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Here’s a couple more points for ya. If I'm Philly's D, I don't let any receiver get behind safeties (the same technique Belichick employs), and also line the D-line to try and corral Dillon. This leaves short to medium range passes open to TEs and RBs and short routes for receivers. This way, no big passing play, and Dillon earns it. It forces Pats to be patient, and can cause fumbles (Dillon/Faulk) and make the Pats earn their way to points. If I'm Philly's O, hope to God that Donovan can scramble and make dump-off/medium throws consistently all day. Because I don't see any other way they can move the ball. I'd imagine that Bruschi spies Westbrook, with on the line bumps from Vrabel and McGinest.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p><!-- / message -->

Hello Grogan..

There are many many factors to consider when attacking the point spread on any given game, these factors include but are not limited to: Past head-to-head meetings, a comparison of same season opponents, season long statistics, a "Rolling average" of the last three or four game statistics, trend analysis, situational analysis, and of course matchup analysis.

When it comes to analyzing the Super Bowl I feel that a heavier emphasis has to be placed on attacking the line itself with regard to past Super Bowl results and recent trends in Super Bowl point spread results, the reason for this is because the Super Bowl is the most publicly analyzed game in the world...meaning that the public knows as much about each team as you do.

Thus the reason for the perpective and point of view that I used took in posting my original Super Bowl analysis, if you wanted my thoughts on individual matchups of offense versus defense...all you had to do was ask.

In that regard, I think this contest will be lower scoring than most expect and will probably come down to which defense and in particular which defensive secondary plays the best, when looking at the Eagles defense most public bettors simply do not realize the impact that Eagle LB Jeremiah Trotter has made.

Trotter became a starter at midseason and has proven HC Andy Reid to be correct in bringing him back to Philly, with Trotter in the line-up the Eagle defense has cut its rushing yards allowed from 130.6 yards per game to 83.5 per game in the six games after Trotter became a starter (before Reid rested most of the regulars in the final two contests).

Stopping the run is key for Philly, the Eagles do in fact have the type of personel to use a 5-3-3 or a 4-4-3 type of defensive alignment designed to stop and contain patriot RB Corey Dillon and force patriot QB Tom Brady to take to the air, this benefits the Eagles because they have probably the best defensive secondary in the NFL with three Pro Bowlers.

Another key matchup to watch in my opinion pits patriot offensive RT Brandon Gorin against Philly's bull rush, Gorin has good size but he is somewhat limited with regard to his ability to pick up and contain blitzing linebackers. thus the reason that Gorin opened the season as a backup right tackle for the patriots.

An injury to starting RT Tom Ashworth forced the patriots to insert Gorin into the lineup, don't get me wrong, Gorin has played well and has become a good quality player, however, he will be matched up against Jevon Kearse who is one of best pass rushers in the game.

How well Gorin handles Kearse will likely decide just how much the Eagles blitz. If Gorin can handle Kearse then the Eagles will be forced to attack more with the blitz, however, if Gorin can not contain Kearse then Philly should be able to get to patriot QB Tom Brady without blitzing.

With regard to how Philly's offense will matchup versus the patriot defense, the real key may come down to how well the Eagles control patriot NT Vince Wilfork who at 344 pounds is a mountain of a man cut in the same mold as Ted Washingon.

Wilfork is a huge obstacle in the middle and has the ability to fight thru double teams with his sheer power, however, Wilfork is a 1st year player and more of a "space taker upper" than anything else, I would expect to see the Eagles use their own mountain men in RT Jon Runyan who checks in at 6'7" and 330 pounds and LT Thomas who checks in at 6'7" and 350 pounds to stop the patriot rush from coming up the middle and give QB McNabb time in the pocket.

The real key for the patriots defense is the health of Richard Seymour who is a three time Pro Bowler and a force to be reckoned with when at full strength, Seymour is hard to handle and is a great disrupting force to opposing QB's as evidenced with his 22 sacks over the past four years.

I would look for both offenses to employ a very similar game plan with regard to utilizing a spread offense to better run the ball and expect to see both team use a variety of screens to slow down and/or trap the pass rush of the opposing defense, each team will most likely take their shots downfield as well.

Overall I expect to see both defenses play well and believe we are in store for a rather low scoring game, the reason being is that each team has superior coaching staffs and each team has an experienced quality QB under center that has shown the ability to limit mistakes, in my opinion the team that comes up with a key turnover will win this game.

take care and good luck!

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Damn, girl--you need an editor.

I wasn't really looking for your take exactly, just noting you hadn't made any game points previously. That is, uh, kind of important to do, past super bowl lines aside.

From what I can tell, I don't have any major quibbles w/most of this, but I would make the point that mentioning the number of "pro bowlers" here or there doesn't really do much for me. It's like saying one movie's better than another because it won a lot of oscars--I just don't care.

As I said, if Owens is all the way back Philly has a chance to make some plays, and they'll have to do that plus turnovers to have a chance at keeping it close. Because all the Pats will give them is the short stuff, and I don't see them sustaining drives well enough off that. The Patriots will get their points....Philly has to get into the 20's here to have a chance to win (or cover.)
 

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"the key for the Eagles will be to remain patient and limit their mistakes, IF the Eagles can do this I believe they have an excellent shot at pulling the upset." DEB

Your reasoning comes down to one big IF. Basically what you are saying is that the team that has the fewest TOs will win this game. Duh

In the past 3 years NE has shown that it has that formula down pat, (pardon the expression). NE will win the TO battle and the game, they will also cover. I agree with you on the UNDER.
 

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The reason I don't like the Tampa Bay/Oakland analogy for picking the dog is that Tampa Bay had the 2nd best defense (behind the 2000-2001 Ravens) the NFL has seen the last fifteen years.

Even with Trotter the Eagles defense is not in the 2002-2003 Tampa Bay league, so they cannot count on doing to Brady what the Bucs did to Gannon.
 

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Deb's book is well written and has been approved as mandatory reading for the Super Bowl. :103631605


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As I said, if Owens is all the way back Philly has a chance to make some plays, and they'll have to do that plus turnovers to have a chance at keeping it close. Because all the Pats will give them is the short stuff, and I don't see them sustaining drives well enough off that. The Patriots will get their points....Philly has to get into the 20's here to have a chance to win (or cover.)<!-- / message -->

Hello Grogan..

I am still waiting for the reason and/or reasons why YOU think the Eagles are going to be steam rolled by the patriots in this game, I did as you suggested and checked out the thread you started but came away without finding any startling revelations on your part other than...Ahhhhh the patriots are a better team because they won two of the past three SB's.

take care and good luck!

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The sweet sound of success

Cold, Hard Football Facts for the week of Feb. 3-9, 2005



Well, we’ve listened to a symphony of Cold, Hard Football Facts over the last two weeks. Here are the final notes on why the Cold, Hard Football Facts believe New England will win Super Bowl XXXIX.

The pigskin Beethoven orchestrates New England’s attack
Donovan McNabb may be a great quarterback, but this is one of the more favorable QB matchups New England has faced in recent postseasons. Consider this: Brady has appeared in eight playoff games heading into Super Bowl XXXIX. His opposing quarterbacks in five of those games have won a combined six NFL MVP awards. Another opposing QB was the NFL Rookie of the Year.

Brady has played second fiddle to each an every one in the pregame hype wars. But on gameday he’s been the grand maestro, stealing the spotlight from every single one of them. McNabb may be a great quarterback, but he’s not the league MVP and, even if we were, Brady has always got the better of these battles. For the record, Brady’s Patriots have toppled 2002 MVP Rich Gannon; 1999 and 2001 MVP Kurt Warner; 2003 co-MVP Steve McNair; and 2003 co-MVP and 2004 MVP Peyton Manning. McNabb, meanwhile, has lost to teams led by Brad Johnson and Kerry Collins. Philly’s playoff victims in the McNabb era include Johnson, Shaun King and Jim Miller.

The Patriots are red hot
The Patriots are coming off back-to-back wins against Indy and Pittsburgh, two teams that were a combined 29-7 this season (including playoffs). The Patriots outscored these two teams in the playoffs by an average of 30.5-15.0. Indy and Pittsburgh boasted the league’s No. 1 offense and No. 1 defense, respectively. They were a combined 1-3 against New England this season, but 28-4 against the rest of the league.

The Eagles are coming off back-to-back wins at home over two dome teams that went a combined 19-13 in the regular season.

Turnovers win football games
Turnovers are the one factor that can quickly silence the sweetest sounding football symphony. McNabb has been very effective in the postseason. In fact, other than a 3-INT meltdown against Carolina in the 2003 NFC title game, he’s thrown just five interceptions in 10 career playoff games. Brady, however, has thrown just three interceptions in his entire postseason career. As one astute reader noted, Brady has thrown just one interception every 90.3 postseason attempts. It is the lowest postseason interception rate in NFL history.

“Pundits,” meanwhile, have been quick to note the ball-hawking Philly defense. And, of course, Philly has three Pro Bowlers in its secondary. The Eagles intercepted 17 passes in the regular season and three in the postseason. New England’s secondary fields an undrafted rookie, two second-year players and a wide receiver at nickel back. The Patriots intercepted 20 passes this season and four in the postseason.

In the postseason, the Patriots are +7 in turnover margin and have not coughed up the ball once. The Eagles are +2. They’ve intercepted three passes and recovered one fumble.

In the regular season, NE was +9 in turnovers. Philly was +6.

New England is peaking at the right time
After 18 games, the Patriots have outscored their opponents by an average of 27.7 to 16.1 (+11.6 points per game). Only once this year, following the 12th game of the season, have they boasted a wider scoring differential. Philly enters the game with a scoring differential of 24.4 to 15.8 (+8.6). The Eagles peaked following their fifth game of the year, when they had a scoring differential of 27.4-12.6 (+14.8).

The NFC is a joke
The AFC went 44-20 vs. the NFC this season. Despite the fact that the NFC East boasts the conference’s Super Bowl representative, the division went just 4-12 against the AFC North, a division that sent just one team to the playoffs.

New England plays in the AFC East, which went sent two teams to the playoffs and went 13-3 against the NFC West, a division that sent two teams to the playoffs.

The NFC this season became the first conference to send two .500 teams to the playoffs. In the entire history of the NFL, a .500 team had never won a playoff game. But the NFC’s two .500 playoff representatives, St. Louis and Minnesota, each recorded playoff wins this year. Needless to say, the NFC was inept this year, even by historical standards.

(By the way, we looked at the quality of the defenses each team faced earlier this week.)

Philly has struggled against the AFC
Proof of the NFC’s ineptitude can be seen simply by looking at the performance of its best team against the AFC. The Eagles went 2-2 against the AFC this season. They were crushed, 27-3, by Pittsburgh (15-1). They were crushed 38-10 by Cincinnati (8-8), in a late-season game in which Philly rested many of its top players. They beat Cleveland (4-12) in overtime, 34-31. They edged Baltimore (9-7), 15-10. Remember, Philly was the dominant team in the NFC this year.

The Patriots went 4-1 against the same four AFC opponents. They split two games with the Steelers, losing 34-20 and winning 41-27, both times at Pittsburgh. They beat Cincinnati, 35-28. They crushed Cleveland, 42-15. They crushed Baltimore, 24-3.

New England is more battle-tested
The Patriots have played eight games against teams that appeared in the playoffs. New England is 7-1 in those games and outscored these teams 214-144 (26.7-18.0).

The Eagles have played six games against teams that appeared in the playoffs. Philly is 4-2 in those games and outscored these teams 138-104 (23.0-17.3).

The power of the New England ground attack
The Patriots have won two Super Bowls with a mediocre-at-best rushing attack. In fact, only one Super Bowl winner, the 1970 Colts, had a ground game that was more inept than that of the 2003 Patriots. New England heads into Super Bowl XXXIX with a ground game that ranked 7th in the NFL this season (133.4 yards per game) and with a running back, Corey Dillon, who averaged more yards per game rushing (109) than any player in football this year (he missed one regular season game). Dillon is also the leading ballcarrier in the postseason with 217 yards on 47 carries.

Philly has the league’s 24th ranked rushing attack with 102.4 yards per game. The entire Eagles team rushed for 1,639 yards in the regular season. That’s just four more yards than Dillon’s output in 15 games.

The quality wins quotient
As we pointed out earlier this week, the quality wins quotient indicates that this is one of the biggest mismatches in Super Bowl history. The Patriots are 9-1 against quality opponents. The Eagles are 3-1 against quality opponents. It’s the first Super Bowl meeting in which one team has six more quality wins than the other.

Boredom reigns supreme
Sal Paolantonio of ESPN devoted an entire “media day” report to the fact that New England was boring. According to Paolantonio, the Eagles are an exciting team because they have a couple of wide receivers who mouthed off in the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl. They Patriots failed to give him any easy storylines.

But one man’s yawner of a team is another man’s ruthless football killing machine. The Patriots are poised to topple a whole series of NFL records. No team has ever won more than 33 games in a two-year span. A victory in the Super Bowl will be New England’s 34th win in two years. New England can tie Lombardi’s Packers for most consecutive playoff victories. Brady can tie Bart Starr for most consecutive playoff victories by a quarterback with nine (Starr lost his first playoff game before winning nine straight). Bill Belichick can surpass the postseason coaching record of Vince Lombardi, the man for whom the Super Bowl trophy is named. And, of course, the Patriots can become just the third team in the entire history of the NFL to win three championships in a four-year span (the Cowboys of the early 90s won three in four years while the Packers of the late 60s won three straight).

Yeah, that’s boring. We’re sure the Patriots would trade it all for the excitement of a single witty Freddy Mitchell one-liner.
 

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Your reasoning comes down to one big IF. Basically what you are saying is that the team that has the fewest TOs will win this game. Duh

Hello ~Falco~..

Please forgive me if this comes off sounding a little critical in nature but...isn't this supposed to be a "Handicapping Forum" that is meant to be a place to SHARE ideas, concepts, thoughts, and points of view about upcoming games?

I really don't mind taking the time and replying to others on this great forum and truth be known I actually enjoy it...but I really must admit....people like you who enter threads and add NOTHING of substance to the thread itself make me really question if the time and trouble I take in researching my facts and posting them here in an organized manner is really worth it.

People like you chase people like me away, judging by your attitude that is probably what you want anyway and that's all well and good, but remember this...without people like me and others like me who actually take the time and handicap games lazy people like you who add no substance other than smart $ss remarks might have to do some work for a change.....DUH.

take care and good luck!

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Hey Deb, don't take this the wrong way but you seem to be getting your back up anytime anybody challenges you on anything. Falco simply made the point that your case on Philly didn't convince him--deal w/it. As to your latest shot at me, I've made points on coaching/qb/experience/etc. etc. etc. so saying I haven't made a case for N.E. is just plain wrong. No need to get hysterical, we're just sharing p.o.v.s, ok? Relax.
 

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....people like you who enter threads and add NOTHING of substance to the thread itself make me really question if the time and trouble I take in researching my facts and posting them here in an organized manner is really worth it.


Deb I looked looked at your lengthy analysis from a critical thinking perspective and broke it down into one simple logical conclusion. All your research facts organization and reasoning comes to one big IF. As in; "IF the Eagles limit their mistakes they will win the game." There is nothing wrong with that conclusion and I think ALL the forum agrees with that observation. I'm not criticizing your reasoning as much as your writing style, overly verbose. I read all analysis here the same way,"What is the Capper's one variable that he is basing his decision on?" It usually comes down to one or two variables. Here is an analysis of the Super Bowl by Bblight:Patriots vs Eagles


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The Patiots have the third rated offense, the first rated defense, and have played the 3rd toughest schedule in the NFL - that's 3-1-3. The Patriots were 14-2 in the regular season, and have handily beaten the second and third ranked teams in the NFL in the playoffs. I have the Patriots graded as an "A" team.

The Eagles have the 12th rated offense, the fourth rated defense, and they've played the easiest schedule in the NFL - that's 12-4-32. Their regular season record is 13-3, but could be 15-1, since they rested key starters in the last two games of the season, losing at 8-8 St Louis and vs 8-8 Cinicinati. The two teams they beat to get to the Superbowl were 8-8 Minnesota and 11-5 Atlanta. I have the Eagles graded as a "C+" team. Their strength of schedule takes the Eagles out of the "B" category and into the "C".

By the emotions:

I'm not as educated about the Eagles as some people - but it seems to me that after losing the Championship crown 4 times in a row - at home, the focus and the fear was on winning the NFC Crown and getting to the Superbowl. How much emotion is left for winning the Superbowl?

Bill Bellicek just wants to win - whatever way it takes - he doesn't care if the win is by one point or twenty - but there are other factors at play in this game- there are three things going for the Patriots that spell domination in this game -
First is Charlie Weiss, the Offensive Coach - winning this superbowl with a dominating offense will help him in his recruiting for Notre Dame. A dominating win will propel his coaching abilities into the spotlight and should help his team attract better athletes.
Second is Romeo Crennell, the Defensive Coach, who will want to end his carreer in New England with a dominating defensive game as he prepares to coach in the NFL (Probably Cleveland) - this will give him a reputation with players and fans that will last long enough for him to build a winning team.
Finally are the players, especialy the O and D linemen who want to make a lasting statement after being ignored all year as the media focused on the abilities of other teams, on the abilities of the coaches and on mssing "star" players such as Law and Seymour. These guys are quietly pounding their chests and wanting to close the season with a dominating win that will focus on their part of the game.

Conclusion:

The Patriots are better statistically and are also emotionally prepared to win, while the Eagles are just happy to be there.

Take the Patriots -7 and under 49

Good luck!>>>

Noticed how he summed up his whole thesis by adding a simple conclusion saving the reader some time. I didnt read his whole analysis, (blah blah blah)just the conclusion. Speed reading 101

The conclusion is the thing that we the readers who are looking for a winner by reading the analysis are always in search of. Its usually not stated as plainly as bblights is. In your case I pointed it out. Hopefully I have added a new weapon in our search for a winner, "How to read a writeup and get to the meat"

I agree with your conclusion IF the Eagles limit their mistakes, ie. win the TO battle they will win the game. Sorry about the Duh
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Hey Deb, don't take this the wrong way but you seem to be getting your back up anytime anybody challenges you on anything. Falco simply made the point that your case on Philly didn't convince him--deal w/it. As to your latest shot at me, I've made points on coaching/qb/experience/etc. etc. etc. so saying I haven't made a case for N.E. is just plain wrong. No need to get hysterical, we're just sharing p.o.v.s, ok? Relax.

Hello Grogan..

Maybe I did over-react to your posted reply to me but let's remember that it was you who first entered this thread and ridiculed my analysis, you then ended your post with a comment about wanting to be my "Daddy".

From that point onward I viewed each of your replies with a raised eyebrow, apparently we just got off on the wrong foot...Truce okay?

take care and good luck!

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Deb, I can't wait till the game. I can't sleep and thak god I'm hot now in case Eagles don't win. By the way on my prop Mcnabb's longest carry over 9.5 yards, Its the Superbowl and Mcnabb will do whatever it takes to win. I got a lot of cake on this prop so wish me luck. Love ya Deb.



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Hello ~Falco~...

Apparently we got off on the wrong foot, but how did you really expect me to react when you posted a critical response which included no analysis of your own and then you ended your statements with a "DUH", you came across as believing that you were "All-knowing" and that no opinion but yours mattered.

Couple the above with comments that I've seen you make to others in other threads such as:

To Nonphixion:

"Feeling suicidal huh and to add insult to injury, you picked the wrong side in both games. Sorry to hear bout your gambling problem".

To Mr Gamecock:

"Cashing the big one has gone to your head and you've become cocky. Dallas+3.5 first half??? Good Luck on that pick. Dallas sucks more than Seattle".

To OldmanTED:

"I agree with #1cheater and sfincter. Olddude has too much drama. See his first post begging for attention. So long and I'll see you at Al's Heimer's bar, we can have a drink and reminisce.. if we can".

Each of the above three handicappers ( like me ) took the time to research and analyze their game selections and all you did was enter their respective threads and disrespect them with your comments and did not add anything of value.

After seeing some of your comments to others and than having you do the same thing to me it should be no small wonder that I reacted the way that I did, oddly enough in your return response to me you simply did a "Cut and Paste" of anothers work ( Bblight ) as a means to refute what I had written instead of coming up with your own conclusions.

The point that I was trying to make to you in my original response is that it would be greatly appreciated if you would add something of VALUE when making replies to others instead of coming off as a Smart-&ss, hopefully this will end here and we can get past this..Okay?...Truce.

take care and good luck!

Deb
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By the Stats:

The Patiots have the third rated offense, the first rated defense, and have played the 3rd toughest schedule in the NFL - that's 3-1-3. The Patriots were 14-2 in the regular season, and have handily beaten the second and third ranked teams in the NFL in the playoffs. I have the Patriots graded as an "A" team.

The Eagles have the 12th rated offense, the fourth rated defense, and they've played the easiest schedule in the NFL - that's 12-4-32. Their regular season record is 13-3, but could be 15-1, since they rested key starters in the last two games of the season, losing at 8-8 St Louis and vs 8-8 Cinicinati. The two teams they beat to get to the Superbowl were 8-8 Minnesota and 11-5 Atlanta. I have the Eagles graded as a "C+" team. Their strength of schedule takes the Eagles out of the "B" category and into the "C".

Falco..

By the way, the numbers used in the above analysis are totally wrong as the patriots DID NOT finish the season with the NFL's 3rd ranked offense and 1st ranked defense...nor did the patriots finish with those rankings in the AFC.

The patriots finished the regular season with an overall NFL ranking of 7th on ofense and 9th on defense, meanwhile, the Eagles finished the season with NFL rankings of 9th on offense and 10th on defense.

take care and good luck!

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The facts about the stats is that N.E is the better team, it doesn't take a pro to see that! Once again I will make this statement, games are not won or lost on paper. I think there is a quote "ON ANY GIVEN SUNDAY". Can Phil win the game? Hell yea they can win the game, if the breakers go their way and they don't make alot of mistakes. Nobody can predict which team is going to get the breaks or make the fewer turnovers,if we could we all would be rich.
As I stated in the AFC championship game, the rookie Q.B would make rookie mistakes and N.E would win the game because they had the better Q.B. I got lucky with that call!
N.E and Phil have good Q.B's, which makes this game very difficult to predict which Q.B will make the mistakes that gives the other team the advantage. I would think that experience would be a factor, this would give the edge to N.E. A 7 point edge, it depends, an interception for a touchdown really eats on a Q.B mentally. Example: the AFC championship game.
The two stats that I look at in any game is the teams strength of schedule and their turnover ratio. I don't care about the rushing or passing yards for the offense and defense. What does the ATS stats mean, what happen in the past. Sometimes using the ATS stats you can see where a team appears to have a mental edge over another team, example: N.E/INDY. I like to hear a coach say we had a good practice this past week, this tells me the team is focused on the game and they are going to be ready to play. You don't hear it often, but it does have value when the coach says we had a good practice. Andy Reid did say they were having some good pratctices, this tells me Philly is going to show up Sunday. I was leaning toward betting on N.E, now I am not sure. The one bet I am sure on is the over. Both teams can and will throw the ball long, which makes for quick scores. Phil first play of the game will be a deep pass to Owens. I hope he catches it for a touchdown and the game is on. Since I will not be making a play on a team, I will be pulling for the underdog. "ON ANY GIVEN SUNDAY"
 

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<<<Falco..

By the way, the numbers used in the above analysis are totally wrong as the patriots DID NOT finish the season with the NFL's 3rd ranked offense and 1st ranked defense...nor did the patriots finish with those rankings in the AFC.

The patriots finished the regular season with an overall NFL ranking of 7th on ofense and 9th on defense, meanwhile, the Eagles finished the season with NFL rankings of 9th on offense and 10th on defense.

take care and good luck!

Deb>>>

That is exactly why when reading an analysis a reader must be aware that the analysis will contain only one or two major variables that summarizes all the reasoning. All of bblights statistical mistakes (I saw then also) where insignificant to me as a reader. Blight summarized his reasoning, mistakes and all in the with his conclusion of :

"The Patriots are better statistically and are also emotionally prepared to win, while the Eagles are just happy to be there.

Take the Patriots -7 and under 49"

It is up to me as the reader to give weight to his perceptions.

Now Deb as far a your comment to me of: "Instead of coming off as a Smart-&ss." I find it extremly ironic. I don't know who comes across as much as a 'know it all smart ass' me or you. I post many of my replies with a sarcastic tongue in cheek comedic viewpoint. I dont think I know it all as much as I think that I'm extremely funny. I have been saddled with the task of deflating the self-importance egos of many posters here yourself included. Who assigned me the task? Nobody. I volunteered in the name of laughs. As U2s Bono said. "One man in the name of Laughs." Good Luck in your gambling.

P.S. I'm flattered that you did a search on my postings. I did one of you and came up with this analytical gem of yours "The game will go Under because they are playing on grass." Little did I know you meant it literally, as in 'they are smoking grass and are under the influence thus, 'they are playing On grass'. It must have been some good stuff though cause the game went OVER, 3 minutes in. Oh well, we can't win them all, but we can always laugh about it.




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The facts about the stats is that N.E is the better team, it doesn't take a pro to see that! Once again I will make this statement, games are not won or lost on paper. I think there is a quote "ON ANY GIVEN SUNDAY". Can Phil win the game? Hell yea they can win the game, if the breakers go their way and they don't make alot of mistakes. Nobody can predict which team is going to get the breaks or make the fewer turnovers,if we could we all would be rich.

Hello twjd...

Thanks for taking the time to add the discussion, I think you brought up some valid points with regard to the patriots being the better overall team, there is no denying that, however, with that said I don't think the patriots are a full seven points better...three or four points perhaps, but not a fully converted TD.

I keep hearing everyone say that the patriots will play better than the Eagles because the patriots have more big game experience, actually that is not a true statement as this years Super Bowl will be the Eagles 12th post season game since the year 2000, meanwhile, the patriots are playing their 9th post season game over the same time period.

Since 2000 the Eagles are 7-4 straight up and ATS in post season games while the patriots have gone 8-0 straight up and 5-2-1 ATS, as I stated above there is no denying that the patriots should be favored in this game, however, I just can't believe that so many people think the patriots are going to win this years SB going away in blowout fashion.

take care and good luck!

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Very entertaining and well researched facts/thoughts..nice to have these exchanges. After reading these thoughts you have pushed me to under the total 48 here in Vegas..we will see

Hello Pam..

Thanks for your kind words, I'm glad you enjoyed the read, with regard to the UNDER 48...I originally only wagered 1 unit on it but have since placed another unit on it.

take care and good luck!

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Hey Deb,

You provide some good food for thought on the Super Bowl.

According to things I have read and heard, the Patriots would have been a 4 point favorite according to the numbers. However, because of the way that they handled the Colts in the playoffs, they are a 7 point favorite.

Something else to be aware of is the fact that both teams made significant changes to their starting lineup midway through the season which almost throws out the statistics and numbers accumulated in the first half of the season.

Think about it, do we give a flying f*ck about how the Patriots did with Ty Law in the starting lineup? Of course not. We want to know how well the Patriots played against the opposition after the Pittsburgh game, because that is when they plugged in their younger corners and that is the team that is playing on Sunday.

The same goes for the Eagles. Do we care how they played in the first half of the season before the Pittsburgh game? Of course not. They had a different starting MLB up until (and including) the Steelers' game when they made a lineup change. I don't wanna know how good the Eagles were before they made this change, I wanna know how good they were after the change.

The Eagles even went with a different starting outside linebacker in the playoffs (Keith Adams). This also turned out to be an upgrade at the position. However, if we discount the Eagles final few regular season games because of this, then we won't have too much to go by when analyzing the Super Bowl.

I may not even bet on this game or I may place a small bet on the Eagles +7.5 (buy the half point). I don't think this is a good Super Bowl to bet on, however, it is clear that the value lies with the Eagles when they're given the 7 points. Does it make sense to bet on a game when you're only getting a 3 point advantage? Not really. Does it make sense to bet on a team in the Super Bowl who you don't think will win the game? Definitely not. But it's the Super Bowl, so I'll put down a small wager on it. Or maybe just hunt for some nice looking props and throw down on those instead.

Good luck,

Scott
 

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