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Not sure if he is guilty or not, but one thing is for certain is that Roethlisberger is very immature & dumb.
I've heard numerous stories about him at parties etc.......You all saw the drunken pictures of him a few years ago (Not sure whos worse, him or kicker Jeff Reed). A friend of mine was at a party where he was at in the Spring and said he was all boozed up and got everyone quiet then shouted.."Which one of you skank ass whores are gonna get down and suck Big Ben's dick?"
So Im not surprised by these allegations. Something happened here, but who knows what with this dumb immature idiot.
I've heard numerous stories about him at parties etc.......You all saw the drunken pictures of him a few years ago (Not sure whos worse, him or kicker Jeff Reed). A friend of mine was at a party where he was at in the Spring and said he was all boozed up and got everyone quiet then shouted.."Which one of you skank ass whores are gonna get down and suck Big Ben's dick?"
So Im not surprised by these allegations. Something happened here, but who knows what with this dumb immature idiot.
If you haven't read the court docs on this, you should.
According to those docs:
1. She was the VIP rep for the penthouse floor.
2. Toothlessburger called her desk multiple times...asking her to personally come into his room to fix his TV.
3. She called her boss, as well as the hotel repair office to come up....and phone records can prove this.
4. The hotel video cameras caught all of this.
If you take the time to read it, it's really not that funny. It sounds very plausible. From what I can tell, no one is denying that he banged her (or at least tried) while she was on duty at work. If they can prove via phone records the he persisted to call her, and it's shown along with the video evidence...then it looks like he used her position as a guest service rep to lure her into his room as opposed to picking up some random chick and taking her there.
While it may be funny to joke about her looks and the craziness of the whole thing, I'm starting to believe her side of the story more.
According to those docs:
1. She was the VIP rep for the penthouse floor.
2. Toothlessburger called her desk multiple times...asking her to personally come into his room to fix his TV.
3. She called her boss, as well as the hotel repair office to come up....and phone records can prove this.
4. The hotel video cameras caught all of this.
If you take the time to read it, it's really not that funny. It sounds very plausible. From what I can tell, no one is denying that he banged her (or at least tried) while she was on duty at work. If they can prove via phone records the he persisted to call her, and it's shown along with the video evidence...then it looks like he used her position as a guest service rep to lure her into his room as opposed to picking up some random chick and taking her there.
While it may be funny to joke about her looks and the craziness of the whole thing, I'm starting to believe her side of the story more.
Well the video is definitely the trump card. I'd bet large bills that it is long since gone if it ever existed. Phone records I guess they should be able to get but that might prove that he sort of "lured" her but doesn't mean she couldn't have consented once up there. Even the video -- I doubt there's video in the room and hallway video might show her distressed, but again doesn't necessarily prove rape.
She should have driven immediately to hospital or police station.
Regarding ESPN's coverage, here is a link to an article in today's New York Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/sports/football/23espn.html?_r=1&ref=sports
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/sports/football/23espn.html?_r=1&ref=sports
I believe big Ben is innocent of all charges.
http://www.opensports.com/community/user/blog_entry/561/ff4c61ae-2316-4204-972e-0393c58a43
http://www.opensports.com/community/user/blog_entry/561/ff4c61ae-2316-4204-972e-0393c58a43
I read the court documents. It seems likely to me that
a) everything she is claiming is true
b) Ben is no gentleman
c) Ben used her just like he's used many other girls
d) Ben is not guilty of a crime
Sounds like he called her up, fully expecting that she knew exactly what he wanted. He comes onto her, she doesn't really stop him. He pulls out and finishes, and then tells her to get the hell out of his room and never come back. He checks out of the hotel, thinks nothing of it. She is hurt by that fact that he used her like a blow-up doll and then kicked her out. She is traumatized, because she's a good girl that doesn't do stuff like this. She suffers and feels guilt. She now wants to blame him for her suffering.
He's probably never had a girl come to his room and say no before. But it doesn't really sound like she tried to stop him. She was taken advantage of, but I think her claims of false imprisonment and rape are most likely way off base.
"I'm not on birth control" while in the act does not make it rape. I feel bad for the girl, and she probably never meant for it to happen. He banged her and threw her away like a used kleenex. But I don't think she can win this lawsuit. Just my opinion.
a) everything she is claiming is true
b) Ben is no gentleman
c) Ben used her just like he's used many other girls
d) Ben is not guilty of a crime
Sounds like he called her up, fully expecting that she knew exactly what he wanted. He comes onto her, she doesn't really stop him. He pulls out and finishes, and then tells her to get the hell out of his room and never come back. He checks out of the hotel, thinks nothing of it. She is hurt by that fact that he used her like a blow-up doll and then kicked her out. She is traumatized, because she's a good girl that doesn't do stuff like this. She suffers and feels guilt. She now wants to blame him for her suffering.
He's probably never had a girl come to his room and say no before. But it doesn't really sound like she tried to stop him. She was taken advantage of, but I think her claims of false imprisonment and rape are most likely way off base.
"I'm not on birth control" while in the act does not make it rape. I feel bad for the girl, and she probably never meant for it to happen. He banged her and threw her away like a used kleenex. But I don't think she can win this lawsuit. Just my opinion.
People are saying it is because he has a relationship with BSPN. He does commercials for them so they won't tell the story unless it gets some legs.
They are saying it is irrelevant, so they won't report it. However they reported Mcnair was drunk when he was killed. He was killed in his own bed so how is that relevant?
I find it interesting BSPN puts the Rapistberger story on its back pages especially since Mr. Comish Goodell is looking into the matter. That alone should be worthy of front page NFL news in July.
They are saying it is irrelevant, so they won't report it. However they reported Mcnair was drunk when he was killed. He was killed in his own bed so how is that relevant?
I find it interesting BSPN puts the Rapistberger story on its back pages especially since Mr. Comish Goodell is looking into the matter. That alone should be worthy of front page NFL news in July.
If you are her though and you're broke as a joke why not file a civil suit knowing full well ESPN or his lawyers wil tell him to pay it to keep it quiet?
If it's not true then the accusations are very, very sad and I despise her but look at it from her point of view. Ben probably needs to think about these things before hooking up with strange tang.
If it's not true then the accusations are very, very sad and I despise her but look at it from her point of view. Ben probably needs to think about these things before hooking up with strange tang.
Yeah, that assessment could be pretty accurate.
But, regardless of the he-said/she-said aspect of it, the actions of her employer, Harrah's, and those associated with them, do seem to be very improper. They had a responsibility to investigate and take her seriously and not try to cover it up and basically threaten her.
I think she'll end up getting a settlement, but not from Ben, from Harrah's.
Good thoughts by Illini and D2bets and others. . I would add a side thought that the passage of a year (though the year might degrade evidence and testimony) shouldn't detract from the woman's case. This woman and her lawyers might be gold digging parasites, but there is also the possibility that she suffered a deep hurtful event and that it took some time for her to gather strength to face the judicial and personal noise of claiming against her alleged attacker. Cuts two ways; twelve months to reflect on money or twelve months to reflect on hurt or maybe some place where the two meet.
