions years. Half the forum thinks I'm an asshole now and I don't even ban or censor anyone

Buzzsaw · Dec 8, 2003

Lander
At 1st you said you "were a player who likes to play the best number" but as it turns out you are only a Sick Gambler type middler/bonus whore. I offered to pay you $200 for every “best number” bet you made and you ran. Stop making a fool out of yourself, your chopping through mid tier books to get the bonus. There’s nothing wrong with it but just stop the lying, that’s all.

All I wanted was for you to come clean which you did finally although youseem to be back-peddling now so we have to go through this yet again.

Lander I know you got 9,000 posts in a year and you're an true-blue Rx forum rat and this is basically your life. I didn't mean to embarrass you but I don't like people lying.

TheGeneral+ · Dec 8, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> I know you got 9,000 posts in a year and you're an true-blue Rx forum rat and this is basically your life. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Slacker lander. Can only do 9000 per year.

lander · Dec 8, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Buzzsaw:
Lander
At 1st you said you "were a player who likes to play the best number" but as it turns out you are only a Sick Gambler type middler/bonus whore. I offered to pay you $200 for every “best number” bet you made and you ran. Stop making a fool out of yourself, your chopping through mid tier books to get the bonus. There’s nothing wrong with it but just stop the lying, that’s all.

All I wanted was for you to come clean which you did finally although youseem to be back-peddling now so we have to go through this yet again.

Lander I know you got 9,000 posts in a year and you're an true-blue Rx forum rat and this is basically your life. I didn't mean to embarrass you but I don't like people lying.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Buzz,
Did you read Ted's post?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> Buzzsaw,

One thing is for sure in that we don't have to worry about you ever starting up "SportsbookPostersBettingHabitRewiew.com", because your info is way off.

I just did a review of Lander's acct have found that he has made 26 deposits (probably about 59 WD's ) and has never taken one bonus (not even a Bonus Play). The one time that we did finally convince him to take a bonus, do you know what he did with it? He had us donate it to Charity. You might remember the incident where we ended up matching his ONLY bonus and sending it off to feed hungry children.

I just wanted to set the record straight with regards to Lander. He might be called a lot of things , but Bonus Whore should not be one of them.

Thanks and Good Night!!

Ted <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What part didn't you understand? Do you need me to get other books to post too? Why don't you ask your buddy Reggie about my turning down bonuses for reporting bad lines?

The evidence is right in front of you and yet you continue to make an ass out of yourself (more so than usual Mr. OnlineBet).

I've told you twice.
I bet.
I middle.
I hedge.
I take leads.
I even steam.

Basically, I make money without bonus whoring. Have I taken signup bonuses? Sure, but I do NOT abuse them NOR do I bounce from book to book whoring them. I given the books thousands of times the rollovers.

Now, get back to your sheets, you leech. You proven LIAR.

Pathetic, truly pathetic.

lander · Dec 8, 2003

Buzz,
Where are you? Don't tell me this is another slander and run job

Buzzsaw · Dec 8, 2003

Lander,
Stay in your own world. keep posting an avg of 24.6 posts a day. Why do you even care? Did I damage your posting persona or something?

You already admitted you join 2nd tier books to chop through the rollover. I offered to GIVE you $200 for every bet you made if it was the best number and you RAN.

There is only ONE reason a sharp person bets a bad number and thats to chop through the rollover...You know it and I know it.

lander · Dec 8, 2003

Buzz,
The best reasons a sharp plays at a 2nd tier books are

1. Inflated favs present high value on the dogs
2. Slow moves
3. Keeping plays off the screen

Either you're as square as that SpongeBob guy, or you're digging and digging ..

oh, what a tangled web Buzz weaves

Buzzsaw · Dec 8, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>1. Inflated favs present high value on the dogs
2. Slow moves
3. Keeping plays off the screen
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Duh Lander. That's exactly why I offered to pay you $200 for every bet you made at the best number(inflated dogs, slow moves, whatever). But's that's not what you do which is why you ran like hell from that offer. You bet vanilla numbers at 2nd tier books to chop through the rollover ala Sick gambler. Now you are just trying to save face.