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This brings up a question I have been wondering on. If there is a known bettor who bets 5 dimes at a 65% win rate, do the books still take his action? Is there any reason a book can refuse your action?

One day I dream of being that kind of action guy who can drop 5 g's on a game and was wondering what kind of heat you will get for this? I would expect that the online books might be tempted not to pay you out.. but live books in Vegas/etc will they refuse your action?

first, google Billy Walters. then try to understand that he was the pinnacle of sports bettors, that he hit around 54-55%, and that you are not him.

second, realize that the ONLY guy in the universe that hits 65% at -110 over a lot of plays is this 2nd half guru and the only way you can get those plays is to be on big bookie's soon to be compiled pay for email list.

third, you aren't going to have limits over $500 at Vegas books if you hit 55% for decent amounts. the only way 99% of books will take a winner dropping 5K on games, especially on 2nd halves, is if they can lay off AT LEAST that amount somewhere else, usually double. When I hit something big through locals, I know where they lay it off, so I can manipulate that line for even more. It's common practice.
 

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it's why I asked for a list of plays.

I doubt he has a list of even 20.


ATX you have time to come here and bust BB balls take the time and look it up. If you don't like BB plays no need for you to play them.
 

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So how do these betting syndicates do it. They hit at a large clip and they damn sure lay more than 5000 a game. Please explain your theory.
 

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all you have to do is do a search

seems like if this dude was hitting 65% you would have this list pretty handy, would be spending a good deal of time reverse engineering it, and not be telling too many people since the vig on 2h lines goes through the roof at relatively low levels. but I'll dig up the lines from last week, and I'm pretty sure they were posted as -110 when in fact the best available was -125/-130
 

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first, google Billy Walters. then try to understand that he was the pinnacle of sports bettors, that he hit around 54-55%, and that you are not him.

second, realize that the ONLY guy in the universe that hits 65% at -110 over a lot of plays is this 2nd half guru and the only way you can get those plays is to be on big bookie's soon to be compiled pay for email list.

third, you aren't going to have limits over $500 at Vegas books if you hit 55% for decent amounts. the only way 99% of books will take a winner dropping 5K on games, especially on 2nd halves, is if they can lay off AT LEAST that amount somewhere else, usually double. When I hit something big through locals, I know where they lay it off, so I can manipulate that line for even more. It's common practice.
now you are telling people that i am going pay-you have some serious issues dude and I am not responding to you anymore-you arent worth my time
 

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ATX you have time to come here and bust BB balls take the time and look it up. If you don't like BB plays no need for you to play them.

some of them were the same ones that I was on. they are based on mechanical systems that in the past hit above 55%. then the books caught on and now the -110's are usually -130's. I asked BB if those were actually the lines he was hanging, out of curiousity. No response. So basically, he's trying the ol' pass off a -130 W/A as -110, that's what I'm assuming. If not, then I'd sure like to know how to get in touch...
 

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now you are telling people that i am going pay-you have some serious issues dude and I am not responding to you anymore-you arent worth my time

no one would ever think about doing that, would they?

yeah, and betting on sports is for the humanitarians out there. HA!
 

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BB, Are all your half time plays that you post this "GURUS" plays ?

Are any of the half time plays opposite your clients action ?

Thank you for your time,

LANCEY
 

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ATX.

You are obnoxious, overly enamored of your own opinion and a little ignorant.

Why are you carrying this torch? I agree with others that you should keep away if you don't like the BB posts.
 

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You are so cool ATX. I wanna be just like you. How do you do it? Please tell me.
 

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BB, Are all your half time plays that you post this "GURUS" plays ?

Are any of the half time plays opposite your clients action ?

Thank you for your time,

LANCEY
they are always gurus plays unless otherwise posted---he matches up a lot though with the book
 

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You are wrong ATX. Do your research and then comeback.

about what? BW? the computer group? limits at the Vegas joke sportsbooks? about hitting 65%? about -130 vs -110
research? that's what I'm doing right now. I'm calling it "where is the public in 2008, how far have they evolved since the year 2000?" stay tuned.
 

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ATX.

You are obnoxious, overly enamored of your own opinion and a little ignorant.

Why are you carrying this torch? I agree with others that you should keep away if you don't like the BB posts.

it's not an opinion. it's something called truth. yeah, I can be obnoxious. do a search on me. here and at the place I can't mention here called offshoregamblersdiges*.com

don't get the impression that I really care. I just had 15 minutes to burn, and I'm nervous about the public being with me on UCONN. best of luck.
 

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it's not an opinion. it's something called truth. yeah, I can be obnoxious. do a search on me. here and at the place I can't mention here called offshoregamblersdiges*.com

don't get the impression that I really care. I just had 15 minutes to burn, and I'm nervous about the public being with me on UCONN. best of luck.

In your opinion is the public becoming sharper as time goes on? Don't be so hard on BB, as he is trying to help people out here.

BBBd1g1t
 

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In your opinion is the public becoming sharper as time goes on? Don't be so hard on BB, as he is trying to help people out here.

BBBd1g1t

yes.

until recently the public didn't even know who 'the public' was betting on.

until just before that the public didn't even know that the sum of the public was generally wrong.

it became a good deal harder to win after 2001, there were lines off by a full TD almost every week before that.

there are very few rogue lines, and a ton of square outs have gone down in smoke. I've been lucky that I haven't lost as much as other people I know when they went south, but I've had to cut a bunch of 'deals' with some of the popular places still open for some bs rule that they will try to enforce after winning. The vast majority of people out there still don't go to the forums and don't understand what a lot of the people here are saying. I think BB probably means well, but there's just not much 60% out there. And 2h lines are a LOT sharper than they used to be.
 

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