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Not just me... No NBA GM would take Artest over Butler...

no point to argue thats just wrong. its not about character guys in this league, its about winning.

only thing you must be talking about is because of the brawl at the palace. this coach has worked with him, and there was interest from all over the league for him. denver wanted him bad, lakers wanted him bad, whoever else was in the mix last deadline when they decided to hold on to him. he's a valuable asset on any team and GMs aint that naive
 

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no point to argue thats just wrong. its not about character guys in this league, its about winning.

only thing you must be talking about is because of the brawl at the palace.

Yep. If artest was sane he would be the better player and have more value. But he is not so you see teams not offering shit for him...

Talent for talent the Rockets just robbed the Kings... Wizards would laugh at this offer for Butler... You know that as well as I do...
 

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no point to argue thats just wrong. its not about character guys in this league, its about winning.

only thing you must be talking about is because of the brawl at the palace. this coach has worked with him, and there was interest from all over the league for him. denver wanted him bad, lakers wanted him bad, whoever else was in the mix last deadline when they decided to hold on to him. he's a valuable asset on any team and GMs aint that naive


All these teams were offering garbage... Lakers refused to offer Odom or Artest would have been in LA a few weeks ago.

Rockets just got over on the Kings bad... If you think Butler would get traded for Bobby Jackson and 28th you are on drugs.
 
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its not about talent though.

2 1st round picks, $1 million cash, and an expiring contract. for a player that didnt want to be there and owed $7+million on a team thats rebuilding
 
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All these teams were offering garbage... Lakers refused to offer Odom or Artest would have been in LA a few weeks ago.

Rockets just got over on the Kings bad... If you think Butler would get traded for Bobby Jackson and 28th you are on drugs.


where you been. Lakers DID Offer Odom. but the kings didnt want his salary unless LA took back kenny thomas salary.


of course Butler wouldn't have been traded for that, but Butler doesnt have just one year left on his deal, Butler doesn't WANT to leave the city.
 
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if you're a young rebuilding team, just as important to the team as talent is cap space
 

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where you been. Lakers DID Offer Odom. but the kings didnt want his salary unless LA took back kenny thomas salary.


of course Butler wouldn't have been traded for that, but Butler doesnt have just one year left on his deal, Butler doesn't WANT to leave the city.
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I thought it was true also but read on ESPN and LA Times it was a rumor… The Lakers NEVER offered Odom. Here is a quote from ESPN and LA Times:<o:p></o:p>
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“Which, of course, takes us back to the Lakers, rumored to be in the mix, but according to ESPN's Marc Stein, reluctant to give up Lamar Odom (conflicting with previous reports that the Lakers were offering up LO. Gotta love the rumor mill). “<o:p></o:p>
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And Artest did not want to leave sac until they refused to extend his contract. Sorry many. The wiz would not trade <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Butler</st1:place></st1:City> if he had 1 year left on his contract. They would extend him b/c he is a good guy. <o:p></o:p>
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There is no way someone with RA talent is getting traded so many times in such a short period. <o:p></o:p>
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Regardless, I guess there is no reason to argue as we both think Artest is a beast and this move will make them a contendor. I just think <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Butler</st1:place></st1:City> is worth more. <o:p></o:p>
 

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Mr. Cleo I know you like Ron Artest and now he is with your squad you are going to love the guy(no homo). But seriously rebuilding or not Bobby Jackson and a first round pick which is most likely going to be after 22 or 23 and some cash. For the talent of Ron artest. You know good and well GMs in the nba was not all over getting this guy if he went that cheap.
 

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COMMENTARY

Bold trade shows Rockets want to win now

By STEVE CAMPBELL Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle

THIS could be the finest hour Daryl Morey ever has as a general manager. This could also be a deal that lives in Rockets infamy.
This could be a bold masterstroke that propels the Rockets to greatness, makes them a team Houston truly clutches to its bosom again. This could also be the best-laid plan that causes Morey and coach Rick Adelman to wake up screaming in the middle of the night for the rest of their natural lives.
Most truths in life lie somewhere in the middle of two extremes. When it comes to Ron Artest, life is one extreme or another. Artest is beauty and the beast in one 6-7, 248-pound package of contradictions and mood swings. The Latin translation of his name is caveat emptor .
Artest will become a Rocket as soon as the team can wrap up some legalities and logistics with the Sacramento Kings. The Rockets have agreed to send veteran point guard Bobby Jackson, next year No. 1 draft pick and another player — most likely this yearÂ’s No. 1 pick, Donté Greene — in return for a former All-Star and Defensive Player of the Year.
High risk, high reward

Neither Morey nor Adelman has any way of knowing how well the newest Rocket will fit in with a cohesive team built around Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady. What we do know is that regardless of how it turns out, itÂ’s a risk well worth taking.
Just like that, the Rockets belong on the short list of teams with legitimate NBA title hopes this upcoming season. Just like that, the Rockets have three players who have proved their ability to average 20 points per game and/or carry a team on a given night. Just like that, the Rockets became one of the league’s most flexible teams – better on offense and defense .
And they did it without sacrificing anybody who was a significant part of their 2008-09 plans.
If Artest is on his best behavior, getting out of the first round of the playoffs will be the least of the RocketsÂ’ ambitions. As ifs go, of course, this is as big as the gulf between prom queen and drag queen. Artest should be on his best behavior, given that heÂ’s in the last year of his contract and hoping to convince some team to give him a golden-parachute deal.
The beauty of having Artest on a team is that he can score and be as good of an in-your-face, lockdown defender as there is in the league. The beast of having Artest is that for a team with serious title aspirations, he can be a handshake buzzer, whoopee cushion and exploding cigar all rolled up in one.
Too many times for teams to truly count on Artest for long, the lights have been off with nobody home. His foray into the stands during a 2004 brawl earned him a 73-game suspension. His dossier also includes a suspension for requesting a month off to promote an album on his production label.
And he isnÂ’t always a stickler for running the same offense as the other four guys wearing the same-colored jersey.
In Rockets vernacular, itÂ’s on Adelman to see to it that this works. Adelman, after all, coached Artest at Sacramento for the second half of the 2005-06 season. Artest took such a liking to his coach, he offered to donate his salary to what he considered the worthy cause of bringing back Adelman the next season. The Rockets wouldnÂ’t have made such a dramatic move without the blessing of Adelman, who suddenly has an embarrassment of options.
Will Artest replace Shane Battier, who is the glue to the RocketsÂ’ defense, as the starting small forward, or come off the bench? Artest would seem to be better-equipped, if heÂ’d accept the role, to change the course of a game coming off the bench. HeÂ’d be the immediate favorite to win the Sixth Man of the Year Award, and think of the aggravation he could cause the other team.
 

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You guys think they will trade Battier? I can't see them playing Tmac, Shane, and Artest at the same time..
 
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dominic-- yes guys werent after him much because they dont know if he can coexist with whatever coach, and they also dont know if he will be there for mor ethan one year. hes getting paid 7+mill this year, a regular team thats not a title contender isnt going to trade away anything valuable if its only going to be for a rental. the main reason we got him is because of the adelman relationship and we are a contender. he didnt wanna go to a shitty team and he butts heads with coaches easy.


oldirty--no we are gonna keep him. looks like Shane is going to be our 6th man
 

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