congrats. Tom Brady. greatest QB of all time

[EveryGamblersDream]

OMG. You say that "it is physically impossible to compare games and eras" right after you say definitively : "Brady is NOT EVEN CLOSE to being the greatest"

Your opinion is a joke, and you can't even formulate a cogent argument to defend yourself.

The joke is your man crush on him. Keep obsessing on him being the greatest, it would not be the first asinine thing you post on this site nor will it be the last.

Joe Montana > Tom Brady deal with it little man

 

[festeringZit]

[h=1]Colin Cowherd: Tom Brady is the best quarterback ever, better than Joe Montana[/h]

Colin Cowherd: Tom Brady is the best quarterback ever, better than Joe Montana

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Colin Cowherd thinks there’s no one in Tom Brady’s league anymore. Brady is the greatest quarterback that’s ever lived, and it’s not even close.
“Brady’s absolutely the best quarterback I’ve ever seen,” Cowherd said Tuesday.
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Do you agree or disagree with @ColinCowherd -- Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback of all-time.
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Brady is off to yet another hot start in the 2016 season with 1,319 yards, 12 touchdown passes and no interceptions in four games. But Brady’s success obviously goes well beyond this season.
“There is no more debate,” Cowherd said. “People don’t do their homework if they do debate it. The only guy that’s close is Joe Montana. And if you look at quarterbacks, they’re judged three ways: regular season dominance, postseason dominance and then Super Bowls.
“Regular season, Brady has 13 Division Titles. Montana’s got 10. And Brady’s going to win his 14th this season. Postseason dominance, Brady’s got 22 wins. Montana’s got 16. Super Bowls, Tom got to six. Montana got to four. They both won four. I’m not punishing Tom, because he got to more.”
What about the weak AFC East during Brady’s 17-year career? To that, Cowherd said, “Do your homework.” Cowherd detailed the weak division Montana played in during his dominant career. And Cowherd added at the at that he anticipates Brady will have two or three more years of high-level play. That means Brady could win another Super Bowl and further bury any question as to who is the greatest quarterback ever.

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[festeringZit]

There is no more debate,” Cowherd said. “People don’t do their homework if they do debate it."

 

[festeringZit]

NFL Playoffs records:

Playoffs

Tom Brady celebrates his success | Jim Rogash/Getty Images
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Passing yards

• Brady: 7,957
• Leader: Brady

Pass completions

• Brady: 738
• Leader: Brady

Touchdown passes

• Brady: 56
• Leader: Brady

Passer rating

• Brady: 88 (15th all time)
• Leader: Bart Starr – 104.8

Wins

• Brady: 22
• Leader: Brady

Winning percentage (minimum 10 starts)

• Brady: .71 (sixth all time)
• Leader: Bart Starr – .900

Super Bowl

Tom Brady celebrates one of his many Super Bowl wins | Christian Petersen/Getty Images
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Appearances

• Brady: 6
• Leader: Brady

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• Brady: 4
• Leader (tie): Brady, Joe Montana, Terry Bradshaw – 4

MVP awards

• Brady: 3
• Leader (tie): Brady, Joe Montana – 3

Completions

• Brady: 164
• Leader: Brady

Completion percentage

• Brady: 64.1 (fourth all time)
• Leader: Troy Aikman – 70

Passing yards

• Brady: 1,605
• Leader: Brady

Touchdown passes

• Brady: 13
• Leader: Brady

Tom Brady leads his team | Jim Rogash/Getty Images
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Brady’s case as the best quarterback of all time got a serious boost with his performance in Super Bowl XLIX. The argument grew even more with his MVP-caliber performance during the 2015 regular season. He now holds nearly every major Super Bowl passing record in addition to the record for most Super Bowl appearances by a quarterback. More importantly, Brady now ties Joe Montana, the quarterback many consider to be the best to ever play the game, for most Super Bowl wins and most Super Bowl MVP awards.
Brady also holds multiple playoff quarterback records and is in the top five in nearly every career regular-season passing category. He has hinted that he has “a lot of football left” to play in his career, meaning that he is highly likely to improve his standing in every category. If he truly does play another five to seven seasons, Brady will almost surely hold every regular-season passing record, every postseason passing record, and every Super Bowl passing record.

 

[phdinsports]

I did all that in another thread. I'm not one to get into pissing contests. 2015 alone disproves your idiocy, and 2016 numbers are inflated by 9 special teams fumbles. Haters don't care about facts. J
Somehow saying they were exposed when all they do is win is as fucking dumb as they come.

Carry-on, please keep hating, i make money off of such nonsense

Thank you

Actually you did not address the difference in fumbles from 2001-2006 to 2007-2014! Why the difference in fumbles?!?! Until the next scandal, keeping defending the CHEATS!!

 

[festeringZit]

Hey GEDinsports,

Your team cheats. Fact.

 

[festeringZit]

Hey GEDinsports,

I have a little bit of an advanced topic, that your brain might not be able to handle - but I want you to try anyway.

Read this concept until you get it - it may take months, it probably will take you years - you might never get it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

 

[phdinsports]

How convenient that you have absolutely no response to the facts I cited about Marino choking in the post-season, and being possibly the worst running QB ever.

You need to change your handle to: GEDinsports

I didn't address it because yes he was a terrible runner, as for the choking in the postseason it's already been done by me in this thread page 8 or 9 I believe. No need to repeat that Marino had one of the best post seasons ever in 94. I just commented on the asinine quote calling the 84 niners far from invincible!

 

[phdinsports]

Enough with the pictures chew on these irrefutable numbers and then you can get back to me!

Belicheat won loss record before cheating 36-44 winning percentage .450


won loss record after cheating (spygate,deflategate, and waiting for the next scandal) 201-71 winning percentage .739

Now let's look at regular season fumbles since 2001 Brady's first season.

2001 29 fumbles
2002 24 fumbles
2003 25 fumbles
2004 19 fumbles
2005 24 fumbles
2006 27 fumbles

Now Brady lobbies NFL to have each team supply their own balls and Belicheat forwards the physics of football and the fumbles go down. Pats get caught with spygate so time to break other rules. Oh wait according to the Northeast Belicheat starts "coaching" ball security (LMFAO) like this is some revolutionary new discovery no other coach understands :missingte. Or is it Brady's hands grow a few inches.

2007 14 fumbles
2008 13 fumbles
2009 9 fumbles
2010 17 fumbles
2011 17 fumbles
2012 14 fumbles
2013 24 fumbles (5 in week one, ball boy was on dl lol)
2014 13 fumbles

Now Pats get caught cheating AGAIN, and the fumbles are creeping back, although it's still early. Sample size is small but I posted this thread because last year a similar thread was posted stating Pats were number one in fumbles after eight or nine weeks!

2015 14 fumbles
2016 27 fumbles

Still waiting for a response to this! LMAO!

 

[wilbur]

Still waiting for a response to this! LMAO!

Who gives a fuck.

They have been the BEST team for years.

Keep betting against them

 

[PatsFanatic]

Still waiting for a response to this! LMAO!

1996-2006 NFL teams averaged 25.3 fumbles/year
2007-2016 NFL teams averaged 21.7 fumbles/year

A few individual teams (no time to do all of them)

Indy: 96-06 = 19.5
07-16 = 17.2 -2.3 (DOME TEAM, current numbers would be WAY lower if Manning was still there because Luck fumbles like crazy)
NE: 96-06 = 24.7
07-16 = 16.7 -8.0
Balty: 96-06 = 29.5
07-16 = 20.6 -8.9

The rule change Brady AND PEYTON MANNING lobbied for was the preparation of the footballs. They did not like the factory finish that came with a "new" football so they wanted to scuff and use the football before game day to give it a more "used" feeling. You can clearly read all of this in this NY Times article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/sports/football/03football.html

The only player admitting to ball deflation in this article is David Carr....it helped his career greatly.

Clearly shown by the numbers, Baltimore was aided in the rule change more than the Patriots.

But what you do, and most haters do, is ignore numbers from other teams and just try to GLARINGLY point out HUGE Discrepancy's with New England's numbers without even bothering to check other teams numbers. Pretty typical. You also fail to see who is fumbling, as is the case this year. The guys that touch the ball the most are still in line with what they have been historically at, but the newbies (rookies) and special team guys who never touch the ball have a harder time holding on to it...shocker.

This is why people don't want to debate with someone that has blinders on so.....Carry on.

 

[festeringZit]

1996-2006 NFL teams averaged 25.3 fumbles/year
2007-2016 NFL teams averaged 21.7 fumbles/year

A few individual teams (no time to do all of them)

Indy: 96-06 = 19.5
07-16 = 17.2 -2.3 (DOME TEAM, current numbers would be WAY lower if Manning was still there because Luck fumbles like crazy)
NE: 96-06 = 24.7
07-16 = 16.7 -8.0
Balty: 96-06 = 29.5
07-16 = 20.6 -8.9

The rule change Brady AND PEYTON MANNING lobbied for was the preparation of the footballs. They did not like the factory finish that came with a "new" football so they wanted to scuff and use the football before game day to give it a more "used" feeling. You can clearly read all of this in this NY Times article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/sports/football/03football.html

The only player admitting to ball deflation in this article is David Carr....it helped his career greatly.

Clearly shown by the numbers, Baltimore was aided in the rule change more than the Patriots.

But what you do, and most haters do, is ignore numbers from other teams and just try to GLARINGLY point out HUGE Discrepancy's with New England's numbers without even bothering to check other teams numbers. Pretty typical. You also fail to see who is fumbling, as is the case this year. The guys that touch the ball the most are still in line with what they have been historically at, but the newbies (rookies) and special team guys who never touch the ball have a harder time holding on to it...shocker.

This is why people don't want to debate with someone that has blinders on so.....Carry on.

Quoting for truth:

"Clearly shown by the numbers, Baltimore was aided in the rule change more than the Patriots.

But what you do, and most haters do, is ignore numbers from other teams and just try to GLARINGLY point out HUGE Discrepancy's with New England's numbers without even bothering to check other teams numbers. Pretty typical. You also fail to see who is fumbling, as is the case this year. The guys that touch the ball the most are still in line with what they have been historically at, but the newbies (rookies) and special team guys who never touch the ball have a harder time holding on to it...shocker.

This is why people don't want to debate with someone that has blinders on so.....Carry on."

That's why his new name is ---> GEDinsports

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

"I think he does things that no one in the league has ever done."

"Some of the plays he makes are just phenomenal."

“I think he makes everything look so simple because he has such an efficient delivery.”

“Everything looks really effortless with him, which is the amazing part. He’s definitely working hard, but he’s making hard look easy. The velocity of the ball. The placement of the ball. He’s just an incredible player. I love watching his tape, admiring the things he can do, because I can’t do many of those things.”

"Whenever he’s on, I usually stay up and watch.”

Who are these comments about exactly.....

Aaron Rodgers & they were straight from the mouth of Tom Brady

 

[phdinsports]

Quoting for truth:

"Clearly shown by the numbers, Baltimore was aided in the rule change more than the Patriots.

But what you do, and most haters do, is ignore numbers from other teams and just try to GLARINGLY point out HUGE Discrepancy's with New England's numbers without even bothering to check other teams numbers. Pretty typical. You also fail to see who is fumbling, as is the case this year. The guys that touch the ball the most are still in line with what they have been historically at, but the newbies (rookies) and special team guys who never touch the ball have a harder time holding on to it...shocker.

This is why people don't want to debate with someone that has blinders on so.....Carry on."

That's why his new name is ---> GEDinsports

Dumb hypocritical fool! What happened to this link you posted!?!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correl...mply_causation

You obviously didn't read it! WTF does the 1996 to 2001 numbers have anything to do with this discussion! Different coaches, systems and quarterbacks. OF course the numbers are going to change, different quarterbacks handling the ball different coach and systems! Got you with your own evidence you provided! Gotta love it!

 

[phdinsports]

1996-2006 NFL teams averaged 25.3 fumbles/year
2007-2016 NFL teams averaged 21.7 fumbles/year

A few individual teams (no time to do all of them)

Indy: 96-06 = 19.5
07-16 = 17.2 -2.3 (DOME TEAM, current numbers would be WAY lower if Manning was still there because Luck fumbles like crazy)
NE: 96-06 = 24.7
07-16 = 16.7 -8.0
Balty: 96-06 = 29.5
07-16 = 20.6 -8.9

The rule change Brady AND PEYTON MANNING lobbied for was the preparation of the footballs. They did not like the factory finish that came with a "new" football so they wanted to scuff and use the football before game day to give it a more "used" feeling. You can clearly read all of this in this NY Times article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/sports/football/03football.html

The only player admitting to ball deflation in this article is David Carr....it helped his career greatly.

Clearly shown by the numbers, Baltimore was aided in the rule change more than the Patriots.

But what you do, and most haters do, is ignore numbers from other teams and just try to GLARINGLY point out HUGE Discrepancy's with New England's numbers without even bothering to check other teams numbers. Pretty typical. You also fail to see who is fumbling, as is the case this year. The guys that touch the ball the most are still in line with what they have been historically at, but the newbies (rookies) and special team guys who never touch the ball have a harder time holding on to it...shocker.

This is why people don't want to debate with someone that has blinders on so.....Carry on.

Funny you used the sharpfootball analysis bringing in the Ravens while arguing against their data.

Curious why did you include the Pats 2015-2016 to your analysis? They got caught in 2014, the fumbles are rising again, although it's still a small sample. Remove the seasons after they got caught and they have the biggest drop in fumbles. So NO you're wrong the numbers don't clearly show the Ravens were aided more than the Pats. If you really want to get into numbers look at fumbles per play, Ravens are not even in the same ballpark as the Pats! But nice try!

You still haven't addressed why the Pats fumbles are on the rise after they got caught cheating? As for the Ravens yes Harbaugh/Flacco teams fumble less than Billick/Boller teams. You have to have similar variables to have a cause and effect relation. You're just digging, trying hard to debunk the Cheating Pats, like bringing in numbers from 96. Christ BeliCHEAT was coaching against the Pats in 96! What the hell do the 96-00 numbers have anything to do with this discussions other from the fact that you're trying real hard debunk the Cheaters! Until the next scandal....Carry on.

 

[vitterd]

I think Brady is best of all time but now that I see Colin Cowherd thinks that.....I might have to reconsider. Cowherd is a tool and his opinion should never be quoted anywhere.

 

[phdinsports]

1996-2006 NFL teams averaged 25.3 fumbles/year
2007-2016 NFL teams averaged 21.7 fumbles/year

A few individual teams (no time to do all of them)

Indy: 96-06 = 19.5
07-16 = 17.2 -2.3 (DOME TEAM, current numbers would be WAY lower if Manning was still there because Luck fumbles like crazy)
NE: 96-06 = 24.7
07-16 = 16.7 -8.0
Balty: 96-06 = 29.5
07-16 = 20.6 -8.9

The rule change Brady AND PEYTON MANNING lobbied for was the preparation of the footballs. They did not like the factory finish that came with a "new" football so they wanted to scuff and use the football before game day to give it a more "used" feeling. You can clearly read all of this in this NY Times article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/sports/football/03football.html

The only player admitting to ball deflation in this article is David Carr....it helped his career greatly.

Clearly shown by the numbers, Baltimore was aided in the rule change more than the Patriots.

But what you do, and most haters do, is ignore numbers from other teams and just try to GLARINGLY point out HUGE Discrepancy's with New England's numbers without even bothering to check other teams numbers. Pretty typical. You also fail to see who is fumbling, as is the case this year. The guys that touch the ball the most are still in line with what they have been historically at, but the newbies (rookies) and special team guys who never touch the ball have a harder time holding on to it...shocker.

This is why people don't want to debate with someone that has blinders on so.....Carry on.

Oh and Thanks for posting the nfl average in fumbles from 2007-2016 of 21.7

Here are the correct Pats numbers when cheating from 2007-2014 their fumble rate was 15.1 waaaay below the league average. When you consider an outdoor cold weather team, nearly always in the top five in total plays, their low rate defies logic...unless of course your cheating! Now after they're caught cheating their fumble rate is 20.5 similar to the Ravens and just below league average, again it's still a small sample size! Nice try!

Until the next scandal....Carry on.

 

[PatsFanatic]

Very weak come backs, you ignore points I bring up and pretend things like the fumble rates of Baltimore aren't real, or that ball preperation rule changes in 2006 didn't have an effect on anything. You bring the same thing to every post, the same things that has been debunked over and over again. Like I said its tiresome.

It looks to me the Patriots defend themselves on the field YEAR AFTER YEAR....Yet ANOTHER AFC Championship game. But yeah, its the one PSI that makes all the difference....carry on

 

[KAPTHAT]

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[Willie99]

"I think he does things that no one in the league has ever done."

"Some of the plays he makes are just phenomenal."

“I think he makes everything look so simple because he has such an efficient delivery.”

“Everything looks really effortless with him, which is the amazing part. He’s definitely working hard, but he’s making hard look easy. The velocity of the ball. The placement of the ball. He’s just an incredible player. I love watching his tape, admiring the things he can do, because I can’t do many of those things.”

"Whenever he’s on, I usually stay up and watch.”

Who are these comments about exactly.....

Aaron Rodgers & they were straight from the mouth of Tom Brady

well, in all fairness, Brady and the Patriots say that stuff about everybody, even Tannehill and Fitzpatrick, that's Patriot talk

having said that, there's no doubt in my mind Brady respects Rogers, be silly not too, but that doesn't prove anything