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For the guys who have been smoking for 40 years is it not possible that you tolerance is higher and it just doesn't have the same effect on you as it did 40 years ago? Or that maybe weed is just more potent so it's not that same enlightening high?
 

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Insanity. Today's pot is 100x better than what was available in the 90s much less the 70s.

and today's digital recordings just cannot compare with good ol' vinyl records :)
 

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Hey BAS, thanks for doing a little research and posting another voice of reason here. I suppose its all subjective but most of these guys equate stronger with better. Its like saying cheap 200 proof alcohol is better than a fine vodka or wine cause its stronger.

Anyways my work in this thread is done. I can't reason with people who dont understand the scientific history of this subject and have never sampled the real thing. Cheers

I am personal friends with many of the key individuals who led the various drives to change marijuana laws starting in NY and CA during the 1970s and onwards. Those same people were the leads in the first days of legal cultivation in California 1997. Most had (have) detailed experience enjoying the many forms of great marijuana marketed (illicitly) in the USA going back to the 60s and 70s.


To suggest that these folks have somehow allowed all the "real stuff" to go to the wayside while they settle for off-quality replicant cannabis strains is fairly amusing and mostly preposterous.

The legal cannabis industry in 2017 certaintly has it's share of "20 year old budtenders" working in the retail outlets. But the botanical brains and big money players are far more often in my own demographic - aged 55-75 with 40,50 and 60 years experience as active consumers.

If you are not able to find product today that happily replicates your own experiences of years gone-by you are not trying hard enough.
 

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For the guys who have been smoking for 40 years is it not possible that you tolerance is higher and it just doesn't have the same effect on you as it did 40 years ago? Or that maybe weed is just more potent so it's not that same enlightening high?

That's a relevant point of observation. I am in my 43rd year of mostly chronic and most often daily usage.

So yes, I require a higher grade of product, whether it be flower or specifically made oils.

But I also have no trouble abstaining for a few days at a time and upon occasion a couple of weeks after which fresh intake works Plenty Fine.

Potato chips taste better, romance with my wife is better, ice cream is better and my favorite cuts of music last twice as long :)
 
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Hey BAS, thanks for doing a little research and posting another voice of reason here. I suppose its all subjective but most of these guys equate stronger with better. Its like saying cheap 200 proof alcohol is better than a fine vodka or wine cause its stronger.

Anyways my work in this thread is done. I can't reason with people who dont understand the scientific history of this subject and have never sampled the real thing. Cheers

Well like I said, I'm an old fart. lol

Well maybe not, I don't act my age ... and Much more Young Hearted

Anyway, My old stoner friends all say the same ... they aren't saying Today's weed Sucks.. they are saying It's Not like back in the day
a Different, more Pure High back in the day.
Wish i could get my buddy on the Rx, because he knows all the technical stuff about growing, he worked at a place back in the 70's and he was the guy
that we All went to, to get the best out there.
He's the one that told me where to look for that last article i posted. He said that example used in that article is everything in a Nutshell ..
Always said what they are doing Today is creating frankenstein's monster. Where back in the day there was nothing to 'Clone' or mix to make some of the best weed
around.

It's like the saying how Cars are much better Today because of the technology. But they aren't Built as good / Solid as they were back in the day.

It's only our opinion. We can go on and on
 
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I am personal friends with many of the key individuals who led the various drives to change marijuana laws starting in NY and CA during the 1970s and onwards. Those same people were the leads in the first days of legal cultivation in California 1997. Most had (have) detailed experience enjoying the many forms of great marijuana marketed (illicitly) in the USA going back to the 60s and 70s.


To suggest that these folks have somehow allowed all the "real stuff" to go to the wayside while they settle for off-quality replicant cannabis strains is fairly amusing and mostly preposterous.

The legal cannabis industry in 2017 certaintly has it's share of "20 year old budtenders" working in the retail outlets. But the botanical brains and big money players are far more often in my own demographic - aged 55-75 with 40,50 and 60 years experience as active consumers.

If you are not able to find product today that happily replicates your own experiences of years gone-by you are not trying hard enough.

I think he's questioning more the Genetically engineered way of Today.

Sure you can make a better "Mouse Trap" after trying different ways to make it better, but is it as Good as the original ??

I might have to come out of retirement to see for myself :)
 

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Insanity. Today's pot is 100x better than what was available in the 90s much less the 70s.

the skunk weed came around in the 80's. This us when weed turned the corner. The real indica. You needed connections to get it. You didn't call your guy when you needed some. He called you when you could have some. It was good to be on the list. The weed was wonderful. It cost big money back then. $80 a quarter. And if you got an Oz. It was $320. No deal for volume. Life is good for the marijuana smoker as outstanding weed can be had for $240 an ounce. Most still pay $280-$300 for the good ( kush, northern lights, sour diesel) 30 years later and the price is the same. Funny thing is back then we were making $8-$10 an hour. These days making $30-$35 an hour, weed is such a bargain, that we smoke a lot more.

Side note in 1982 beer was $5 a twelve pack. Starting salary $7.50 an hour.
Now in 2017. Beer is only about $10-$15 a twelve pack . Salary $32.47 an hour.

Beer and weed weed are good value.
 

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Question forr anyone with experience with this and flower......for someone that consumes about 1/4 oz a week of flower, how much would 1/2 gram of the oil last?
 

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Question forr anyone with experience with this and flower......for someone that consumes about 1/4 oz a week of flower, how much would 1/2 gram of the oil last?

depends on the percentage. a pen like the original post filled with 85-90% would last about a week. i smoke about 1 gram of flower a week and it would last me well over a month
 

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Full term outdoor cannabis will always better than indoor. Especially in a climate controlled greenhouse. Can't replicate the sun.
when you say cannabis oil, I think you're referring to concentrates(wax,shatter,rosin). FECO (fully extracted cannabis oil) not to be confused with RSO oil. There are many ways to extract. I started used bho in 2012 and stopped in 2015. Bho method of extraction is utilizing butane. Rosin is made with heat and pressure. You can press flowers with plates(200 degrees) for flower, (95-100) for hash(ice water bubble hash). The best feco(cbd) oil is made with more than one cbd profile. Like 3-5 strains turned into one oil, more effective.

The argument for what era had the best is easily debatable. There are many variables that come into play. A lot of the genectics nowadays are hybrid. It's a lot to dive into. People still have landrace genetics. I personally only smoke flower and rosin. Just think about the process. After the cannabis is dried and cured, washed with ice water, the pressed at 100*. Doesn't get much better than that. Matt was correct, the healthiest way to comsume is with the volcano. Unfortunately that doesn't combust. Certain cannabinoids terpenes have different boiling points. Or you can freeze even before the dry. Wash it frozen.

Havent used a pen since 2015 either. Those aren't really vaporizers. Most have coils that heat up.

Another side note. Our biggest neurotransmitter receptor system is the endocannabinoid system. We have receptors all throughout our body, especially the brain. It regulates your whole body's homeostasis.
 

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Got a Rove brand pen, tried last night for first time. Good, but not sure I will be able to continue as it seems to go FAST and would be a good chunck of change at my rate
 
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Well like I said, I'm an old fart. lol

Well maybe not, I don't act my age ... and Much more Young Hearted

Anyway, My old stoner friends all say the same ... they aren't saying Today's weed Sucks.. they are saying It's Not like back in the day
a Different, more Pure High back in the day.
Wish i could get my buddy on the Rx, because he knows all the technical stuff about growing, he worked at a place back in the 70's and he was the guy
that we All went to, to get the best out there.
He's the one that told me where to look for that last article i posted. He said that example used in that article is everything in a Nutshell ..
Always said what they are doing Today is creating frankenstein's monster. Where back in the day there was nothing to 'Clone' or mix to make some of the best weed
around.

It's like the saying how Cars are much better Today because of the technology. But they aren't Built as good / Solid as they were back in the day.

It's only our opinion. We can go on and on

I am 63 and started smoking weed in early 70’s and still smoke daily today and I agree with your friends. Not saying quality weed today isn’t excellent but to me it’s not as good as the best weed I smoked back then. Only difference for me is I couldn’t always find quality weed back then but now it’s easy to get.
 
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Got a Rove brand pen, tried last night for first time. Good, but not sure I will be able to continue as it seems to go FAST and would be a good chunck of change at my rate

The Pen I got was $36, it says it's good for 90 good hits, whatever that means

not cheap, that's for sure
 
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I am 63 and started smoking weed in early 70’s and still smoke daily today and I agree with your friends. Not saying quality weed today isn’t excellent but to me it’s not as good as the best weed I smoked back then. Only difference for me is I couldn’t always find quality weed back then but now it’s easy to get.

yeah those were the days

I just want to know what or why the nasty stink is from most of today's weed ?
 

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yeah those were the days

I just want to know what or why the nasty stink is from most of today's weed ?

Because all of todays weed is grown using "skunk" genetics as its base. The growers have turned away from the "earthy" and "woodsy" sativa varieties of the past in favor of quick growing indica. The pursuit of the dollar. Basically, its a different plant than back in the day.
 

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My buddy in jersey just got approved on Tuesday . I think he said it was $400 for the dr visit , I dunno about insurance . There’s a spot near me that does it now , might as well go get mine now .. I’ve lived half my life as a ‘criminal’ between the sports betting and pot , now all of a sudden there’s nothing wrong with either, like I’ve been saying the whole fuckin time! There’s an old boat works near my house , they want to transform the plant into a marijuana growing facility. It’s gonna be poppin here in jersey once recreationals legalized.
 
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Because all of todays weed is grown using "skunk" genetics as its base. The growers have turned away from the "earthy" and "woodsy" sativa varieties of the past in favor of quick growing indica. The pursuit of the dollar. Basically, its a different plant than back in the day.

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My buddy in jersey just got approved on Tuesday . I think he said it was $400 for the dr visit , I dunno about insurance . There’s a spot near me that does it now , might as well go get mine now .. I’ve lived half my life as a ‘criminal’ between the sports betting and pot , now all of a sudden there’s nothing wrong with either, like I’ve been saying the whole fuckin time! There’s an old boat works near my house , they want to transform the plant into a marijuana growing facility. It’s gonna be poppin here in jersey once recreationals legalized.

See if your Primary Doctor can do it for you.

There a big Con going on with some Doctors , most Pain management offices were they have this " One " Doctor that can do it for you for $375, plus the $25 for the State app.

Two friends of mine got their Primary Doc to fill out the forms, etc .. cost them $20 co-pay, plus the $25 for state form.
 

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See if your Primary Doctor can do it for you.

There a big Con going on with some Doctors , most Pain management offices were they have this " One " Doctor that can do it for you for $375, plus the $25 for the State app.

Two friends of mine got their Primary Doc to fill out the forms, etc .. cost them $20 co-pay, plus the $25 for state form.

Ill have to ask him next time i visit.. the pain management places are popping up everywhere, thats where my friend went for $400. they put him on a payment plan
He texted me after he got approved and left the office and told me he got arrested for marijuana possession on the ride home. He asked me if he could bring his office visit receipt to court to get off since he doesn't have a medical card yet face)(*^% He's not fully retarded, but He's def been blessed with a slight touch of downsyndrome or something lol
 

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I can’t even make this shit up how dumb he is if I wanted to... he’s always good for a laugh


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