Bad News for Repubs... Over 6 million have signed up for Obamacare

Search

Banned
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
15,948
Tokens
Looks like the Repubs got their talking points down!! Why do you guys hate success so much?

One thing you learn down here in this insane hellhole. When Numbers(for whatever, ACA, Unemployment, the economy, etc) are reported as good for the Obama camp, they are bogus, made up, full of loopholes, can't be trusted. When they are bad, they are dead on accurate, as reliable as the day is long, etc. Understand that, and you understand the mindset you are dealing with:103631605
 

Rx Normal
Joined
Oct 23, 2013
Messages
52,421
Tokens
One thing you learn down here in this insane hellhole. When Numbers(for whatever, ACA, Unemployment, the economy, etc) are reported as good for the Obama camp, they are bogus, made up, full of loopholes, can't be trusted. When they are bad, they are dead on accurate, as reliable as the day is long, etc. Understand that, and you understand the mindset you are dealing with:103631605

More mindless drivel from another Obot...STILL no breakdown of the numbers!

Your hero is a pathological liar, stop shooting the messengers!

:bigfinger
 

Banned
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
15,948
Tokens
More mindless drivel from another Obot...STILL no breakdown of the numbers!

Your hero is a pathological liar, stop shooting the messengers!

:bigfinger

You're a lying, idiot, gay closeted birther, who lies more in one post than Obama has in 5+ years. Maroons like you shoot themselves. Obama is no hero of mine, but compared to a disgusting, lying slime ball like you Casper, he is a Saint.
 

New member
Joined
Oct 19, 2007
Messages
35,366
Tokens
You're a lying, idiot, gay closeted birther, who lies more in one post than Obama has in 5+ years. Maroons like you shoot themselves. Obama is no hero of mine, but compared to a disgusting, lying slime ball like you Casper, he is a Saint.

All true statements. A real life monster!
 

New member
Joined
Aug 28, 2012
Messages
12,449
Tokens
So AK... all those 6millions have already paid and are enrolled in Obamacare... and none of those who had their policies canceled went to Obamacare either.

So Obamacare has enrolled 6million people that DID NOT have their policies canceled, and had NO INSURANCE prior to Obamacare, and they are all paid policies?

Is that the good news you are trying to tell us?
 

Rx Normal
Joined
Oct 23, 2013
Messages
52,421
Tokens
Kathleen Sebelius: 'I Don't Know' How Many ObamaCare Enrollees Have Paid


Published on Mar 14, 2014
Kathleen Sebelius told the House Ways and Means Committee that HHS does not know how many people who are enrolled in Obamacare have paid their premiums.

When Representative Tom Price asked Sebelius asked how many of the 4.2 million people enrolled have actually paid for their plans, she responded, "I can't tell you that because I don't know that."
face)(*^%

Sebelius said HHS doesn't know because "consumers don't pay us" — they pay private insurance companies, and HHS receives aggregate data about which are customers eligible for a tax credit.

She also didn't know how many of the enrollees had previously been uninsured, and how many members of Congress had enrolled.

"It begs credulity, Madam Secretary, that you don't know the answers to these questions," Price said. "The American people trust that you know what you're doing and you're not filling the bill."

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And yes, those numbers include the laughable "shopping cart" policy.

Absolutely disgraceful!
:>(
 

New member
Joined
Oct 19, 2007
Messages
35,366
Tokens
So AK... all those 6millions have already paid and are enrolled in Obamacare... and none of those who had their policies canceled went to Obamacare either.

So Obamacare has enrolled 6million people that DID NOT have their policies canceled, and had NO INSURANCE prior to Obamacare, and they are all paid policies?

Is that the good news you are trying to tell us?

Insurance companies say about 80% have paid. As for who has new policies that didn't have healthcare before no one knows. All I know is your numbers are very misleading as cancelled policies does not mean they had to go through Obamacare. Their provider could have just offered a different policy that is acceptable under obamacare rules.
 

New member
Joined
Aug 28, 2012
Messages
12,449
Tokens
Insurance companies say about 80% have paid. As for who has new policies that didn't have healthcare before no one knows. All I know is your numbers are very misleading as cancelled policies does not mean they had to go through Obamacare. Their provider could have just offered a different policy that is acceptable under obamacare rules.

So my numbers are misleading because they don't tell the whole story.

Yet your numbers are 100% fact because they don't tell the whole story.... kind of hypocritical wouldn't you say?
 

Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2012
Messages
23,902
Tokens
One thing you learn down here in this insane hellhole. When Numbers(for whatever, ACA, Unemployment, the economy, etc) are reported as good for the Obama camp, they are bogus, made up, full of loopholes, can't be trusted.

Why then won't you tell us how many of these "sign ups" have paid for their policies?

I'll wait.
 

Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2012
Messages
23,902
Tokens
More people have had their insurance policies cancelled than have signed up (not paid) for an ACA policy and it is "bad news for Republicans!"

Hilarious.
 

Life's a bitch, then you die!
Joined
Jul 10, 2007
Messages
28,910
Tokens
You're a lying, idiot, gay closeted birther, who lies more in one post than Obama has in 5+ years. Maroons like you shoot themselves. Obama is no hero of mine, but compared to a disgusting, lying slime ball like you Casper, he is a Saint.

341x450px-LL-bdec5f1b_guy-laughing-at-you-thumb1094641.jpeg
 

New member
Joined
Aug 28, 2012
Messages
12,449
Tokens
Im still curious to know how AK thinks the numbers I put out are misleading..... yet the numbers he posted aren't.
 

New member
Joined
Oct 19, 2007
Messages
35,366
Tokens
Im still curious to know how AK thinks the numbers I put out are misleading..... yet the numbers he posted aren't.

I already explained it. Cancelled policies does not mean they had to go to Obamacare exchanges. Many were just provided with a different policy from their provider that was under the standards of Obamacare. So the numbers aren't misleading, the claim that there were more people who lost their policies than gained new policies is misleading.
 

New member
Joined
Aug 28, 2012
Messages
12,449
Tokens
I already explained it. Cancelled policies does not mean they had to go to Obamacare exchanges. Many were just provided with a different policy from their provider that was under the standards of Obamacare. So the numbers aren't misleading, the claim that there were more people who lost their policies than gained new policies is misleading.


But the "6 million sign ups" are 100% enrolled people (policies that are paid for) that didn't have insurance before Obamacare.

So what numbers do you have? Can you post the numbers of ACTUAL enrollees that are helping the 30 million that were uninsured? This way you can give us the true 100% numbers?
 

New member
Joined
Oct 19, 2007
Messages
35,366
Tokens
But the "6 million sign ups" are 100% enrolled people (policies that are paid for) that didn't have insurance before Obamacare.

So what numbers do you have? Can you post the numbers of ACTUAL enrollees that are helping the 30 million that were uninsured?

No one can. I'm just saying your guys talking point about cancelled policies is misleading as many people simply just chose another policy from their provider that met the standards of Obamacare. They even offered renewals to some 2+ million policies that were cancelled through the year 2014. How many of the 6 million were part of the 30 mil? I have absolutely no clue and that information is not available anywhere, so it would just be people making it up.
 

New member
Joined
Aug 28, 2012
Messages
12,449
Tokens
No one can. I'm just saying your guys talking point about cancelled policies is misleading as many people simply just chose another policy from their provider that met the standards of Obamacare. They even offered renewals to some 2+ million policies that were cancelled through the year 2014. How many of the 6 million were part of the 30 mil? I have absolutely no clue and that information is not available anywhere, so it would just be people making it up.

And saying that the 6 Million sign ups are a "success" is misleading then... since you don't actually know the actual numbers, and like you said no one does.

So how can it be a success when no one knows what the "real" numbers and facts are.
 

New member
Joined
Oct 19, 2007
Messages
35,366
Tokens
And saying that the 6 Million sign ups are a "success" is misleading then... since you don't actually know the actual numbers, and like you said no one does.

So how can it be a success when no one knows what the "real" numbers and facts are.

We know the actual numbers. There were over 6 million people who signed up on the Obamacare exchanges. You guys are the ones trying to spin it.
 

New member
Joined
Aug 28, 2012
Messages
12,449
Tokens
We know the actual numbers. There were over 6 million people who signed up on the Obamacare exchanges. You guys are the ones trying to spin it.

Ahhhh, so 6 million "Signed up"..... but how many are "Enrolled"?
 

New member
Joined
Aug 28, 2012
Messages
12,449
Tokens
ok so what about the other numbers???

Like how many have signed up that Didn't have insurance before Obamacare? Or those that had insurance before, but were forced to use the exchange?

Those will be the REAL success numbers
 

Forum statistics

Threads
1,119,946
Messages
13,575,480
Members
100,886
Latest member
ranajeet
The RX is the sports betting industry's leading information portal for bonuses, picks, and sportsbook reviews. Find the best deals offered by a sportsbook in your state and browse our free picks section.FacebookTwitterInstagramContact Usforum@therx.com