Artest
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<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=oddrow style="TEXT-ALIGN: right"><TD align=left>Season</TD><TD>57</TD><TD>38.0</TD><TD>436-962</TD><TD>.453</TD><TD>84-221</TD><TD>.380</TD><TD>212-295</TD><TD>.719</TD><TD>1.8</TD><TD>4.0</TD><TD>5.8</TD><TD>2.33</TD><TD>.67</TD><TD>2.60</TD><TD>2.79</TD><TD>3.5</TD><TD>20.5</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow style="TEXT-ALIGN: right"><TD align=left>Career</TD><TD>535</TD><TD>34.7</TD><TD>3038-7156</TD><TD>.425</TD><TD>564-1713</TD><TD>.329</TD><TD>1901-2639</TD><TD>.720</TD><TD>1.3</TD><TD>3.8</TD><TD>5.1</TD><TD>2.13</TD><TD>.66</TD><TD>2.30</TD><TD>3.03</TD><TD>3.2</TD><TD>16.0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- begin content --><SCRIPT language=Javascript type=text/javascript><!-- function changeNTab (tabname, linkname) { document.getElementById('d_local').style.display = "none"; document.getElementById('d_local').style.width = "100%"; document.getElementById('d_local').style.float = "left"; document.getElementById('l_local').className="news_inactive"; document.getElementById('d_ccat').style.display = "none"; document.getElementById('d_ccat').style.width = "100%"; document.getElementById('d_ccat').style.float = "left"; document.getElementById('l_ccat').className="news_inactive"; document.getElementById(tabname).style.display = "block"; document.getElementById(tabname).style.width = "100%"; document.getElementById(tabname).style.float = "left"; setTimeout(function(){document.getElementById(linkname).className="news_active";},100); } //--> </SCRIPT>
Butler
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=oddrow style="TEXT-ALIGN: right"><TD align=left>Season</TD><TD>58</TD><TD>39.9</TD><TD>439-943</TD><TD>.466</TD><TD>66-185</TD><TD>.357</TD><TD>236-262</TD><TD>.901</TD><TD>1.6</TD><TD>5.1</TD><TD>6.7</TD><TD>2.21</TD><TD>.34</TD><TD>2.59</TD><TD>2.76</TD><TD>4.9</TD><TD>20.3</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow style="TEXT-ALIGN: right"><TD align=left>Career</TD><TD>419</TD><TD>36.1</TD><TD>2494-5658</TD><TD>.441</TD><TD>207-651</TD><TD>.318</TD><TD>1525-1792</TD><TD>.851</TD><TD>1.7</TD><TD>4.2</TD><TD>6.0</TD><TD>1.70</TD><TD>.29</TD><TD>2.18</TD><TD>2.84</TD><TD>2.8</TD><TD>16.0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
pretty similar of you ask me
come on man are you serious. butler more versatile than artest?
shouldnt bother arguing anymore if you're going to say that.
Artest can and has played all 5 positions. Butler can't play PF or C period. Artest has actually played games at those positions and Point Forward. and he's 20lb heavier. not "Fatter" but muscle.
and you're saying the Wizards faced better competition than the Kings?? lmao
yes they beat the celtics a couple times in the regular season so what?
shouldnt bother arguing anymore if you're going to say that.
Artest can and has played all 5 positions. Butler can't play PF or C period. Artest has actually played games at those positions and Point Forward. and he's 20lb heavier. not "Fatter" but muscle.
and you're saying the Wizards faced better competition than the Kings?? lmao
yes they beat the celtics a couple times in the regular season so what?
I never said they played better competition. I said the wizards beat the best team in the league more times than any other team doing the season. Without their so called best player. And artest can play 3, 4, 5,. Butler can play 1,2,3. Thats the way it is. Artest gets a lot of pub. Artest is bigger and stronger but slower to.
Butler also have got injuried the last two years and his stats still hangs up there with most small forwards in the league.
the wizards beat them 3 times, 1 time the celts didnt even play the boys in the 4th because it was one of the last games. this whole forum was on Wizards that game and we all won off the short line. i mean...i dont even know why they beat boston twice is even being brought up
oh well no point in even debating this. both good players and i shouldnt lose any sleep if someone thinks (even wrongly) that Butler is better. I just hope Rockets stay healthy
oh well no point in even debating this. both good players and i shouldnt lose any sleep if someone thinks (even wrongly) that Butler is better. I just hope Rockets stay healthy
Slower? Check out Caron Butler's number vs Ron Artest both times they match up this past season - 4/14 and 5/17 FG%? and you want to say Caron Butler is better than Ron Artest? give me a break.
Bottom line is, Ron Artest is a matchup nightmare - too fast for Power Forwards, too big for Small Forwards, probably the best perimeter defender in the league. I'm sure even TMac is glad he doesn't have to play Ron Artest anymore!
As much as I dislike Rick Adelman, I have to admit that this deal puts the Rockets as one of the true contenders next season. Imagine being guarded by BOTH Ron Artest and Shane Battier, a truly scary proposition for any wing player in the league.
I love Caron Butler, and was pissed the Heat traded him away years ago since I thought they had a championship team built pretty nicely, but Artest is straight out the better player. Other than Kobe and KG, I don't think anyone in the league is a better balance of lockdown defense with the ability to score.
Cleo,
I love Artest and think the Rockets just got a way way better… Great move for them…
They will be tough to beat next year...
But, I would take Butler over Artest any day of the week. He is just as good a player and much much better teammate and locker room guy. It's really not comparable.
Butler is worth more to an organization.
When you speak about Artest you can't just talk about BBall. You have to look at the whole picture... He is one of my fav players in the league but I will admit he has many many screws loose...
I love Artest and think the Rockets just got a way way better… Great move for them…
They will be tough to beat next year...
But, I would take Butler over Artest any day of the week. He is just as good a player and much much better teammate and locker room guy. It's really not comparable.
Butler is worth more to an organization.
When you speak about Artest you can't just talk about BBall. You have to look at the whole picture... He is one of my fav players in the league but I will admit he has many many screws loose...
