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Every single person in this thread that said Miami is a young team and Florida should be ashamed because Miami is so YOUNG, please check your FACTS first:

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UF Starters
SR - 4
JR - 7
SO - 11
FR - 0

UF Participants
SR - 7
JR - 9
SO - 10
FR - 8

UF Combined – Total starters & participants 56
SR - 11
JR - 16
SO - 21
FR - 8

UM Starters
SR - 8
JR - 5
SO - 6
FR - 3

UM Participants
SR - 12
JR - 8
SO - 5
FR - 15

UM Combined – Total starters & participants 62
SR - 20
JR - 13
SO - 11
FR - 18

So, Miami played 33 upper classmen to Florida’s 27 and 29 underclassmen to Florida’s 29. Miami played more Freshmen than Florida but they also played significantly more Seniors that Florida. Miami should stop trying to use Youth as an excuse.
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"U" has 10 more freshman in their roster than does UF. We play 6 freshman on defense for almost 20 minutes average each. Our D-Line has two stud freshmen, two future phenom's at LB, and a couple of future stars at DB. I think its safe to say that in the next two years (also some this year) opponents will be feeling a bit of pain when coming across these boys. Our offense is obviously behind our defense but I'm very optimstic having half a dozen guys that receive decent playing time which includes two QB's, OL's, and a couple Wide outs. Unlike Mayer we actually give our youngin's a decent amount of reps early on.

What really matters over everything else is that in two years we'll be a top 10 team and I'm willing to back that statement up with a little cash for any takers.

Our defense man handled your offense throughout the majority of the game (3 quarters). We had 7 tackles for losses including Spence's sack. You scored mostly due to special teams and our lack of offense efficiency. Yes penalties helped but I think our defense had a lot to do with that. We simply got you out of rhythm and rattled Tim some.


Note: Our O-Line is our glaring weakness as it always seems to be. I like what I see though with our younger guys and most importantly our recruiting thus far this year.


BigPig: The ACC might suck this year but my friend with the "U" back it won't stay down too long. Clemson just needs an O-Line, FSU needs to overthrow the government, Wake continues to improve year after year, and VTech just needs to find a reliable QB. I'll stop here


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Our defense man handled your offense throughout the majority of the game (3 quarters). We had 7 tackles for losses including Spence's sack. You scored mostly due to special teams and our lack of offense efficiency. Yes penalties helped but I think our defense had a lot to do with that. We simply got you out of rhythm and rattled Tim some.

A very accurate account of the game & how that score does not tell the entire story.

I also agree that the "U" will be a top 10 team within 2 years. I'll go even further & say they will be in the title game within 2-3 seasons.
 

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All due respect to your defense, but you won't be ranked with that offense. Defense is great, but you still have to score to win. Special teams were pretty lousy too. To Box's point also - UF rang up 3 TDs and 350yds of O and played their worst offensive game since Auburn of last year. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement of your defense. UF did as much or more to hurt themselves as Miami did to stop them.
 

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140 yards of offense. The game was not that close because Miami never threatened offensively. They managed one 50 yard field goal. I never saw any of that speed on offense that Miami used to have. Where are the playmakers? Their defense looked great but they still gave up 348 yards of total offense. Miami averaged 2.2 yds per rush.

Miami gets a close for 3 quarters but no cigar and then they even blew the cover (over 21 points).
 

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A few comments:
Bryce Brown is the man.
Canes are considered a young team b/c most of their skill position players on offense are freshman and sophomores.
Hard for a D to get that many stops when the O can't sustain a drive.
Canes will be a top 10 team in 2 years. They are clearly rebuilding. If you look at 2006 and 2007 they did not have a top 10 recruiting class where they should be every year.


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"U" has 10 more freshman in their roster than does UF.

So? I'm looking at the guy who PLAYED last night. The guys who participated in the game. Florida played and started just as many young underclass guys as Miami. How many freshmen that are on the practice squad and listed on the roster doesnt matter much when UM and Florida meet.



We play 6 freshman on defense for almost 20 minutes average each.

Some guy on the message boards who is a lunatic broke down the playing time of each guys minutes etc and according to his research Florida's younger guys played more quality minutes than Miami's younger guys. I wouldnt argue this until you go check it out for yourself. I didnt do the research on this but judging by the time and effort he put in, I am guessing he is right.

Bottom line the numbers dont lie. What I do know is Florida played 21 sophomore and 8 freshmen, and Miami played 11 sophomore and 18 freshmen. Both teams played 29 frosh/soph. Miami is definitely young, but Florida wasnt running around with some senior-laden team either. Miami played and started more seniors than Florida did.



Our D-Line has two stud freshmen, two future phenom's at LB, and a couple of future stars at DB. I think its safe to say that in the next two years (also some this year) opponents will be feeling a bit of pain when coming across these boys. Our offense is obviously behind our defense but I'm very optimstic having half a dozen guys that receive decent playing time which includes two QB's, OL's, and a couple Wide outs.

UM definitely has young talent. But at the same time, Florida had lots of young talent on the field as well, and they obviously didnt do too shabby themselves. The guy who blocked the punt, Demps, is a true freshman. Demps and Rainey are 2 of our main Rbs and both are freshmen. Patchan and Hunter on the D-line are freshmen. My point is, both teams had young talent out there except for at QB, and the final score was 26-3. Make no mistake, this was not seniors 26, freshmen 3. This was young talent 26, young talent 3. That is the big point a lot of people are missing.



Unlike Mayer we actually give our youngin's a decent amount of reps early on.

This is just absolutely as far from the truth as you can get - this statement is just flat out wrong. I dont even need to go into research or anything because Joe Haden started as a true freshman corner last year, Major Wright was starting at safety, Matt Patchan is starting or getting signifcant time on the D-line, freshmen RBs Rainey and Demps are all over the place, once Hunter gets back that will be another true freshman on the D-line for Florida, Tebow obviously got plenty of action as a true freshman with Leak at QB, Percy Harvin got lots of playing time as a freshman. Pouncey played last year as a freshman. Meyer has shown throughout his coaching tenure at UF that he will not only play A LOT of young guys but he will start them. I dont know where this statement came from. Meyer is actually one of the "top" coaches in the country in regrds to playing and starting his younger players as the numbers back it.



What really matters over everything else is that in two years we'll be a top 10 team and I'm willing to back that statement up with a little cash for any takers.

I disagree. Miami will be a nice team, and they will probably be ranked because they will rack up some wins in the ACC, but top 10 team is a stretch unless the ACC is so bad that they just cruise through their conference schedule. In that case, they will be a very overrated top 10 team with poor coaching, an average at best offense and a good defense and they will be exposed and lose their bowl game.

I'm not doing any internet bets with people I dont know, but the bottom line is Randy Shannon is not a good head coach and he needs to return to the defensive coordinator.

He played that game scared. He didnt come out the way a program-changing head coach would have. East Carolina has a program-changing coach who goes out there and plays to win, regardless of the opponent. Cincinnati has a program changing coach that plays to win. Randy Shannon played not to get blown out. He played conservative, he played scared, he was the underdog, and he didnt use that to his advantage. They had nothing to lose. As a "U" fan, I would be pissed that he took the game out of his players hands and allowed Florida to stack 8 guys in the box everytime. Horrendous gameplan on offense, punting the ball away with 8 mins left and down 2 possessions, didnt continue to attack and played straight up on defense at the end of the game. He quit and conceded the loss, which may be a nice classy thing to do, but it sets a poor example for his players. You play 4 quarters, all out, 100% or get off the field. Thats why his team got trashed in the 4th quarter last year. Thats why his team got trashed in the 4th quarter on Saturday. Thats why his players quit on him at the end of last year. Thats why they'll quit on him moving forward.

Mark my words, Randy Shannon will be on a VERY hot seat or out at UM as head coach in 4 years.


Our defense man handled your offense throughout the majority of the game (3 quarters). We had 7 tackles for losses including Spence's sack. You scored mostly due to special teams and our lack of offense efficiency. Yes penalties helped but I think our defense had a lot to do with that. We simply got you out of rhythm and rattled Tim some.

So a lineman gong downfield and putting a block on a guy after the whistle blows and putting Florida in a 2nd and 22 is because of the UM defense? And Percy Harvin accidentally not lining up on the line of scrimmage, which negates a 40 yd TD pass to Luis Murphy for a TD was because of the UM defense? I can see how a false start or holding penalty would be because of defense, but not those penalties. I can see how a dropped ball going over the middle of the field would be because of defense, but not a guy tripping over his own feet in front of the first down marker.
 

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A few comments:
Bryce Brown is the man.
Canes are considered a young team b/c most of their skill position players on offense are freshman and sophomores.
Hard for a D to get that many stops when the O can't sustain a drive.
Canes will be a top 10 team in 2 years. They are clearly rebuilding. If you look at 2006 and 2007 they did not have a top 10 recruiting class where they should be every year.


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Hard for the D to get that many stops when MIami cant sustain a drive? Miami lead time of possession. They did a drive from the 1st to 2nd quarter that ate up A TON of time and kept Tebow and co. on the sidelines. They had some 3rd down conversions with Marve's scrambling. Florida had 3 MAYBE 4 offensive possession in the entire 1st half. Part of the reason they only had 9 points going into halftime.
 

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Dont talk trash about a team with 40 freshmen who are CLEARLY rebuilding. Thats just stupid. But then again, my girlfriend just graduated from UF, and she is still an idiot.

And on another note, the classless Gaytor coach did a nice job of running up the score at the end with 1 minute to play by trying to pass twice and then kicking that fieldgoal. That shows how classy that coach really is.

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no different that any other jealous fans; .


Jealous of what?

Your 2 national titles, neither season concluded with an undefeated Florida team.

Your 3 Heisman trophies?

Your so many NFL busts?

Your losses in 6 in 7 games vs Miami?

Your lesser number of NFL Pro Bowlers and 1st round picks?

Your number of wide receivers that turned out to be complete busts in the NFL?

Anything else that I left that Miami should be jealous of when compared to Florida?

Their 33 Game winning streak? Oh, wait Maimi was the team that had a 33 game winning streak?

It would be nice if Florida could put an entire season together without a loss, when was UF's last undefeated season 1916?

Jealous because you guys beat OSU? Jealous because you guys on lost by 38 in a national title game?


Since 1983, Miami won 5 National Titles - '83, '87, '89, '91, 01. They played in the title game in 1986, 1992, 2002, were robbed in 2001?

What has Florida done in the since 1983, won 2 Heismans' and 2 National titles, managed to lose by 38 in a title game and go 1-6 vs Miami?
 
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Hard for the D to get that many stops when MIami cant sustain a drive? Miami lead time of possession. They did a drive from the 1st to 2nd quarter that ate up A TON of time and kept Tebow and co. on the sidelines. They had some 3rd down conversions with Marve's scrambling. Florida had 3 MAYBE 4 offensive possession in the entire 1st half. Part of the reason they only had 9 points going into halftime.

Exactly, when the Canes O moved the ball in the first 1/2 there D was fresh and made stops.

I am talking about second 1/2 namely the 4th Q when FL got most of there points.

Canes had a few very short drives which gave FL great field position as well as kept there D on the field.
 
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So? I'm looking at the guy who PLAYED last night. The guys who participated in the game. Florida played and started just as many young underclass guys as Miami. How many freshmen that are on the practice squad and listed on the roster doesnt matter much when UM and Florida meet.

I'm aware and we played more freshman than you did. We have over a dozen freshman playing significant minutes while you only have a couple. Now having said this I agree that both teams are indeed young. I'm not one to use excuses because of youth. I had the "U" +23 small and pushed. Your team is young and I think they are the favorites to win the SEC (naturally it will be decide by a possession here and there) as I've stated in prior posts.

Some guy on the message boards who is a lunatic broke down the playing time of each guys minutes etc and according to his research Florida's younger guys played more quality minutes than Miami's younger guys. I wouldnt argue this until you go check it out for yourself. I didnt do the research on this but judging by the time and effort he put in, I am guessing he is right.

Bottom line the numbers dont lie. What I do know is Florida played 21 sophomore and 8 freshmen, and Miami played 11 sophomore and 18 freshmen. Both teams played 29 frosh/soph. Miami is definitely young, but Florida wasnt running around with some senior-laden team either. Miami played and started more seniors than Florida did.

Our seniors are mostly in the line/secondary positions and are backed up/play along the side of freshman who play significant minutes. Like I said talent wise we'll be the elite in our respective conferences. Obviously with your conference typically more competitive due to the recruiting prowess of your rivals we'll have more room for error (see Randy Shannon).

UM definitely has young talent. But at the same time, Florida had lots of young talent on the field as well, and they obviously didnt do too shabby themselves. The guy who blocked the punt, Demps, is a true freshman. Demps and Rainey are 2 of our main Rbs and both are freshmen. Patchan and Hunter on the D-line are freshmen. My point is, both teams had young talent out there except for at QB, and the final score was 26-3. Make no mistake, this was not seniors 26, freshmen 3. This was young talent 26, young talent 3. That is the big point a lot of people are missing.

I'm a huge high school fan so I'm aware of all incoming frosh and I know all of Demps/Rainey's accolades. My girlfriend attends UF so I'm in tune to your alma maters program more so than others.



This is just absolutely as far from the truth as you can get - this statement is just flat out wrong. I dont even need to go into research or anything because Joe Haden started as a true freshman corner last year, Major Wright was starting at safety, Matt Patchan is starting or getting signifcant time on the D-line, freshmen RBs Rainey and Demps are all over the place, once Hunter gets back that will be another true freshman on the D-line for Florida, Tebow obviously got plenty of action as a true freshman with Leak at QB, Percy Harvin got lots of playing time as a freshman. Pouncey played last year as a freshman. Meyer has shown throughout his coaching tenure at UF that he will not only play A LOT of young guys but he will start them. I dont know where this statement came from. Meyer is actually one of the "top" coaches in the country in regrds to playing and starting his younger players as the numbers back it.


Your elite frosh get a lot of action without a doubt but not your "mid level recruits". I have deep respect for Meyer and I understand his approach. He simply needs to put the best kids out there and thats what he does. Simply stating that he doesn't utilize heavy rotation with his kids.


I disagree. Miami will be a nice team, and they will probably be ranked because they will rack up some wins in the ACC, but top 10 team is a stretch unless the ACC is so bad that they just cruise through their conference schedule. In that case, they will be a very overrated top 10 team with poor coaching, an average at best offense and a good defense and they will be exposed and lose their bowl game.

I'm not doing any internet bets with people I dont know, but the bottom line is Randy Shannon is not a good head coach and he needs to return to the defensive coordinator.

He played that game scared. He didnt come out the way a program-changing head coach would have. East Carolina has a program-changing coach who goes out there and plays to win, regardless of the opponent. Cincinnati has a program changing coach that plays to win. Randy Shannon played not to get blown out. He played conservative, he played scared, he was the underdog, and he didnt use that to his advantage. They had nothing to lose. As a "U" fan, I would be pissed that he took the game out of his players hands and allowed Florida to stack 8 guys in the box everytime. Horrendous gameplan on offense, punting the ball away with 8 mins left and down 2 possessions, didnt continue to attack and played straight up on defense at the end of the game. He quit and conceded the loss, which may be a nice classy thing to do, but it sets a poor example for his players. You play 4 quarters, all out, 100% or get off the field. Thats why his team got trashed in the 4th quarter last year. Thats why his team got trashed in the 4th quarter on Saturday. Thats why his players quit on him at the end of last year. Thats why they'll quit on him moving forward.

Mark my words, Randy Shannon will be on a VERY hot seat or out at UM as head coach in 4 years.

Our recruting will supersede the liability that is Randy Shannon. Ala Mack Brown he is not a good in-game coach but he needs to be the face of the team. With only a handful of black or should I say African-American head coaches the program is obviously his "ability to relate" to their advantage. Unless he drops the ball completely from 2010-2014 I do not for see him being ousted from his rank. They have already received a commitment from the best running back in the nation and have kids lined up for visits.

Inside scoop: I speak to a few of the players on a daily basis and their admiration for the man is as deep as a son's for his fathers. Players look up to him and he simply as a figure ala Paterno/Brown/Bowden. Difference is he's African-American so it will appear more so sincere.

After game buzz: On the late late field goal make that UF used to cover/push most spreads Shannon will merely use that to his advantage. This is the buzz down here at least.

So a lineman gong downfield and putting a block on a guy after the whistle blows and putting Florida in a 2nd and 22 is because of the UM defense? And Percy Harvin accidentally not lining up on the line of scrimmage, which negates a 40 yd TD pass to Luis Murphy for a TD was because of the UM defense? I can see how a false start or holding penalty would be because of defense, but not those penalties. I can see how a dropped ball going over the middle of the field would be because of defense, but not a guy tripping over his own feet in front of the first down marker.

No quesition our defense wasn't completely stellar. Just saying I saw signs out there that showed me how dominant they will become. Man-handled may have been poor choice of words but they did have a physical approach in which reminded me of our glory years. Lets not forget that our best DE is out for the year (also another decent DT is out as well). Bottom line (not to be redundant) our defense will be dominant maybe by as early as next year.



BTW I won't bet anyone online either I simply was trying to make a point. We willl be Top 10 simply due to the upgrades on the O-Line/RB/WR positions by 2010. I know who's there and who's coming. I'm rarely wrong and if I am you can remind me of it (As Alfred told Bruce in Dark Knight).
 

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I have to laugh at everyone including Randy Shannon who complain that UF ran the score up with the late FG. Isn't this the same Randy Shannon that just last week went for it from like the 42 yard line already up 45-7 and on like 4th and 3 go for it instead of punting. This leads to a TD drive. Shannon complain that the Gators kick a FG when Miami just the previous week on 4th and 3 instead of punting run it up themselves. Isn't this the same Randy Shannon whose playing days at Miami consisted of being the originators or trying to run the score up on teams. Anyone remember that run up in the day on Notre Dame?? I love looking back on that 87 Chmapionship. Way to end the year with 6 home games in a row. That's tough.

Quit complaining about someone running the score up Miami wanna be's. Don't live in the old days of Glory with Championships and not take the flack from running the score up those days as well.

As far as the series between these two schools, I am so tired of hearing about how the Gators haven't won in the past 6 meetings. Well now we have and the overall series is lead by Miami with the all time record against the Gators 28-26-0. Wtg on the 2 game edge. I am glad your 6 wins in a row "FINALLY" got you on the winning side of the series. Prior to those wins you were losing 22-25.

So reflect on your ass whiping; Quit complaining about the score being run up; Quit using youth as an excuse and go play in the sucky ACC.
 

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I have to laugh at everyone including Randy Shannon who complain that UF ran the score up with the late FG. Isn't this the same Randy Shannon that just last week went for it from like the 42 yard line already up 45-7 and on like 4th and 3 go for it instead of punting. This leads to a TD drive. Shannon complain that the Gators kick a FG when Miami just the previous week on 4th and 3 instead of punting run it up themselves. Isn't this the same Randy Shannon whose playing days at Miami consisted of being the originators or trying to run the score up on teams. Anyone remember that run up in the day on Notre Dame?? I love looking back on that 87 Chmapionship. Way to end the year with 6 home games in a row. That's tough.

Quit complaining about someone running the score up Miami wanna be's. Don't live in the old days of Glory with Championships and not take the flack from running the score up those days as well.

As far as the series between these two schools, I am so tired of hearing about how the Gators haven't won in the past 6 meetings. Well now we have and the overall series is lead by Miami with the all time record against the Gators 28-26-0. Wtg on the 2 game edge. I am glad your 6 wins in a row "FINALLY" got you on the winning side of the series. Prior to those wins you were losing 22-25.

So reflect on your ass whiping; Quit complaining about the score being run up; Quit using youth as an excuse and go play in the sucky ACC.


First, let me say I am not a fan of either team, but its not like you guys beat the shit out of them. You got BS call on catch. You had 35 yard drive for the 1st 3 quarters.

I know people in the south are slow and stupid, but really not necessary for your to reaffirm it everytime.
 

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Jealous of what?

Your 2 national titles, neither season concluded with an undefeated Florida team.

Your 3 Heisman trophies?

Your so many NFL busts?

Your losses in 6 in 7 games vs Miami?

Your lesser number of NFL Pro Bowlers and 1st round picks?

Your number of wide receivers that turned out to be complete busts in the NFL?

Anything else that I left that Miami should be jealous of when compared to Florida?

Their 33 Game winning streak? Oh, wait Maimi was the team that had a 33 game winning streak?

It would be nice if Florida could put an entire season together without a loss, when was UF's last undefeated season 1916?

Jealous because you guys beat OSU? Jealous because you guys on lost by 38 in a national title game?


Since 1983, Miami won 5 National Titles - '83, '87, '89, '91, 01. They played in the title game in 1986, 1992, 2002, were robbed in 2001?

What has Florida done in the since 1983, won 2 Heismans' and 2 National titles, managed to lose by 38 in a title game and go 1-6 vs Miami?


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First, let me say I am not a fan of either team, but its not like you guys beat the shit out of them. You got BS call on catch. You had 35 yard drive for the 1st 3 quarters.

I know people in the south are slow and stupid, but really not necessary for your to reaffirm it everytime.


I love it. The big ten dominator calls the south slow. hahaha. Either your an Ohio State blackeye fan that gets beat by the "slow" SEC every year or your a team in the big ten that gets beat by the SEC's blackeye's whipping post. Go get your bigtendominated ass whipped next week by USC!
 

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I love it. The big ten dominator calls the south slow. hahaha. Either your an Ohio State blackeye fan that gets beat by the "slow" SEC every year or your a team in the big ten that gets beat by the SEC's blackeye's whipping post. Go get your bigtendominated ass whipped next week by USC!

How many national titles has Florida won compared to OSU?
Heisman Trophies?
1st Round Picks?
Number of Players Currently in the NFL?
Number of players drafted?
Number of HOFers?
Number of Undefeated Seasons?

I will save you the time you, you do not exceed OSU in any.

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I love it. The big ten dominator calls the south slow. hahaha. Either your an Ohio State blackeye fan that gets beat by the "slow" SEC every year or your a team in the big ten that gets beat by the SEC's blackeye's whipping post. Go get your bigtendominated ass whipped next week by USC!


Wasn't Florida the team that lost to Michigan last season in a bowl game?
 

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I love people throwing Miami's 5 NCs in our face when they cheated to get 3 of them and landed them on probation for a decade. And what does going undefeated have to do with anything? The only ones that go undefeated are the ones that play in bitch conferences like the Little11 or the Pac1+9. At least the Pac1+9 is stepping up a little with competition this year. The little11 is still a farce.

And please stop with the 1-6 crap. It was Miami that refused to play UF all through the 90s when they would have had their asses handed to them repeatedly.

As for playing freshmen: Demps, Rainey, Janoris Jenkins, Sturgis, Patchan, Paul Wilson, Omar Hunter, Will Hill, John Jones, James Wilson, Willie Green, David Young, Pridemore, V Brown, and more I cant think of. That's 14 freshmen. Stop with the typical Miamuh hyperbole. Florida has played as many rookies as anyone.
 

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How many national titles has Florida won compared to OSU?
Heisman Trophies?
1st Round Picks?
Number of Players Currently in the NFL?
Number of players drafted?
Number of HOFers?
Number of Undefeated Seasons?

I will save you the time you, you do not exceed OSU in any.

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Fucking ******!

Um I think Florida has 3 heisman trophies and Miami has 2. What was the point to the Heisman question? To point out that Florida has more Heismans? I don't get it. You are wanting to show that Florida has more heisman trophy winners??? That's kind of stupid!!!! LOL. You're a dumb ass!!! How many does Florida have???? hahahahaha. Dumbass


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