Can Oregon overcome their recruiting and win a National Championship?

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But not because of recruiting..which is the topic here. Pac 12 schools just don't know how to recruit. All we hear is Phil Knight this and that but he's not using his money to help recruiting
 

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But not because of recruiting..which is the topic here. Pac 12 schools just don't know how to recruit. All we hear is Phil Knight this and that but he's not using his money to help recruiting
With Oregon, they had some pretty good recruiting classes a few years ago. I believe they were #9 in Rivals recruiting in 2011. Which I think was a direct result of Knight pouring some money into their image and making Oregon a more attractive program. But the problem now is Kelly is no longer there, and fancy and colorful unis are no longer a new thing or the draw that it was 4 or 5 years ago. I'm sure that is at least part of the reason the Ducks recruiting has taken a hit...
 

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"Keeping with the topic," got a crackhead as the thread monitor...lord

Oregon has been a player in CFB for several years now...just because they lost 2 Big Ones doesn't take away from what the Ducks have accomplished. They have played at the highest level of late and will continue to.. I for one won't count them out in the future.

Can they beat a toughass, big, fast defensive line like comes from the SEC and what Meyers has adopted....got my doubts.
 

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I keep reading that we're getting the kids we want... I will continue to believe that as long as we are still a player.... BTW one thing overlooked besides the uniforms is the facilities here are the best in the country... once these recruits step into this culture we have a good shot at getting the recruit to sign...
 

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I keep reading that we're getting the kids we want... I will continue to believe that as long as we are still a player.... BTW one thing overlooked besides the uniforms is the facilities here are the best in the country... once these recruits step into this culture we have a good shot at getting the recruit to sign...

Best facilities according to who? There's no way to prove something that's opinion but I Googled ' best college football facilities ' and clicked a dozen links and not once was Oregon at the top. Top 10 accoring to most though so yes they have good facilities but not "the best"
 

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Best facilities according to who? There's no way to prove something that's opinion but I Googled ' best college football facilities ' and clicked a dozen links and not once was Oregon at the top. Top 10 accoring to most though so yes they have good facilities but not "the best"

Have to agree. The arms race has been so intense, its hard to say who has the best facilities. Other programs besides Oregon put a shit-ton of money into facilities. But their is definitely a small group of elites.
 

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lol ....1st place I checked was Bleacher Report

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Oregon benefits from the contributions provided by Nike's co-founder, Phil Knight.
We usually see this in the program's uniforms, which are many and varied.
Knight's donations to the Ducks helped build the new football facilities, which are absolutely stunning.
The Ducks are everywhere, from the "O" over the entrance, to the Ducks throwing away a beaver on top of the trash cans, this facility was built with Oregon football at its heart.
The locker room is two stories, and the lockers themselves cost nearly $26,000 apiece. There is also the The Moshofsky Sports Center, which was the first indoor practice facility and training center in the Pac-12, and is turned into a huge tailgating venue on game day.
Autzen Stadium is routinely ranked near the top of stadium rankings, and provides an incredible atmosphere for fans and players alike.
There are few programs that can match Oregon's excellence on the football field outside of the SEC, and even that conference has no facilities that equal Oregon's.
 

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ESPN has been slobbering over these facilities for a few years now also....
 

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Two year old opinion piece. Guys profile says Jay Cutler is underrated....im a bears fan, but what a load of shit.
 

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All of these modern football facilities are becoming part of the norm. I've seen Okie State's facilities in person. It would be hard for me to believe that anybody could top them. But just about everybody is making big upgrades. http://www.nbcsports.com/college-football/footballs-facility-arms-race-can-you-top

It is the norm. Everybody is doing upgrades. 50 million here, 100 million there, 300/400 million upgrades in some cases. Lets say we could entertain some arbitrary ranking of who was number one. The question would be from #1 to #2, to what degree of separation and for how long? In both cases, I'd say very little.
 

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do oregon recruits hope to affiliate themselves with nike after they leave? obv pro football but nike rep/employee if pro football doesn't work out or afterwards...

pretty cool although a little sketchy how closely affiliated nike is with UOregon..... i remember when oregon and OSU were really horrible
 

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the facillities is interesting... something that has/had? hurt umiami. other smaller private schools too. probably helps to have a huge student base and big state to pay for alot of this.
 

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the facillities is interesting... something that has/had? hurt umiami. other smaller private schools too. probably helps to have a huge student base and big state to pay for alot of this.
It also never hurts to have warm weather, beaches and pretty girls to bring in the blue chip recruits. Anybody that doesn't have those things either better have a dynamic coach, proximity to a highly populated state, or knows how to cheat...
 

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the job kelly and helfrich have done sustaining a top 5 program while recruiting at a 20th place level is really remarkable but also unsustainable[/QUOTE]

JMO but much of Oregon's recent success has been due to the unique offensive system they run. It's very difficult for teams to prepare for in a week, even those conference teams they play every year. Kind of like the service academies and GaTech, the 5* players aren't necessarily suited to that system and they don't have to have them for the system to work.
 

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The answer is NO. Oregon simply does not have what it takes to become a championship team. They are missing that special ingredient that teams like Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, Florida State, and others have. They have never won an NCAA Football Championship. They have blown two chances in the past 4 years. They lose all everything QB Mariotta. Their chief rival, USC, is now off probation and has the #3 recruiting class according to 247, compared to Oregon's #16. UCLA is ahead of Oregon in recruiting. If Sark is as good an X's and O's HC as he is a recruiter, Oregon will have to wait at least 10 more years to legitimately challenge for an NCAA Crown. The slide starts this season with games at Michigan State, Arizona State, Stanford, and Washington, and hosting USC. Oregon will lose at least 2 of those games, and probably 3. That does NOT get you into the Playoff.
 

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The answer is NO. Oregon simply does not have what it takes to become a championship team. They are missing that special ingredient that teams like Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, Florida State, and others have. They have never won an NCAA Football Championship. They have blown two chances in the past 4 years. They lose all everything QB Mariotta. Their chief rival, USC, is now off probation and has the #3 recruiting class according to 247, compared to Oregon's #16. UCLA is ahead of Oregon in recruiting. If Sark is as good an X's and O's HC as he is a recruiter, Oregon will have to wait at least 10 more years to legitimately challenge for an NCAA Crown. The slide starts this season with games at Michigan State, Arizona State, Stanford, and Washington, and hosting USC. Oregon will lose at least 2 of those games, and probably 3. That does NOT get you into the Playoff.

overall we'll be fine......our recruiting is fine too......thanks for thinking of us though
 

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overall we'll be fine......our recruiting is fine too......thanks for thinking of us though
I am sure that Oregon will be fine, but "Fine" does not create Champions. To say that your recruiting is "fine too" shows me that you may be afraid to face the music. I do not appear to be alone in here with my assessment of Oregon. The Oregon fans that I know seem to be at a loss when it comes to explaining their loss to Ohio State. I talked to a person who is very knowledgeable about Oregon football and he agrees with me when I say that Helfrich is unable to control his team. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that an Oregon player got kicked off the team the week before the big game for using pot. I never saw any Alabama players get kicked off teh team the week before the big game for that. Come to think of it, I never saw any players from any team in the big game get kicked off the team days before the game for pot usage. As soon as that news broke, I knew that Oregon was finished. It was obvious that Helfrich had no control over that team. That team was way too talented to get their tails kicked like they did. That is on the Head Coach.
 

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