I thought this was weak that I had to fax them bank statements from 6 months ago to show them that the E-checks deposits were withdrawl from my account. I think my bank account (how much I got and what I spend it on) info is my private business. I am sure they got the money or they would have made an issue about this back then.
VD, I think it's "noble" that you help posters and you have offerred to help me twice (haven't I given you my account number before too?). But again, IMO when I can't get an answer as to where the FUCK my money is after weeks of waiting from a solid book, again I shouldn't have to ask someone on a random message board for help.
If that happened at BoDog or any other site that isn't considered solid, people would be leary of them.
I do find it comical that you freak out whenever anyone has a complaint about bookmaker.
So thanks for your help (almost) in the past but go fuck yourself if you think we aren't allowed to discuss problems of slow pays.
I did mention how sportsinteraction didn't pay me all of an $8,000 they owed me (only $5,000ish) earlier in the week. Is that ok with you or should you approve those posts too?
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One more thing, I never said Bookmaker was ready to fold, I was saying be careful as slow pays are signs of a book that could fold. Jackass
I call BS on that !
CRIS does transfers with a lot of books....always no charge coming into CRIS, but a fee leaving CRIS/BM. It's a stall tactic on their part. They don't want to make it easy to get your money out, or over to Greek,5D,Matchbook.
There is no real cost with transfers, as long as the books know each other book will pay, and they do, that's why only the best books transfer with each other, books like Betus,Lazerwager,Oddsmaker,Sportsbook.com never make it into the transfer loop.
Why should a transfer cost anything ? That's why I say FU to CRIS and WSEX.
Come on guys, CRIS was here before most and they will be around long after many have come and gone. That does not mean there won't be problems here or there, especially in this day and age. When the feds want to make life tough for you they go after your money channels. That's the life blood for any business. From there you can do the math.
Again, not saying you don't have the right to bitch, it can be frustrating, but by the same token let's keep it real. There are new people that might not know their history and who's who but CRIS is as safe as any book out there. Period! Don't like the transfer fees, don't play there, but let's not make safey an issue, there aren't any safer than CRIS.
Again, not saying you don't have the right to bitch, it can be frustrating, but by the same token let's keep it real. There are new people that might not know their history and who's who but CRIS is as safe as any book out there. Period! Don't like the transfer fees, don't play there, but let's not make safey an issue, there aren't any safer than CRIS.
Doug, I'm speaking in general and wasn't trying to handicap which books the feds might go after next. But with that said though these are old school guys, not like a lot of the internet bookies that are relatively new to the business. Even if we were to play along with your premise and assume they would get shut down for being a well known book (?) your chances of them doing what Pinnacle did and paying everyone on their way out is much greater than it would be in some of these new shops that have come along in the last 5 years or so. I think you will get paid even if they do get shut out in this great country of ours. With everything being equal there aren't many safer shops than this place, surely we can all agree on that point. When I was the Wilheim here 5 years ago I recommended the same books I recommend today for players that are concerned about the safety of their funds - CRIS (Bookmaker), Pinnacle, WSEX (Matchbook), and Olympic (Greek). Probably be the same one's 5 years from now as well. That is not all inclusive of course but those 4 in particular have been rocks in this risky industry for years.
PS - not saying they are the best, players look for different things. The thread starter (just like you) has a right to bitch and moan IMO, it's their money, they can play where they want. But these places you can for the most part get a decent sized bet down, get it in early, they let you win a bit before shutting you down and most of all they are the cream of the crop when it comes to safety of our funds. Just my two cents, not saying it's the gospel or anything of the sort. Good luck tonight with your action, consider Santa Clara later tonight.
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I can assure you that CRIS is not in the "stalling business" as some of you have suggested...the big boss there has always said when there are winners it is the customer's money and will get paid in a timely manner...
Ask any credit player that you know who plays at CRIS and ask him when he gets paid? With today's problems with banking and the government intervention, things can drag out from time to time....Stalling to pay someone is not in CRIS's vocabulary...
Ask any credit player that you know who plays at CRIS and ask him when he gets paid? With today's problems with banking and the government intervention, things can drag out from time to time....Stalling to pay someone is not in CRIS's vocabulary...
You are right, I can be a jack ass at times...it is your money and you have a right to be concerned....but if you knew anything about CRIS or it's history in the offshore business, you wouldn't have made the comment about the possible folding of the business...any problems in the future with this book, please ask for Anthony in customer service (he is the boss)....that is if you are still playing there....
Yeah those transfer fees are ludicrous..C`mno man they are not that expensive to transfer..you are almost better off withdrawing and tnen depositing at the other book..
I do still use and like Booknaker and Diamond..
Sports off Shore...ABC Islands and Carib have gave me same day ( SOS in one fucken hour) payouts this year..
Called for a money wire from 5 D Mon 9am..got $ Tues 10am..
Cris has usually been 24-48 on a wire control #...decent nuff for me
