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I kinda agree with the Sherriff.

Maholmes AND Allen rule. They are BOTH super studs.

I'd love to see Allen with Andy Reed as his coach.
 

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Defensive teams.
2010 Packers were 5th in yards given up and second in points
2007 Giants were 7th in yards Giants key was pressure. Led the league in sacks and got pressure with 4
2005 Steelers were 4th is yards and 4th in points

Bills are currently 23 in yards per game 27th in points
Competition was probably tougher to get thru also those years. Alot of flaws with this years conference. This year's AFC tournament is up for grabs, if you can get in. At least the way I see it.
 

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Competition was probably tougher to get thru also those years. Alot of flaws with this years conference. This year's AFC tournament is up for grabs, if you can get in. At least the way I see it.
I'm including winning it all.But they actually weren't. Packers beat a shit Bears team to get there.
 

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He has Diggs. And look at what he was without Diggs. Mahomes didin't have Hill last year when they won. 2 SBs and 3 appearnace with unreal numbers and clutch performances to do it but Allen is better lol. Might as well say Marino better than Brady
Dude, the Bills STINK without Allen. As in gunning-for-last-overall godawful.

Nobody across the league would consider any part of this Bills team or coaching staff as "top tier" Diggs, Milano, very good, but not elite.

So let's go down the list of "contenders" and their QBs..

- Eagles without Hurts: still very good (remember: Philly won a SB with their backup)
- Niners without Turdy: (God knows how many QBs that team has cycled through): still very good.
- Cowboys without Dak: no problem. CeeDee Lam over Diggs everyday.
- Bengals without Burrow: as everyone can see, still in the hunt.
- Chiefs without Mahomes: Again, winning division titles with Alex Smith.
- Dolphins with Tua but WITHOUT Tyreek: lost to the woeful Bears 😂
- Ravens without Lamar - they looked better and more balanced last season with Tyler Huntley

Bills absolutely SUCK without Josh Allen, while the same cannot be said of the other contenders.
 

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I kinda agree with the Sherriff.

Maholmes AND Allen rule. They are BOTH super studs.

I'd love to see Allen with Andy Reed as his coach.
Reid won nothing without Mahomes.
No one is knocking Allen. But aren't you a Brady fan? I mean come on.... if winning means something than you can't say Allen is better or equal. Maybe you don't separate them with a big gap but you gotta say there is one.
 

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Dude, the Bills STINK without Allen. As in gunning-for-last-overall godawful.

Nobody across the league would consider any part of Bills team or coaching staff as "top tier" Diggs, Milano, very good, but not elite.

So let's go down the list of "contenders":

- Eagles without Hurts: still very good (remember: Philly won a SB with their backup)
- Niners without Turdy: (God knows how many QBs that team has cycled through): still very good.
- Cowboys without Dak: no problem. CeeDee Lam over Diggs everyday.
- Bengals without Burrow: as everyone can see, still in the hunt.
- Chiefs without Mahomes = Again, winning division titles with Alex Smith.
- Dolphins with Tua but WITHOUT Tyreek = lost to the woeful Bears LOL
- Ravens without Lamar - they looked better and more balanced with Tyler Huntley

Bills truly SUCK without Josh Allen, while the same cannot be said of the other contenders.
Awful without him? What does that mean? If they didn't have him and had Mahomes, Burrow or some other top guy they wouldn't do worse. Chiefs aren't winning shit withpout Mahomes So, yeah. What makes it worse is Allen is probably the best or 2nd best athlete at QB and most well rounded but it doesn't mean much because passing is king and running can be as big of a problem as a benefit
 
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Reid won nothing without Mahomes.
No one is knocking Allen. But aren't you a Brady fan? I mean come on.... if winning means something than you can't say Allen is better or equal. Maybe you don't separate them with a big gap but you gotta say there is one.
Is there any way you can facilitate getting Allen traded to the Patriots, exp? I'd love to see Billy B with Josh Allen. Wouldn't be long before the rest of the league would be uttering - aw fuck!
 

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- Eagles without Hurts: still very good (remember: Philly won a SB with their backup)
- Niners without Turdy: (God knows how many QBs that team has cycled through): still very good.
- Cowboys without Dak: no problem. CeeDee Lam over Diggs everyday.
- Bengals without Burrow: as everyone can see, still in the hunt.
- Chiefs without Mahomes: Again, winning division titles with Alex Smith.
- Dolphins with Tua but WITHOUT Tyreek: lost to the woeful Bears 😂
- Ravens without Lamar - they looked better and more balanced last season with Tyler Huntley

Bills absolutely SUCK without Josh Allen, while the same cannot be said of the other contenders.
Such lazy analysis, based basically on just hypotheticals and odd/past examples

-What does Philly winning a Super Bowl in 2018 have anything to do with them being good without Hurts? They lost 2 of their 3 games without him last year with Minshew -- who is an upper tier backup

-The 49ers are likely a solid team without Purdy, but they looked pretty reliant on him at the end of last year TBH. Purdy is outstanding, a pretty clear upgrade to Jimmy G and I doubt they want Sam Darnold to take the field

-Dak has been outstanding this year. Cooper Rush has proven he can come in, but again that was last year. And usually backup QB's tend to regress after a hot start

-Bengals - basically ame point as Cowboys above. Browning has proven a competent QB, but what happens when defenses adjust to the newer offense they're running? The system has been very different with Browning under center

-How would the Chiefs be without Mahomes THIS YEAR? Mahomes has absolute trash at WR, and they drop more balls by far than anyone

-When did the Dolphins lose to the Bears? They lost to the Titans, but the Bills lost to the Patriots and Jets

-Ravens struggled MIGHTILY without Lamar last year. Kept surviving low scoring games because of their defense improving. Go look at their offense without Lamar last year......dreadful

The logic here is so flawed, and the sample size for any of this stuff is so short anyways
 

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Burrow trumps them both :)

Here's what happens to JoeyB when he tries to be Josh Allen.


😂 😂 😂

What makes Burrow so elite? Can he scramble out of trouble? No!

His passing? "But, but, but... he's soooooo accurate!" LOL

As everyone can see now, so is Browning throwing to ball to Velcro receivers. 😂
 

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Is there any way you can facilitate getting Allen traded to the Patriots, exp? I'd love to see Billy B with Josh Allen. Wouldn't be long before the rest of the league would be uttering - aw fuck!
There has been some rumor of Billy coming to the Bills. I don't see it, you?
 

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Here's what happens to JoeyB when he tries to be Josh Allen.


😂 😂 😂

What makes Burrow so elite? Can he scramble out of trouble? No!

His passing? "But, but, but... he's soooooo accurate!" LOL

As you can see, so is Browning throwing to ball to Velcro receivers. 😂
Burrow is a pretty good scrambler. That's why the calf injury limited them. You could see him run well once the calf returned to near normal and their offense started to gel. He made some clutch as shit plays against the Chiefs with his legs as well to help them win that AFC Championship

Probably moves within the pocket better than any QB in the NFL -- doesn't make mistakes there.

Could use similar logic with Allen trying to "be like Burrow"
 

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Such lazy analysis, based basically on just hypotheticals and odd/past examples

-What does Philly winning a Super Bowl in 2018 have anything to do with them being good without Hurts? They lost 2 of their 3 games without him last year with Minshew -- who is an upper tier backup

-The 49ers are likely a solid team without Purdy, but they looked pretty reliant on him at the end of last year TBH. Purdy is outstanding, a pretty clear upgrade to Jimmy G and I doubt they want Sam Darnold to take the field

-Dak has been outstanding this year. Cooper Rush has proven he can come in, but again that was last year. And usually backup QB's tend to regress after a hot start

-Bengals - basically ame point as Cowboys above. Browning has proven a competent QB, but what happens when defenses adjust to the newer offense they're running? The system has been very different with Browning under center

-How would the Chiefs be without Mahomes THIS YEAR? Mahomes has absolute trash at WR, and they drop more balls by far than anyone

-When did the Dolphins lose to the Bears? They lost to the Titans, but the Bills lost to the Patriots and Jets

-Ravens struggled MIGHTILY without Lamar last year. Kept surviving low scoring games because of their defense improving. Go look at their offense without Lamar last year......dreadful

The logic here is so flawed, and the sample size for any of this stuff is so short anyways
It's not flawed or bias. It's fact.

All those organizations (past and present) have solid rosters without their current QBs. Any decent replacement, they'd make the playoffs...maybe better.

The Bills are trash in comparison. They really are..

Josh Allen IS the Buffalo Bills.
 

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It's not flawed or bias. It's fact.

All those organizations (past and present) have solid rosters without their current QBs. Any decent replacement, they'd make the playoffs...maybe better.

The Bills are trash in comparison. They really are..

Josh Allen IS the Buffalo Bills.
How is it good analysis if you're literally citing the Nick Foles Super Bowl year?

Lol what the fuck?

So much of that stuff is hypothetical as well

You just said the Bills would be a fringe playoff team with Burrow. Uh, the Bills ARE a fringe playoff team with Allen.
 
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There has been some rumor of Billy coming to the Bills. I don't see it, you?
Rumors schmoomers. Nope.

Billy B is the tightest lipped guy in all of sports. Despite what "they" say, nobody outside of Billy B and the two Krafts know anything. And I would doubt at this point if there is any certainty between them. Sometime after the season is over, we'll know. And none of the all knowings will have known anything.

Pats 1283 (where is he?) and I had this conversation a few weeks ago. I think Kraft(s) and Belli work things out and he is right back here next year. Maybe with a new GM understanding.

I know Belli wants to continue to coach. HERE! He loves what he does. But would he love it as much if he had to start over somewhere else? The lure of money doesn't mean anything to a guy like Belli who is already set. Some guys in their seventies love what they do and want to continue doing it. But most guys in their seventies do not like start overs.

We'll all see in a month or two. I sure hope he stays here. I've watched him coach for too long. I watch all the other coaches around the league and I watched a lot of coaches here before Belli. He is the GOAT. You don't replace a GOAT easily.
 

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Any top 5 QB could get most teams to the playoffs. So, what Allen is doing isn't proof because at one point a team sucked and now they don't. They sucked because teams with trash QBs suck. It is why titles are king. Aikman started on a horrible Cowboys team but no one thinks he is better than Montana and he won 3. I mean Allen Iverson took a dump 76ers to the finals maybe he is GOAT. No need to look at Jordans titles
 

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Any top 5 QB could get most teams to the playoffs. So, what Allen is doing isn't proof because at one point a team sucked and now they don't. They sucked because teams with trash QBs suck. It is why titles are king. Aikman started on a horrible Cowboys team but no one thinks he is better than Montana and he won 3. I mean Allen Iverson took a dump 76ers to the finals maybe he is GOAT. No need to look at Jordans titles
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No one here saying Allen sucks or anything close to that. We can all see he's a top 5 guy.

Just think it's crazy he's head and shoulders above all those other guys
 

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Burrow is a pretty good scrambler. That's why the calf injury limited them. You could see him run well once the calf returned to near normal and their offense started to gel. He made some clutch as shit plays against the Chiefs with his legs as well to help them win that AFC Championship

Probably moves within the pocket better than any QB in the NFL -- doesn't make mistakes there.

Could use similar logic with Allen trying to "be like Burrow"
How is it good analysis if you're literally citing the Nick Foles Super Bowl year?

Lol what the fuck?

So much of that stuff is hypothetical as well

You just said the Bills would be a fringe playoff team with Burrow. Uh, the Bills ARE a fringe playoff team with Allen.
The Eagles are well managed, balanced contenders year in and year out. They were that way before Hurts arrived. They've been in the conversation every year since they won the SB.

Ditto for the Chiefs - division titles and playoff runs before Mahomes.

The Niners are the Niners year in year out - they define "system QB"

Burrow isn't making the playoffs with this Bills roster the last few years, and certainly not a difference maker winning titles even though he has elite WRs better than anyone. He'd be average, at best, playing for teams in the league not named the Eagles, Cowboys, Bengals, Niners, Chiefs etc.

JoeyB's secret sauce ("accuracy") are the weapons catching his balls, so he should give some of that 300m to Chase and Higgins. Perhaps then they'd actually stick around come contract time. LOL
 

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The Eagles are well managed, balanced contenders year in and year out. They were that way before Hurts arrived. They've been in the conversation every year since they won the SB.

Ditto for the Chiefs - division titles and playoff runs before Mahomes.

The Niners are the Niners year in year out - they define "system QB"

Burrow isn't making the playoffs with this Bills roster the last few years, and certainly not a difference maker winning titles even though he has elite WRs better than anyone. He'd be average, at best, playing for teams in the league not named the Eagles, Cowboys, Bengals, Niners, Chiefs etc.

JoeyB's secret sauce ("accuracy") are the weapons catching his balls, so he should give some of that 300m to Chase and Higgins. Perhaps then they'd actually stick around come contract time. LOL
You don't think Chase is sticking around?

Lol

Pretty good chance Chase and Higgins are both on the roster next year....

Allen's cap hit is actually a lot worse next year as far as franchise flexbility.....that's a fact
 

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