As Obama Prepares to give SOTU Praising Iranian Deal, Iran Detains 2 US Navy Boats

[superbeets]

Close? How close? You keep babbling this crap and refuse to address my post from yesterday. You are man of great information but I've seen nothing yet that shows exactly what happened here except that these soldiers made a mistake drifting into enemy waters and the enemy captured them in what seemed to be a peaceful capture. If they resisted there is a good chance they would have been killed. Show some proof to back what you say.

These were not civilians in a speed boat on a pleasure boat.

There were 2 boats, state of the art boats, heavily armed with mounted machine guns and cannon, very capable boats, easily capable of keeping the inferior Iranian speed boats at a distance. The USS Harry S. Truman carrier strike group was nearby. Assets were there, but like Bengahzi they were not used.


There was sufficient capabilities to prevent arrest by Iran.

It was a humiliation.


If it had been Israeli boats, they would not have capitulated. That is the difference.

I doubt whether Russian or Chinese assets in the same situation would of capitulated.

There was no resistance, no attempt to resist and that is very concerning. It sends the wrong message.



ASSETS WERE AVAILABLE


The Navy realized the boats were missing when they failed to appear shipside in the Gulf for refueling on their way to Bahrain, one defense official said. GPS devices aboard the boats enabled the Navy to determine, after the fact, that they were in Iranian waters, but the Navy was not immediately sure whether the crew members were safe or had gone overboard.
So a search-and-rescue operation was undertaken, and at least one U.S. ship crossed into Iranian waters to look for the crew after alerting the Iranian navy of their intentions.
The Iranians did not interfere, the defense official said. The official was not authorized to discuss these details and spoke on condition of anonymity.

 

[SheriffJoe]

These were not civilians in a speed boat on a pleasure boat.

There were 2 boats, state of the art boats, heavily armed with mounted machine guns and cannon, very capable boats, easily capable of keeping the inferior Iranian speed boats at a distance. The USS Harry S. Truman carrier strike group was nearby. Assets were there, but like Bengahzi they were not used.


There was sufficient capabilities to prevent arrest by Iran.

It was a humiliation.


If it had been Israeli boats, they would not have capitulated. That is the difference.

I doubt whether Russian or Chinese assets in the same situation would of capitulated.

There was no resistance, no attempt to resist and that is very concerning. It sends the wrong message.



ASSETS WERE AVAILABLE


The Navy realized the boats were missing when they failed to appear shipside in the Gulf for refueling on their way to Bahrain, one defense official said. GPS devices aboard the boats enabled the Navy to determine, after the fact, that they were in Iranian waters, but the Navy was not immediately sure whether the crew members were safe or had gone overboard.
So a search-and-rescue operation was undertaken, and at least one U.S. ship crossed into Iranian waters to look for the crew after alerting the Iranian navy of their intentions.
The Iranians did not interfere, the defense official said. The official was not authorized to discuss these details and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Damn right and exactly what happened during Benghazi.

Direct orders to stand down = 4 dead Americans.

Absolutely disgraceful!

 

[wabashwonders]

These were not civilians in a speed boat on a pleasure boat.

There were 2 boats, state of the art boats, heavily armed with mounted machine guns and cannon, very capable boats, easily capable of keeping the inferior Iranian speed boats at a distance. The USS Harry S. Truman carrier strike group was nearby. Assets were there, but like Bengahzi they were not used.


There was sufficient capabilities to prevent arrest by Iran.

It was a humiliation.


If it had been Israeli boats, they would not have capitulated. That is the difference.

I doubt whether Russian or Chinese assets in the same situation would of capitulated.

There was no resistance, no attempt to resist and that is very concerning. It sends the wrong message.



ASSETS WERE AVAILABLE


The Navy realized the boats were missing when they failed to appear shipside in the Gulf for refueling on their way to Bahrain, one defense official said. GPS devices aboard the boats enabled the Navy to determine, after the fact, that they were in Iranian waters, but the Navy was not immediately sure whether the crew members were safe or had gone overboard.
So a search-and-rescue operation was undertaken, and at least one U.S. ship crossed into Iranian waters to look for the crew after alerting the Iranian navy of their intentions.
The Iranians did not interfere, the defense official said. The official was not authorized to discuss these details and spoke on condition of anonymity.

I didn't realize you were there and no the exact details that took place. Just because they had the artillery does not mean they were in a position to win a fight when they were first spotted by Iran military. And as I said earlier, just how close were they? 10 soldiers under surprise attack which is possible may not last more than 10 minutes. You are just pointing blame when you don't know the details as to what took place.

 

[wabashwonders]

Damn right and exactly what happened during Benghazi.

Direct orders to stand down = 4 dead Americans.

Absolutely disgraceful!

So when these soldiers were first approached by Iran they called Obama on the phone and he said to stand down?

 

[superbeets]

These were not civilians in a speed boat on a pleasure boat.

There were 2 boats, state of the art boats, heavily armed with mounted machine guns and cannon, very capable boats, easily capable of keeping the inferior Iranian speed boats at a distance. The USS Harry S. Truman carrier strike group was nearby. Assets were there, but like Bengahzi they were not used.


There was sufficient capabilities to prevent arrest by Iran.

It was a humiliation.


If it had been Israeli boats, they would not have capitulated. That is the difference.

I doubt whether Russian or Chinese assets in the same situation would of capitulated.

There was no resistance, no attempt to resist and that is very concerning. It sends the wrong message.



ASSETS WERE AVAILABLE


The Navy realized the boats were missing when they failed to appear shipside in the Gulf for refueling on their way to Bahrain, one defense official said. GPS devices aboard the boats enabled the Navy to determine, after the fact, that they were in Iranian waters, but the Navy was not immediately sure whether the crew members were safe or had gone overboard.
So a search-and-rescue operation was undertaken, and at least one U.S. ship crossed into Iranian waters to look for the crew after alerting the Iranian navy of their intentions.
The Iranians did not interfere, the defense official said. The official was not authorized to discuss these details and spoke on condition of anonymity.

The US boats were very capable war machines, warning shots from the US would have sent the Iranians scurrying. Just like the Australians found out when they resisted. The fact that the US had 2 boats is a massive logistical advantage and knowing massive assets are available nearby, gives you the confidence to threaten armed resistance. Not only US assets but vast NATO assets in the region .


When 15 British marines were captured, they were on a single vessel, and that vessel was not a military vessel with no mounted machine guns or mounted cannon. The video of the British capture shows their vessel was not capable of resistance.

 

[vitterd]

Damn right and exactly what happened during Benghazi.

Direct orders to stand down = 4 dead Americans.

Absolutely disgraceful!

" it doesn't matter if what I post is false". Staying true to form I see

www.factcheck.org/2015/02/boehner-and-benghazi/

 

[SheriffJoe]

Of course you will now......you will take any bet that involves something you can con.....because you're a con man. That's who you are.

"it doesn't matter if what I post is false"

I did back then too. You know why? Unlike you, I have nothing to hide. I posted those tickets so everyone would laugh their ass off watching you shit your pants, which you did.

Of course I bet more per game than you (probably more per game than your broke tout-following ass bets in an entire month!), which is easily verified by anyone who logs into my account(s). DUH!

"Joe made some huge-ass deposit!"

"Actual wagers!"

"Joe could cheat!"

Notice how this broke loser always moves the goal posts.

Your chicken shit posturing doing anything and everything to avoid being discovered here is well documented, not just with me but with others as well.

Hey vtard! I'll be in Virginia Beach this March with the family at the Motel 6 - come and see me and get a taste of the good life! I dare you! ointer:

 

[vitterd]

I did back then too. You know why? Unlike you, I have nothing to hide. I posted those tickets so everyone would laugh their ass off watching you shit your pants, which you did.

You used the whole "actual wagers" bullshit to weasel your way out of another bet. Of course I bet more per game than you (probably more per game than your broke tout-following ass bets in an entire month!), which is easily verified by anyone who logs into my account(s).

"Joe made some huge-ass deposit!"

"Actual wagers!"

"Joe could cheat!"

Notice how this broke loser always moves the goal posts.

Your chicken shit posturing doing anything to avoid being discovered here is well documented, not just with me but with others as well.

Hey vtard! I'll be in Virginia Beach this March with the family at the Motel 6 - come and see me and get a taste of the good life! I dare you! ointer:

You are a total fraud and it's easy to see.

Ive offered several of you frauds to show up where I am and none of you broke losers ever show.

You have posted all losers but those fake tickets. Those somehow win. You're a con man and a total fraud.....it's why you have several ghosts here.

No vacation for you unless some sucker clicks on your purple flowers profile. Live alone and die alone.....that's what's on tap for you !

 

[superbeets]

I didn't realize you were there and no the exact details that took place. Just because they had the artillery does not mean they were in a position to win a fight when they were first spotted by Iran military. And as I said earlier, just how close were they? 10 soldiers under surprise attack which is possible may not last more than 10 minutes. You are just pointing blame when you don't know the details as to what took place.

Not a surprise attack.


2 boats ...................... get a grip.

They are trained to be vigilant. Surprise attack....... get a grip were the Iranian boats hid behind trees or camouflaged to look like sharks. It is open water.


2 boats are capable of resistance, a hell of a lot of fire power on those 2 boats many multiple mounted heavy machine guns and cannon. 2 boats working together would have produced a massive arc of fire. Once resistance begins and a firelight ensues then assets in the region quickly come to aid. Jets from aircraft carrier can be up in the air and there in minutes. The Iranians are fully aware of the American carrier battle groups presence in the region and would of shit themselves if the 2 US boats had resisted because that would have set off the alarm to the American fleet and response would have been fast and overwhelming. The entire Iranian military capability is no match for the fire power of an American carrier battle group. The whole country of Iran is not capable of matching the fire-power of a carrier battle group. Period.

The Iranian were banking on capitulation and that is what they got. If the US boats had fired, the Iranians would have ran because they woiuld have known what would quickly becoming, to the aid of the 2 boats.

 

[SheriffJoe]

You are a total fraud and it's easy to see.

Ive offered several of you frauds to show up where I am and none of you broke losers ever show.

You have posted all losers but those fake tickets. Those somehow win. You're a con man and a total fraud.....it's why you have several ghosts here.

No vacation for you unless some sucker clicks on your purple flowers profile. Live alone and die alone.....that's what's on tap for you !

Nah, there were plenty of losers on those tickets as well. You're just dancing and in denial, scared to death of being discovered here. You'd rather keep feeding us your self-aggrandizing bullshit, which NOBODY believes anymore. This is what you did before *I* arrived and continue to do.

Non-stop.

In every thread.

"I won millions playing poker!"

"I'm always gonna win. Not just in stretches...always!"

"Lifetime blackjack winner"

"Multiple homes!"

"I work out hours every day and could take any of you guys with one hand behind my back!"

"I own a masters!"

Funny as hell! k:

 

[vitterd]

Nah, there were plenty of losers on those tickets as well. You're just dancing and in denial, scared to death of being discovered here. You'd rather keep feeding us your self-aggrandizing bullshit, which NOBODY believes anymore. This is what you did before *I* arrived and continue to do.

Non-stop.

In every thread.

"I won millions playing poker!"

"I'm always gonna win. Not just in stretches...always!"

"Lifetime blackjack winner"

"Multiple homes!"

"I work out hours every day and could take any of you guys with one hand behind my back!"

"I own a masters!"

Funny as hell! k:

You were discovered .....those purple flowers were priceless but it doesn't matter ....you have nobody depending on you.....your only family avoids you and your only friends are online.
Youre making up quotes again. Others have told you to stop doing that.

 

[wabashwonders]

Not a surprise attack.


2 boats ...................... get a grip.

They are trained to be vigilant. Surprise attack....... get a grip were the Iranian boats hid behind trees or camouflaged to look like sharks. It is open water.


2 boats are capable of resistance, a hell of a lot of fire power on those 2 boats many multiple mounted heavy machine guns and cannon. 2 boats working together would have produced a massive arc of fire. Once resistance begins and a firelight ensues then assets in the region quickly come to aid. Jets from aircraft carrier can be up in the air and there in minutes. The Iranians are fully aware of the American carrier battle groups presence in the region and would of shit themselves if the 2 US boats had resisted because that would have set off the alarm to the American fleet and response would have been fast and overwhelming. The entire Iranian military capability is no match for the fire power of an American carrier battle group. The whole country of Iran is not capable of matching the fire-power of a carrier battle group. Period.

The Iranian were banking on capitulation and that is what they got. If the US boats had fired, the Iranians would have ran because they woiuld have known what would quickly becoming, to the aid of the 2 boats.

Lol just because you say all this does not mean you know what happened. Where is all your news stories and pictures showing us EXACTLY what happened here like you usually do? I am not saying they were not in a position to resist but ive seen no proof to show that yet. I'll wait for proof before I blame someone.

 

[The Guesser]

Scott, I agree SB posts some good threads with good info, so why won't he or anyone else respond to my post directed towards him? Show me some proof where resisting instead of surrendering would have been a better option? Show me proof that they could have held off the Iranian military before helped arrived. The important thing is they are alive. But I'm sure most on here would not mind if they had resisted and were killed because then they could blame Obama for 10 dead soldiers and that would look better to them.

 

[ScottL]

^^^That 's the Flamer that sent my favorite poster out. Grrr...

 

[SheriffJoe]

^^^That 's the Flamer that sent my favorite poster out. Grrr...

Are you talking about festeringZit or the fence sitter?

 

[SheriffJoe]

" it doesn't matter if what I post is false". Staying true to form I see

www.factcheck.org/2015/02/boehner-and-benghazi/

 

[vitterd]

" you didn't build that"

" what difference does it make"

"there was a stand down order"

bwaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!

 

[SheriffJoe]

"No serviceman or servicewoman will be forced to be on their knees and ANY nation that captures our fighting men and women will feel the full force and fury of the United States of America." -- Ted Cruz

BOOM!

:aktion033

 

[superbeets]

"No serviceman or servicewoman will be forced to be on their knees and ANY nation that captures our fighting men and women will feel the full force and fury of the United States of America." -- Ted Cruz

BOOM!

:aktion033

 

[superbeets]

May 23, 2015
[h=1]Iraqi forces fled Ramadi without a fight[/h]

The important thing is they are alive.


Guesser you are such a IDIOT.