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Just saying taking a hand out is taking a hand out. Does being a veteran make one special and deserving of welfare?
If Vegas Vic was a veteran would that make it okay that he got help with his house?

It's not a hand out dude. You don't get it unless you sign up and serve for a pre-determined amount of time and if war happens during that time, you're in the war.

Are you seriously saying the GI Bill is welfare? Are you fucking joking me?

Just lost a ton of respect for you dude.
 

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If he did what does it matter? With GI Bill it means he served our country..Are you saying some blackjack dealing(?) or gambling fool(?) in vegas deserves the same benefits?

And actually, the stats show most vets don't even use their GI Bill benefits. It just goes away with time.
 

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You do realize Reno that not everyone serves in the US Military right? Like, it's not an easy thing to do so they kind of have to offer some benefits to kids to entice them to join right? The pay is shit and you are treated like a grunt. They have to offer some things in life that make it so people want to join up.

Like a kid is going to just join up at a time of war because he's a warrior? No, he gets some extra benefits that he earns. He gets shot at perhaps. GI Bill=Welfare lol. What a joke.
 

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Welfare is a word that is easily defined. It's not a put down. It is what it is.
 

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The simple definition of welfare:

A government program for poor or unemployed people that helps pay for their food, housing, medical costs, etc. or aid in the form of money or necessities for those in need.

The simple definition of the GI Bill:

A law passed in 1944 that provided educational and other benefits for people who had served in the armed forces in World War II. Benefits are still available to persons honorably discharged from the armed forces.
 

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It's a government program. Im qualified to use it myself but don't be a use I don't believe in it.
 

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It's a government program. Im qualified to use it myself but don't be a use I don't believe in it.

Are you going to answer the question since you opened the bag or just throw something out there that makes no sense whatsoever?

Is the GI Bill welfare? Yes or no? Easy question.
 

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Are you going to answer the question since you opened the bag or just throw something out there that makes no sense whatsoever?

Is the GI Bill welfare? Yes or no? Easy question.

Yes. YES, the GI Bill is welfare.

Farm subsidies are welfare.

Mortgage tax deductions are welfare.

Student loan programs are welfare.

Filing for bankruptcy is welfare.

The Wall Street "too big too fail" bailout is welfare. To the tune of about 14 Trillion dollars.

If the fucking government is giving you money, it is welfare.
 

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Yes. YES, the GI Bill is welfare.

Farm subsidies are welfare.

Mortgage tax deductions are welfare.

Student loan programs are welfare.

Filing for bankruptcy is welfare.

The Wall Street "too big too fail" bailout is welfare. To the tune of about 14 Trillion dollars.

If the fucking government is giving you money, it is welfare.

Wrong.
 

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>Yes. YES, the GI Bill is welfare.

Welfare is something given by the government that wasn't earned. The GI Bill is earned by giving service to the country and is a part of the agreement one makes for signing up.

>Farm subsidies are welfare.

Agreed. Farmers do nothing to earn subsidies.

>Mortgage tax deductions are welfare.

Agreed. Home owners do nothing to receive a break. Even though I own a home and receive this tax break I feel this should be done away with as it favors those who make a higher income.

>Student loan programs are welfare.

Nope. They are loans given at interest and are paid back.

>Filing for bankruptcy is welfare.

Agreed. People who file for bankruptcy get relieved of what they owe.

>The Wall Street "too big too fail" bailout is welfare. To the tune of about 14 Trillion dollars.

Nope. They were loans and were paid back with interest to the government. With that being said, I feel the companies should have been allowed to fail. The employees would have been hired by the companies that survived in the industry.

>If the fucking government is giving you money, it is welfare.

Not if you pay it back. It's only welfare if you get something for doing nothing
 

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Of course it's welfare, why you taking it so personal? Is it welfare when the government gives money Tesla for making electric cars to entice other companies to make electric cars? Yes it's called Corporate Welfare. That's a fact. Welfare at the heart of the word means to be taken care of. Sure Tesla and companies like them may feel like they're entitled to corporate welfare because they are doing humanity a favor by building electric cars, but it's still called corporate welfare, and maybe Veterans are entitled to a free education because what they have they have done for the greater good. It still is what it is.
 

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How is restructuring a mortgage welfare? I don’t end up paying one cent less than what I agreed to when I bought the house.

Yes I’m a vet. No I didn’t use the home loan option to buy my house.
 

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"Corporate Welfare"? More like Corporate Investment. Tesla has the potential to create more jobs if successful. Creating more jobs is a return on the governments investment. Everyone wins. Unlike welfare which is forever throwing money into a black hole with no return on our tax dollars.

The GI bill is a sales agreement the government contracts with potential recruits. The recruit then earns the GI bill while working for the government for x amount of years. There are no words like "earns" and "working" found in "welfare".
 

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Of course it's welfare, why you taking it so personal? Is it welfare when the government gives money Tesla for making electric cars to entice other companies to make electric cars? Yes it's called Corporate Welfare. That's a fact. Welfare at the heart of the word means to be taken care of. Sure Tesla and companies like them may feel like they're entitled to corporate welfare because they are doing humanity a favor by building electric cars, but it's still called corporate welfare, and maybe Veterans are entitled to a free education because what they have they have done for the greater good. It still is what it is.

I take it personal because I'm not a free loading liberal and have earned everything I have. You came in here insinuating I'm on welfare and that rubs me the wrong way.

You do realize to earn the GI Bill, you initially have to pay in $1,200 right? Then serve an honerable enlistment right? It's not handed to you. It's a contractual agreement. It's not handed to you. What don't you understand?
 

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I paid for my GI Bill out of my pay check every month for 12 months. I dont see people on welfare paying for anything. Also the GI Bill is used for 1 thing, EDUCATION!!!!. Its so you can go to School and get a degree so you dont have to be a free loader. I also did 3 tours in combat for that GI Bill. Anyone calling it welfare is an idiot.
 

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I paid for my GI Bill out of my pay check every month for 12 months. I dont see people on welfare paying for anything. Also the GI Bill is used for 1 thing, EDUCATION!!!!. Its so you can go to School and get a degree so you dont have to be a free loader. I also did 3 tours in combat for that GI Bill. Anyone calling it welfare is an idiot.

Me too. Paid that money out of my pocket to earn it and three tours in the Middle East too.
 
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Nice thread hijack.

Actually it's not a hijack at all.

Cosby and Clinton are both high-profile serial rapists, who got away with it for a long time.

Cosby is finally having to face some justice, hopefully Clinton will have to as well.

If you don't think Clinton is a serial sexual abuser, you are seriously deluded.
 

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Yes it is.

You turn every thread into a political debate.

Clinton is a political figure. Cosby is not.

No one is discussing the Cosby case. They are talking politics.

Thread hijack.
 

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