4 of 5 is 4 of 5 and it's tough enough to win all 3 of your home games against Detroit. To have to ALSO beat them on their homecourt in the midst of sweeping them at home, is a tall order. It's not impossible I just dont feel it's likely. This is coming from a nuetral observor, I really dont care who wins.
Get my numbers right??
They were down 2-0 coming in, which meant they needed to win 4 of 5 to win the series. If they win the series, it will mean they won 4 of 5, why is this difficult to comprehend?
If they DONT win all 3 of their home games, it will mean they need to win 2 straight in Detroit. Good luck with that.
They were down 2-0 coming in, which meant they needed to win 4 of 5 to win the series. If they win the series, it will mean they won 4 of 5, why is this difficult to comprehend?
If they DONT win all 3 of their home games, it will mean they need to win 2 straight in Detroit. Good luck with that.
I get what you're saying but get this:
Game 3 is already over. You're talking as if it was still yesterday. Series is 2-1. Cavs need to win 3 of 4 to take the series. You keep saying 4 of 5 as if they still need to win 4 games. Readjust your #s to the present tense - they need to win 3 of 4, its as simple as that, Einstein
AND they dont need to win 3 of their home games, they already won 1, so they only need to win 2. Once again, you're living in the past as if it was yesterday. Cavs only have 2 more home games, not sure how they can win 3 more at home. You must have been a math major at Clown College
You're analyzing it through your Piston colored sunglasses. I'm stating it from present day, I'm pointing out objective #s, you're the one who's wrong.
"Cavs need to win 4 of 5" False - Cavs need to win 3 of 4.
If youre analyzing it as a WHOLE, why not say "Cavs need to win 4 of 7" You chose to make your statments biased so it makes it seems harder for the Cavs. Take your schoolboy tricks back to the playground
If you had half a brain, you'd realize neither one of us is technically 'wrong', just looking at it from DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES!
And no, I'm not a Pistons fan, I'm a fan of the EAST. I just don't think Cleveland is very good and haven't seen enough yet to change my opinion of that. They had a 1st rd bye, then beat an average Nets team, and are now playing a Detroit team, which last yr showed, is a team they match up very well with.
LeBron is THE MAN. The rest of his team BLOWS. It will be an embarrassment for the Eastern Conference to have them playing against the Spurs. Detroit would put up a much better fight, I dont think many people would argue this.
By having Cleveland in the finals people will just continue to say how far ahead the West is ahead of the East. I actually believe Detroit has a real chance to beat S.A and it would be fantastic for the East to knock off the West in the Finals for THREE straight years.
You don't seriously believe Cleveland would have a prayer against the Spurs, do you? I understand you're a Cavs fan and want to see it happen, but deep down, you know what's what (I think).
And no, I'm not a Pistons fan, I'm a fan of the EAST. I just don't think Cleveland is very good and haven't seen enough yet to change my opinion of that. They had a 1st rd bye, then beat an average Nets team, and are now playing a Detroit team, which last yr showed, is a team they match up very well with.
LeBron is THE MAN. The rest of his team BLOWS. It will be an embarrassment for the Eastern Conference to have them playing against the Spurs. Detroit would put up a much better fight, I dont think many people would argue this.
By having Cleveland in the finals people will just continue to say how far ahead the West is ahead of the East. I actually believe Detroit has a real chance to beat S.A and it would be fantastic for the East to knock off the West in the Finals for THREE straight years.
You don't seriously believe Cleveland would have a prayer against the Spurs, do you? I understand you're a Cavs fan and want to see it happen, but deep down, you know what's what (I think).
Would the Pistons have a better chance agains the Spurs though? Detroit needed the Cavs to miss 2 last second shots to steal Games 1 and 2, and they lost Game 3 by 6 pts. All Detroit has done is hold home court advantage, as expected. If the Pistons cant completely dominate the Cavs, who's to say they'll do any better against the Spurs, a much better overall team that capitalizes on your mistakes and makes very few of their own?
IMO, either Detroit or Cleveland will lose 4-1 to the Spurs, it wont matter who the Easts sends to the Finals
It's all about matchups. Cleveland took Detroit to the brink last season, and will probably do it again.
Detroit beat up the Spurs in the Finals 2 yrs ago with the same team minus Ben Wallace. The Pistons play a very similar game to the Spurs and can match them in the halfcourt and defensively. What Detroit has vs the Spurs that Clev doesnt is multiple shotmakers in the halfcourt. Chancey, Hamilton, Wallace, Prince, and to a lesser extent McDyess and Webber. Cleveland has LeBron and uh LeBron. Yea, Gibson, Hughes and Marshall will stick an occasional J, and Ilgauskas does his thing but that team is so damn erratic on offense and the NBA Finals stage vs a dynasty like S.A would be too daunting. The main thing the Pistons have vs the Spurs that Cleveland doesnt, is massive experience.
Detroit beat up the Spurs in the Finals 2 yrs ago with the same team minus Ben Wallace. The Pistons play a very similar game to the Spurs and can match them in the halfcourt and defensively. What Detroit has vs the Spurs that Clev doesnt is multiple shotmakers in the halfcourt. Chancey, Hamilton, Wallace, Prince, and to a lesser extent McDyess and Webber. Cleveland has LeBron and uh LeBron. Yea, Gibson, Hughes and Marshall will stick an occasional J, and Ilgauskas does his thing but that team is so damn erratic on offense and the NBA Finals stage vs a dynasty like S.A would be too daunting. The main thing the Pistons have vs the Spurs that Cleveland doesnt, is massive experience.
Not to compare Lebron to Jordan (cuz he isnt), but MJ didnt exactly have the best supporting cast either. He had Pippen, and thats about it. Buncha stiffs at center and PF, and just good shooters who could knock down open shots that Jordan would create for them. Bulls won 6 titles with a superstar-led team, rather than 5 team-oriented good players like the Pistons have.
John Paxson and Steve Kerr were dead-eye snipers that rarely missed the open looks Jordan created for them.
Cleveland has no such role player that excels at nailing open jumpers consistently.
Also, Scottie Pippen was 1 of the 50 greatest players of all time and was also an ace defender. Do not downplay his importance. Cleveland doesnt have a #2 part in the same stratosphere. Plus, it took MJ 4 years to solve the Pistons puzzle.
And let's not forget Dennis Rodman, arguably the greatest rebounder in NBA history.
Cleveland isnt in the same world as the Bulls teams.
Cleveland has no such role player that excels at nailing open jumpers consistently.
Also, Scottie Pippen was 1 of the 50 greatest players of all time and was also an ace defender. Do not downplay his importance. Cleveland doesnt have a #2 part in the same stratosphere. Plus, it took MJ 4 years to solve the Pistons puzzle.
And let's not forget Dennis Rodman, arguably the greatest rebounder in NBA history.
Cleveland isnt in the same world as the Bulls teams.
I think the winner of Game 4 will win the series. I can't believe how big Cleveland Calfs defense is stepping up. They should actually be up 3-0 in this series right now.
Seems like Billups and Prince haven't been able to get off all series long. Rip had a shitty game today. Rasheed has been huge and Webber finally had a decent game.
Whatever Coach Brown is doing I think he should stick with it. Would not be surprised to see the Calfs rip off 3 in a row the way they are stepping up on defense.
Flip Saunders ought to try some zone defense or do something because he isn't making that good adjustments. Even though they lead the series 2-1, Flip is being out coached here.
Probably a play on the Cavs in Game 4, spread depending.
Seems like Billups and Prince haven't been able to get off all series long. Rip had a shitty game today. Rasheed has been huge and Webber finally had a decent game.
Whatever Coach Brown is doing I think he should stick with it. Would not be surprised to see the Calfs rip off 3 in a row the way they are stepping up on defense.
Flip Saunders ought to try some zone defense or do something because he isn't making that good adjustments. Even though they lead the series 2-1, Flip is being out coached here.
Probably a play on the Cavs in Game 4, spread depending.
Definitely not saying Cavs are anywhere close to the Bulls, Im not insane. Just merely pointing out that a superstar-led team CAN in fact win a championship. In fact, 6 championships. Rationally, one would think that a TEAM of 5 great players would demolish one SUPERSTAR, but Jordan showed them time and again he was the best. Once in a blue moon, we come upon a superstar who can single-handedly lead his team to the title. Is Lebron that guy? Probably not this year, but soon enough he will be.
Cavs need to fire Mike Brown, get some consistent jump shooters (trade Marshall and Larry Hughes and Drew Gooden), and a defensive point guard who can pass alley-oops to Lebron.
Show me a superstar who last won a title without at least one other "star" (at least a 2nd all-star) on his team...
Wade - Shaq
Kobe - Shaq
Jordan - Pippen
Duncan - Robinson - Parker
Duncan - Parker - Ginobili
Billups - Hamilton - Sheed - BenWallace
Olajuwon - Drexler
Before them you're going back to the great Pistons teams in the 80s, and of course the loaded Lakers, Celtics, Sixers squads.
Bottom line is you need at least 2 big stars on your team.
Wade - Shaq
Kobe - Shaq
Jordan - Pippen
Duncan - Robinson - Parker
Duncan - Parker - Ginobili
Billups - Hamilton - Sheed - BenWallace
Olajuwon - Drexler
Before them you're going back to the great Pistons teams in the 80s, and of course the loaded Lakers, Celtics, Sixers squads.
Bottom line is you need at least 2 big stars on your team.
Yea, and so has Jamaal Magloire - I think you get my basic point, by STAR I mean STAR STAR. Z and Magloire made the all-star team because the best 6 centers were all in the West. Doesnt mean he's a great player because he's far from it. I shouldve known someone would pick apart the words in my post and misinterpret them. I should replace "star" with "great player".
