Anyone happy to see USC beat down another Little 11 team?

[METFAN]

I LIKE KRNBOEY'S ANALYSIS.

Both coaching staff's are excellent. don't really see the Nittany Lions getting blown out in a bowl game unless it's a late defensive score.I"ll take Penn State +10 or more...

I've seen 7 of USC's games and except for the opening day slaughter their offense has basically looked like complete shit..Sanchez is way over hyped.
they scored 17 against Cal and Arizona???? 21 against an Oregon St team that Penn st could have scored 60 against, they got 28 against an absolutely joke of an arizona st team (the books had them winning 8 games????) and 28 against a rancid UCLA team..

as for special teams...Usc kicker missed 3 easy field goals this week...i'm not sure that will cut it in the bowl game

there big wins were what WASH, WASH St, VA,Ohio st, Notre Dame and Stanford. not exactly a WHO'S WHO...

ENJOY THE GAME:toast:

 

[Pick'n-Play]

I have said it many times and will continue to say it. In fact, I am going to give you a little analogy here..

USC situation is kind of like being the fastest kid at the special olympics. They may win all the time but at the end of the day.. they are still retarded.

If you take Alabama, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas, Cincinatti, TCU, Boise State, or even Boston College and you put them in USC's conference guess what? All of those teams would probably have the number one defense in the nation this year.

Remember, I am talking about just this year not the great teams that USC has had over the years. USC's team this year is a joke. I wish they would have played a real team in the Bowls so everyone in the world would know that they are not near as good this year as the media led them to believe.

Also, I wanted to mention this Saturday night after the game but didn't have a chance.. Everyone was chattering about how many Picks Craft was going to throw against an "amazing" USC defense.. Well that number was 1 and that was with under 3 minutes left in the game and they had no chance of a comeback. Now, it is not like they didn't have a chance to pick him because he did throw 33 times. How many did the NFL bound Sanchez throw? the same 1. But it was in the second quarter when it was still a game.

 

[vegashatesme]

USC's team this year is a joke. I wish they would have played a real team in the Bowls so everyone in the world would know that they are not near as good this year as the media led them to believe.

Uh, last time I checked, Penn St. had the #4 total defense in the country, that's pretty good coming out of the big ten.

 

[allaces10]

looks to me like both sides are trying validate the best team based on 1 game

usc/ohio st

the opposing side ; oregon state / penn state

both TERRIBLE ways to cap a game 4 months later IMO. There is so many other real things that factors into a bowl win.

Nah...this dude is quickly showing himself to be borderline retarded though. He didnt grasp that i was responding to the post just above mine. I dont know how many hundreds of times so far i've seen some ignorant one liner from someone that says..."USC crushed tOSU, PSU barely got by them...nuff said!" No mention of Oregon state. Its getting comical at this point.

There are many fans like PaPicker in this area though..fans of Pitt, Rutgers, Maryland and WVU who despise PSU and have a total irrationality regarding them. They have extreme little man syndrome. We laugh at them endlessly because they get more joy out of trying to tear down PSU than they do in their own teams accomplishments.

 

[prodigy]

theres a strong possibility both big ten bcs teams cover. and its likely that ohio state wins outright. that said, betting against usc in a lined game of < 20 is absolute suicide. so its probably a no-play. but both psu and ohio state should play very well. buckeyes every bit as good as texas. and penn state, while they wont win the game, should keep it respectable. and considering how little respect i have for the big 10, thats saying something. but i strongly believe the anti-big10 talk is getting a little out of control and overshadowing two solid teams. osu doesnt even resemble the shitbag team that took the field in LA with boeckman at qb.

 

[BBBILLY]

theres a strong possibility both big ten bcs teams cover. and its likely that ohio state wins outright. that said, betting against usc in a lined game of < 20 is absolute suicide. so its probably a no-play. but both psu and ohio state should play very well. buckeyes every bit as good as texas. and penn state, while they wont win the game, should keep it respectable. and considering how little respect i have for the big 10, thats saying something. but i strongly believe the anti-big10 talk is getting a little out of control and overshadowing two solid teams. osu doesnt even resemble the shitbag team that took the field in LA with boeckman at qb.

I agree completely. It's good to see you posting again. I hope to see you posting in the hoops forum soon. GL BBB

 

[CollegeFan]

theres a strong possibility both big ten bcs teams cover. and its likely that ohio state wins outright. that said, betting against usc in a lined game of < 20 is absolute suicide. so its probably a no-play. but both psu and ohio state should play very well. buckeyes every bit as good as texas. and penn state, while they wont win the game, should keep it respectable. and considering how little respect i have for the big 10, thats saying something. but i strongly believe the anti-big10 talk is getting a little out of control and overshadowing two solid teams. osu doesnt even resemble the shitbag team that took the field in LA with boeckman at qb.

Good analysis, coming from a guy with such disdain for the Big 10.

The only problem with OSU beating TX is that now everyone is going to think Jim Tressel can coach. He will think that everything is "fixed," and he won't make any offseason changes, and he'll get embarassed again at some point next year.

Bottom line -- Tressel is a bum -- the guy couldn't coach himself out of a wet paper bag... Clearly, one of the most overrated coaches in the game.

 

[papicker]

Nah...this dude is quickly showing himself to be borderline retarded though. He didnt grasp that i was responding to the post just above mine. I dont know how many hundreds of times so far i've seen some ignorant one liner from someone that says..."USC crushed tOSU, PSU barely got by them...nuff said!" No mention of Oregon state. Its getting comical at this point.

There are many fans like PaPicker in this area though..fans of Pitt, Rutgers, Maryland and WVU who despise PSU and have a total irrationality regarding them. They have extreme little man syndrome. We laugh at them endlessly because they get more joy out of trying to tear down PSU than they do in their own teams accomplishments.

the big 10s a joke buddy get it through your head, no one thinks penn st usc will even be close except penn st tools and usc haters

 

[Conan]

I have said it many times and will continue to say it. In fact, I am going to give you a little analogy here..

USC situation is kind of like being the fastest kid at the special olympics. They may win all the time but at the end of the day.. they are still retarded.

If you take Alabama, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas, Cincinatti, TCU, Boise State, or even Boston College and you put them in USC's conference guess what? All of those teams would probably have the number one defense in the nation this year.

Remember, I am talking about just this year not the great teams that USC has had over the years. USC's team this year is a joke. I wish they would have played a real team in the Bowls so everyone in the world would know that they are not near as good this year as the media led them to believe.

Also, I wanted to mention this Saturday night after the game but didn't have a chance.. Everyone was chattering about how many Picks Craft was going to throw against an "amazing" USC defense.. Well that number was 1 and that was with under 3 minutes left in the game and they had no chance of a comeback. Now, it is not like they didn't have a chance to pick him because he did throw 33 times. How many did the NFL bound Sanchez throw? the same 1. But it was in the second quarter when it was still a game.

Listen 'tard, who is everyone? You mean the little sharpies with opinions just like you but different? Nobody who really caps the conference predicted anything like that... at most a few said "possibly" Craft would toss some picks." Not me and I represent the WC cappers here as much as anyone. So before you decide to come off sounding like an expert, read the experts. You sound like you don't even bother to read the threads here written by those in the know before you spout off and talk about everyone... 'tard.

What really tipped me off that you are a simple 'tard like all the other "chatterers" here you mentioned was that highly imaginative scenario you described about why everyone else has as good a defense as USC does. Anybody who knows this sport and especially knows the Pac-10 realized that you just lost all credibility with that remark about all those #1 defenses if only...

Face it. USC will pound the crap out of PSU and you will see much more offense from them because they will come out torqued and ready with their "A" game... typically, because that's what they do. If you don't think so, it's a fact that you were either born yesterday, never read the sports pages, followed the Pac-10 in depth, or you have a memory deficiency and you should get yourself checked out. It's clear that you don't know what you are talking about.

"Remember, I am talking about this year," this USC team is just as good as any of them but a little different from the rest, just like the rest. After going undefeated vs OOC opponents for the past 7 years (ex. TX 3 yrs ago), you think this is when they will faulter? Clearly you don't know the first thing about this team but you think you do. You will be proven wrong just like everyone else who has tried to play down what they are and your "new" wrinkles are just the same BS packaged a little differently. Personally I think it was unimaginitive.

First thing you need to learn is that if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's probably a duck. Don't question the obvious and you won't seem so stupid.

For starters, try reading my West Coast/Pac-10 Week 15 thread. You will see what an analysis of a USC game really is. It was spot on. And while you are reading, I promise you I had no crystal ball, only experience and I've studied the conference a lot and I really know the teams. Try it some time before you make a fool out of yourself again.

 

[papicker]

conan ignore these morons let them take this slow big 10 penn st team

 

[TOOTIGHT]

Penn St. will be the best team "this" USC team has faced. They are not battle tested. Home field is the only reason I would even consider playing USC. They have a great defense but their offense is a step down from what we are used to seeing at USC. Penn St. is a much more complete team than any other team in the PAC 10 and 10 times better than the Ohio St. team that played there earlier in the season.

I respect USC's track record but go back and try to figure out the last complete legit top ten football team USC has faced. I'm not knocking their scheduling either because they have tried to get the best match-ups but it just hasn't happened.

I may be alone but I think this has the makings of a very good football game.

 

[Conan]

Penn St. will be the best team "this" USC team has faced. They are not battle tested. Home field is the only reason I would even consider playing USC. They have a great defense but their offense is a step down from what we are used to seeing at USC. Penn St. is a much more complete team than any other team in the PAC 10 and 10 times better than the Ohio St. team that played there earlier in the season.

I respect USC's track record but go back and try to figure out the last complete legit top ten football team USC has faced. I'm not knocking their scheduling either because they have tried to get the best match-ups but it just hasn't happened.

I may be alone but I think this has the makings of a very good football game.

Just for shits and giggles Tootight, compare the scores USC put up vs non-conf opponents vs league games. (Then tell me that they can't put PSU away.) Then tell me they haven't been battle tested this season. Not as often as in more normal years because the conference was down, but not down everywhere. The conf. teams with winning records put USC to task... almost all of them. That's how intraconference games go just about everywhere.

It would be wrong to throw a blanket over their entire season saying that they were untested because the (whole) conference was down. It wasn't ALL down, just more teams were down than in normal years. Shortcut assumptions and thinking like that could get you into a lot of trouble. At least you're not thinking that way out of habit or out of preference because you are some kind of typical 1/2-wit SEC homey who's never composed a cogent rational train of thought in his entire life.

 

[ToothedTeddy]

a proposition to all of the Big10 haters:

give me 10.5 pts with both Ohio St and Penn St and I'll give you 5 to 1 odds on a two-teamer. please send me a private msg so that we can discuss details - payment arrangements, etc.

prob not a bad idea to set a max bet limit so that this doesn't get out of hand. thanks and i look fwd to hearing from you.

 

[allaces10]

Lmao..i knew Conan wouldnt let me down...like watching a midget try to dunk a basketball...hahhahahahhah...have you ever seen someone type so many words and say almost nothing? Dont worry folks..he's just getting started.......

 

[krnboey]

That whole post is bullshit.



That didn't seem to matter last year when Illinois went to Pasadena and crawled home with their tails between their legs. The only thing that will get into USC's heads will be the opportunity to knock off another big name team. Can you list the reasons why this would be their first loss after winning the last 11 big non-conf games in a row...big? Or is that just a coincidence and stats like that need to be ignored?


Consider yourself lucky if PSU even scores 10 points.


We'll see about that. Sanchez's stats will get him drafted. The only thing about thier offense that bothers me is their play calling (Sarkisian) and their lack of a dominant rusher instead of RB by committee (Sarkisian again.) They've come from behind more than once this season. How's your memory? Did you already forget about last week?


5-10 yards is not a huge difference when your offense can't move the ball from anywhere. They will have to fight for every yard to manage over 250 yards total offense in this game.


If you can't manage a trip to the biggest bowl game PSU has had the opportunity to play in for years, then can I buy your ticket?

LoL. I'm just here to give my thoughts. I guess all people who don't agree with you are just bullshiting? Open your mind and I'm sure you can be even a better capper. I read your thread every week and a lot of people's thread here at the RX. All info and insights have made me a better capper and enlighted me on some things I just didn't think of.

1. Please don't compare Zook to Joe-Pa. Zook is a not a good game planner or an in-game adjustment coach. Joe-Pa is one of the best ever. This USC isn't the same team that has produced great results and history doesn't always repeat itself or if it did, making money in this business would be too easy. I'm not looking for Penn St. to win the game outright, if this was at -3 or -4 USC, it would be a no play for me.

2. This USC defense IMO is overrated. Best this year, sure, but Alabama and Florida not far behind. Best ever? No. ESPN keeps saying best ever and that belief has inflated this line. I'm not saying Penn St. will score a ton or even 10 points, but USC might only score 10 as well and that means I just need a field goal to cash the ticket.

3. Sanchez's stats won't get him drafted. It's his size and arm strength that will get him drafted. I agree with the play calling. I live here in LA, so all I here is about that, but I don't think they are taking advantage of their talent by using that system. IMO, going to a hybrid speard/pro style would be better since they got so many good position players and putting some spread in might get them more in open space but that's for another thread.
When I talk about comebacks, I don't mean losing 0 - 7 in the 1st quarter with 9 minutes left and coming back to win against one of the worst teams in college football, a comeback. I mean losing, AT LEAST, in the 2nd half and coming back to win. Only time he was asked to do that this year was at Ore. St. and he couldn't do it. Since USC is a DD fav., I think it's more important to note that he can't put teams away in the 2nd half if it's on his shoulders. Teams like Ariz. St., Cal, Ore. St., UCLA, and Ariz have been able to stay close until the 4th quarter (or win outright) by stopping the run and forcing Sanchez to beat them (they all covered as well). Again, I'm not asking Penn St. win the game, but I believe they will stop the run and will keep this game close and fight till the end.

4. 5 to 10 yards EVERY punt will make a huge difference in this game of field position. I don't see turnovers by either team as both are so well coached so special teams will be a big factor in this game. 5 to 10 yards could mean 50 to 70 yards of field position the entire game and with both teams having to earn for every yard they get, that could mean the difference of a couple drives ending in a field goal, when without the 10 yards, it could of ended in a punt.

5. I'm not a fan of Penn St. nor USC. I'm a fan of the team that cashes my next ticket. But I also know that times are tough. It is hard for any fan to go to any bowl game no matter how close it is, let alone a cross-country trip to one of the most expensive cities in America. Penn St. fans are great fans, but when it comes to going to the Rose Bowl or paying bills and putting food on the table, it's not a hard choice. I'm not saying people in LA are going through good times, but it's easier and cheaper for people in LA.

Well, you might think this post is bullshit as well, but GL to you all. I'm here to beat the bookie and help other as well do the same. Hope everybody has a great bowl season.

 

[3peet]

USC destroying a Big 10 team in the Rosebowl is as close to the surest thing as fading Notre Lame the passed 10 bowl seasons.


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[allen0315]

tell me where they get usc has a great D :nohead:

 

[TheNoob]

This thread cracks me up. The PAC 1 is nothing more than the WAC with 1 good team. PSU will easily cover in this game and will most likely win SU. USC has not played a defense that is even close to PSU's and USC's D is OVERRATED due to its schedule. Who can't stop Washington, Washington ST, Arizona ST....Blah Blah Blah.

PSU covers and if this game were on a neutral field easily wins. Talk all you want...but that's all it is...Talk.

 

[mws]

no one thinks penn st usc will even be close except penn st tools and usc haters

You're in fantasy land. Lots of handicappers think this line is too high without any kind of bias for or against either school.

 

[Conan]

This thread cracks me up. The PAC 1 is nothing more than the WAC with 1 good team. PSU will easily cover in this game and will most likely win SU. USC has not played a defense that is even close to PSU's and USC's D is OVERRATED due to its schedule. Who can't stop Washington, Washington ST, Arizona ST....Blah Blah Blah.

PSU covers and if this game were on a neutral field easily wins. Talk all you want...but that's all it is...Talk.

I've heard this same shit for 7 years. Assuming that you have been putting your money where your mouth is, I'm surprised you can afford a computer.