Brady's 4-game suspension upheld

[ML Dog]

Pats fans need to stop spinning this and except that you cheat.. You got caught, you have been penalized...nothing else to debate..now you're embarrassing yourselves...... time to stop crying

Had The Commissioner just levied the penalty mentioned as appropriate within Rules, Guidelines..."25K" (and up) for Tampering w/ Equipment, Altering a Ball...whatever the wording is...were The Commish not an idiot none of whats followed would be happening.

The vast majority of those "crying" as you put it are not Patriots Fans. They're NFL Fans "crying" (since you insist on this word) at the Stupidity of all this noise over air in a ball thats adjusted by equipment staff at all levels to a QBs liking & has been forever.

We are NFL Fans "crying" in protest to Haters who've jumped on a Bandwagon of Prosecution thats gonna Crash & Burn at the Court Level. Just tryin' to tell Ya'll if you're riding with Goddell on this the Float you've chosen to ride on within this stupid pointless Parade is gonna stall and leave ya stranded lookin like Idiots.

Ain't no Patriot Fandom involved in that at all. Merely trying to Reason with ya'll. To try and get you to see sense.

 

[MikeB]

^^This^^

 

[NFLTrends]

If this was any other business, he would get canned for not complying with his companies investigation.

Getting off light with only 4 games. Should just do it, let it go, and be done with it.

 

[REDEYE]

Sounds like crying by Kraft & the Golden Boy to me..I don't see players and owners from other teams crying like this after punishment has been handed down..emberrasing to say the least

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

If this was any other business, he would get canned for not complying with his companies investigation.

Getting off light with only 4 games. Should just do it, let it go, and be done with it.

Brady's trademark is to act like a nice guy with his "awwe shucks" look. I bet he is an ass in person and who the hell is Giselle? She makes more $$ than Brady? For what? I would have never heard of her without Thomas.

The guy is so easily hateable but can be deadly accurate. I still hate him.

 

[ML Dog]

Sounds like crying by Kraft & the Golden Boy to me..I don't see players and owners from other teams crying like this after punishment has been handed down..emberrasing to say the least

If you were accused of a thing you didn't do or even did do and had managed to leave your accuser with no evidence of that thing you're accused of thus no way for your "punishment" to stand, no way for you to have to suffer that....are you suggesting that you yourself would not also say you're against the punishment? That you would speak NO WORDS to the effect that you intend to fight the ruling? Oh, wait..."cry". Since your's and scottcarter's chosen term for all speech against just railroading Brady & The Pats here is "cry"...for clarity, so that you and he can understand what I'm referring to I'll use the word "cry" instead of speaking in defense of one's self or in defense of Common Sense and Justice....based on available evidence.

Phone Destroyed Check Mate. (insert the sound of a crying baby here)

 

[3peet]

Once I heard Brady busted up his phone, he was guilty in my eyes. Why even do that if you've got nothing to hide??

 

[ML Dog]

Once I heard Brady busted up his phone, he was guilty in my eyes. Why even do that if you've got nothing to hide??

Because your Samsung Galaxy phone is broken and IPhone 6 has been released. At least thats what Tom said went down. Somewhere within one of these multiple threads about this is his facebook statement declaring (in a way that makes sense, seems reasonable) why he destroyed the phone. And asserts that he destroyed the phone after he felt he was in the clear timeline-wise on maybe where destroying it would lead to this shitstorm.

Common Sense informs anyone with an IQ above that of an End Zone PYLON that he destroyed the phone to hide evidence. That same common sense says whatever his reason for destroying the phone doing so has, it appears, left Goodell without an evidentiary foot to stand on which will likely lead to the suspension being overturned in Court.

Tom's counsel prolly told him to destroy it. If so and we learn of that through Paper Trail that'd be among the biggest bonehead blunders in Lawyer History . Good Move destroying the phone IMO. Goodell needs to settle this, to not allow this to go to Court or he's only gonna look like a fool and an idiot.

Again.

 

[REDEYE]

If you were accused of a thing you didn't do or even did do and had managed to leave your accuser with no evidence of that thing you're accused of thus no way for your "punishment" to stand, no way for you to have to suffer that....are you suggesting that you yourself would not also say you're against the punishment? That you would speak NO WORDS to the effect that you intend to fight the ruling? Oh, wait..."cry". Since your's and scottcarter's chosen term for all speech against just railroading Brady & The Pats here is "cry"...for clarity, so that you and he can understand what I'm referring to I'll use the word "cry" instead of speaking in defense of one's self or in defense of Common Sense and Justice....based on available evidence.

Phone Destroyed Check Mate. (insert the sound of a crying baby here)

You have your interpetations of this and I have mine..

 

[loomis41973]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/29/how-tom-brady-can-end-roger-goodell.html

 

[ML Dog]

You have your interpetations of this and I have mine..

Indeed & your mention of that calls to mind the possibility that on some issues both sides might be "right" or, at least...neither side is necessarily "wrong".

From pretty much the Start, in that other Epic thread which I believe that you started it was:

A.) "its a couple lbs. PSI in a BALL for chrissakes, fudging thats been going on at all levels and goes on. Refs don't care, nobody cares. This is a common skirting of the rules at all levels of football and has been forever"

versus

B.) "This is just more systematic cheating on The Patriot's Part & don't even try to tell me cheating is OK if everyone does it cuz thats bullshit. This goes to the Integrity of the game. PLAY FAIRLY"

Both arguments may be "correct". I mean....its at least conceivable that they are.

Now we're on to: "Goodell is an idiot with no evidence" vesus "Brady is a lying cheat who destroyed evidence and needs to be punished for that."

Both opinions potentially "right" as well.

I just never really felt personally that this whole affair with slight deflation or over-inflation of balls (as Aaron Rodgers prefers) was that big of a deal. I believe that Refs & NFL felt the same way and this has become what it has due to Goddell's incompetence.

I do appreciate the "integrity of the game" argument completely though. I Just think there are some issues upon which there are multiple valid opinions....or "right answers". And this may be one such issue.

 

[CHOPTALK]

Patriots fans really handled all this the wrong way.

Instead of spending all their energy pretending like Brady did not do it they should have been focusing more on downplaying the actual deed.

Protending like he did not do it is just dumb and makes you look stupid.

The point is even though he did do it it's been blown way out of proportion.

The crime does not fit the outrage.

That should be the focus of your energy.

Trying to get people to realize just how minor of a crime this is in the grand scheme of things.

Quit making yoursElves look stupid by saying he did not do it.


Yea maybe he is innocent in a court of law.

Maybe in the court system he is not guilty .

But in real life he is certainly not innocent.


You can be both not guilty and not innocent at the same time.

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

It's funny. You know everything is not on the up and up yet they swear everything is. And the same 25 Patriots fans on this board will act the same. As a Colts guy, I really don't care. It is pure comedy at this point. I hope Garropolo is a queer and absolutely sucks

 

[ML Dog]

It's funny. You know everything is not on the up and up yet they swear everything is. And the same 25 Patriots fans on this board will act the same. As a Colts guy, I really don't care. It is pure comedy at this point. I hope Garropolo is a queer and absolutely sucks

Totally Overlooked here is the fact that likely 8 out of 10 guys on this planet right now (if not even more) do the exact same thing as Brady throughout this entire situation:

a.) they get a football adjusted to the PSI that they feel most comfortable with cuz no one cares if thats done and its commonly done by many QBs

and b.) confronted by a Moron as an adversary who can be defeated with the mere destruction of a cell phone, they destroy the phone.

 

[Greenbacks]

Tom is posting messages on Facebook...LMAO.

How low can you go......C'mon Tom stop it...LMAO.

 

[MikeB]

Circle the Wagons baby.

Go kick Fuher Goodell right in his C*U*N*T in Federal Court.

 

[texansfan]

NFL going to win this one I believe. They filed first, so it looks like they get the court of their choice.

 

[MikeB]

NFL going to win this one I believe. They filed first, so it looks like they get the court of their choice.

It's going to be interesting, I'll tell you that.

I'm not convinced the NFL is going to win this though.

 

[texansfan]

It's going to be interesting, I'll tell you that.

I'm not convinced the NFL is going to win this though.

It will be interesting, no doubt. It seems as though the NFL planned out everything ahead of their decision to counter anything the Union would do. The fact is though, the Union gave him all that power in collective bargaining. Obviously they were more concerned with financial compensation. It's difficult to argue against something when you willingly gave him the authority to do so.

 

[PatsFan1283]

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