http://abc7chicago.com/news/girl-18-shot-in-head-expected-to-fully-recover/169320/
Just walked up to her and shot her in the head mid day.
Just walked up to her and shot her in the head mid day.
If those Cliven Bundy Militia Nut cases want to do something useful for American Society, instead of threatenning Federal Officials doing their job, with guns, while defending a deadbeat racist, why don't they take their big bad selves and their guns to Chicago, and help clean up the mean streets there? Set up Citizen patrols to help the innocent people living there.
You are talking about two very different things. Laws being enforced and the sentencing for the crime. How do you know laws in Chicago are only sporadically enforced? Do you have a study or source that shows this? Yes, an automatic 25 years is a deterrent if the law is passed and action is taken in the court of law.
I think it is pretty clear that it is not being enforced. The proof is the 81 or how many shootings in one weekend.
Up my way we have a mandatory year just for possession of a firearm without a license. Do you think all the scumbags want to go to prison for a year just for having a gun in thier vehicle? Of course not. Yet every day people get caught with them
I would be willing to bet that the great majority if not all of the people who committed those 80+ shootings last weekend have a criminal record of some kind. But the problem is these people are willing to commit crimes if it means going to jail for just a few months or a year. In fact it's a rite of passage fro many gang members. A year is nothing. But 25 years gives them something to think about..
I understand what you are saying. Believe me, I do. My greater point is that there are existing gun laws on the books. These laws are not being vehemently enforced. The scumbag politicians just want to stand in front of the TV cameras and say that "they enacted new stricter gun laws, oh and BTW, I'm up for re-election and I could use your vote."
Maybe the police need more resources. If they do then that should be the discussion.
OK, I'll walk down the road with you........
Are all of the people doing the shootings licensed handgun owners?
Yet do they have weapons?
Are there laws on the books criminalizing the possession of handguns yet are they possessing said guns anyways?
Depending on how you answered, they are breaking the law. Hence the laws are not being enforced.
No, I haven't conducted any studies, I'm just going out on a limb here.
There are laws on the books saying you can't speed either while driving a car yet people go over the speed limit don't they? That doesn't mean cops aren't enforcing the law. It just means they don't have the resources to enforce it each time it happens. Guy buys an illegal firearm on the street corner. He walks from the street corner into a market and kills 9 people. It doesn't mean they (cops) aren't enforcing the law.
And that's the point. How many people in Chicago were arrested last week in Chicago for carrying an illegal firearm? Do you have those statistics? No you don't so you have no leg to stand on in regards to whether they (law enforcement) are enforcing gun laws or not. Your argument would be valid if zero people had been arrested for carrying illegal firearms but we both know that's not true.
I'm getting a headache trying to explain you have no clue if they enforce the laws or not. Because people get shot, it means they aren't enforcing the laws? That's ludicrous. Show me with some stats or studies with definitive proof, cops in Chicago are not making arrests. Don't pull it out of your ass or guess. Show it. If not, you have no argument.
