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Can I get your Quixtar pin number? I was thinking about buying a new car and wanted to make sure you got the commission.
 

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Can I get your Quixtar pin number? I was thinking about buying a new car and wanted to make sure you got the commission.

Quixtar hasn't operated since 2007 (I think...I was out of Amway loop for about 15 years until this past summer 2009)

I think the biggest ticket item I can point you to is some pretty kick ass (or so I'm told by those who use it, including my wife) face creme that helps people 45+ look 10 to 15 years younger.

If I recall, you're like in late 30s? So get back to me in a few years and I'll hook you up - solid

Until then, I'm only good for Nutrilite and XS Energy Drinks....SheBar handles the Artistry
 

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Props again to Sgt Enfuego for creating a thread specifically seeking BARMAN'S OPINIONS

Shockingly, that appears to be a decent way to increase RxForum views and help the overall site rock even more steady

This bitch is about to hit Page 6

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Yeah....Not much chance of me being able to kill any civilian men, women or children with my gas-powered Ryobi

Maybe if I could drop it on them from 20,000 feet.....yeah...that would be cool..

.and when I got home afterwards, my friends and family could throw a party for me and tell me what a Big Hero I am....

I clearly missed the boat....

Do you know how many civilians have beeen killed in Afghanistan and if so, how many of those were actually killed by the Taliban? You really don't have any idea Baragenda. I'm being very honest with you...you really have no idea what you're talking about.

True story here. I was sitting in Afghanistan one Winter morning when a report came in from local Afghan media that said a Taliban spokesman claimed 7 Afghan construction workers had been killed by a stray U.S. bomb. What did we do? We called the local hospitals and there wasn't one report of injuries or fatalities brought to the hospital. We went to our operations division and asked them what missions they'd flown in the area of the reported fatalities. Guess what? Not one mission in that area in the last 24 hours.

See, we don't want to believe it but the Taliban propaganda machine is not held to a higher standard. They simply call the media and report what they want. It is what it is. You can tell me I'm full of shit all you'd like and that's fine but I lived it for half a year. I was there and witnessed what I witnessed. These people kill people without any care in the world. They have no remorse or sorrow at all. You read something on a website and call it a day without an a true representation of what is going on.
 

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Do you know how many civilians have beeen killed in Afghanistan and if so, how many of those were actually killed by the Taliban? You really don't have any idea Baragenda. I'm being very honest with you...you really have no idea what you're talking about.

True story here. I was sitting in Afghanistan one Winter morning when a report came in from local Afghan media that said a Taliban spokesman claimed 7 Afghan construction workers had been killed by a stray U.S. bomb. What did we do? We called the local hospitals and there wasn't one report of injuries or fatalities brought to the hospital. We went to our operations division and asked them what missions they'd flown in the area of the reported fatalities. Guess what? Not one mission in that area in the last 24 hours.

See, we don't want to believe it but the Taliban propaganda machine is not held to a higher standard. They simply call the media and report what they want. It is what it is. You can tell me I'm full of shit all you'd like and that's fine but I lived it for half a year. I was there and witnessed what I witnessed. These people kill people without any care in the world. They have no remorse or sorrow at all. You read something on a website and call it a day without an a true representation of what is going on.

So, what you are saying is that the stories of collateral damage involving the deaths of Afghanistan civilians are actually propaganda? I have two immediate family members who served in Afghanistan who seen a different Afghanistan then you and these guys are not flaming liberals by any stretch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_of_the_War_in_Afghanistan_(2001–present)
 

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So, what you are saying is that the stories of collateral damage involving the deaths of Afghanistan civilians are actually propaganda? I have two immediate family members who served in Afghanistan who seen a different Afghanistan then you and these guys are not flaming liberals by any stretch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_of_the_War_in_Afghanistan_(2001–present)

No Fletch, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that the numbers reported are somewhat exagerated. Why is that? Definately propaganda plays a role with a serious lack of professional journalism to research their reports. Some may report from the left and some are lazy while others are just not experienced or don't care. Do civilian deaths happen? Sure they do but not at the reported numbers and not all at the hands of NATO or the U.S.
 

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No Fletch, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that the numbers reported are somewhat exagerated. Why is that? Definately propaganda plays a role with a serious lack of professional journalism to research their reports. Some may report from the left and some are lazy while others are just not experienced or don't care. Do civilian deaths happen? Sure they do but not at the reported numbers and not all at the hands of NATO or the U.S.

Wouldnt you have to say that propaganda happens with all governments and all groups that are big enough? Or do you think the US Government (the military that is) is not involved with creating propaganda? If so, then i would assume the propaganda angle is a wash.
 

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Barman Jr just weighed in via text message to remind that in Carl Hiassen's novel SKIN TIGHT - the bungling hitman "Chemo" has his arm below the elbow bitten off by a barracuda strike and then using a crutch and a gas weedeater he essentially replaces his lower arm.

So all I need to do if I want to kill me some civilian men, women and children (preferably ones who are either older, lying down or slow afoot) is to first let a barracuda take half my arm and then I just rig it up like in the novel.

yeah, yeah... I know this post is Useless without pics, so as soon as I'm done this weekend visiting the nearby Gulf of Mexico in search of suitably pissed off barracuda, I'll return to this here BARMAN thread and post pics of the Work In Progress
 

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Wouldnt you have to say that propaganda happens with all governments and all groups that are big enough? Or do you think the US Government (the military that is) is not involved with creating propaganda? If so, then i would assume the propaganda angle is a wash.

Not exactly Fletch. Are there information operations that occur in the U.S. Military? Yes there are. Do we call the media and claim the enemy killed say 10 civilians? No we don't. Has it happened throughout history? Probably but not often. IO campaigns involve dropping leaflets and putting out false information to mislead the enemy but there is a line that you can't cross. There are different levels (believe it or not) of IO campaigns.
 

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Carl Hiassen's best novel was probably STRIP TEASE

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Later converted into a Hollywood film featuring Demi Moore, Ving Rhames and Burt Reynolds among others

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Demi Moore of course also was helpful in breaking status quo stereotypes that women cannot be successful in military combat situations when she portrayed GI Jane

And lest we forget, she also delivered to us the (almost) Oscar-nominated performance of Dallas Grimes in Beavis&Butthead Do America

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