Ann Coulter: "High gas prices part of Democratic agenda"

[Jointpleasure]

Let's also not forget it was Clinton DOJ who OK'de the merger of Exxon and Mobil. So you capitalist hating libs can blame the grease monkey for this one. It was the demi's who shot down ANWAR in 95 ( led by Newt and the contract with America). It was Gore who wrote in his book he wishes for 5 buck a gallon gas.

All libs are clowns ( all libs, no exceptions to this rule ) who need issue's like this to lie to the American public to get re-elected. Libs don't look to solve anything unless it will lead to them having more power down the road. The issue is more important to them than the solution. We're dealing with fascist bastards here, and Coulter and Rush are numero uno's in my book in getting the truth about these deranged libs out.

JD Hayworth in '08

 

[studmuffin]

Awesome post, Joe

 

[docmercer--banned]

J D Hayworth's Role in the Abramoff Scandal

For what it's worth, here's Think Progress's scoop on J D Hayworth's role in the Abramoff Scandal:
Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ)
CONTRIBUTIONS — HAYWORTH ACCEPTED $64,520 FROM ABRAMOFF AND HIS CLIENTS: “Hayworth got about $64,520…in Abramoff-related donations between 2001 and 2004.” [AP, 11/24/05]
GIFTS — HAYWORTH FAILED TO REPORT USE OF ABRAMOFF SKYBOXES: Hayworth, Doolittle, and Ney “were allowed free use of Abramoff’s sports skyboxes for fund-raisers held as long ago as 1999. They didn’t declare the value of the accommodations until records surfaced in ongoing U.S. Senate and criminal investigations of suspected exploitation by the lobbyist in charging six Indian tribes $82 million for representation.” Hayworth did not include Abramoff’s name on his updated financial disclosures, but now “has reported repayments totaling $12,880 to the Chitimacha and Choctaw tribes for in-kind contributions at 10 fundraising events.” [Arizona Republic, 5/10/05; Washington Post, 12/14/05]
SAGINAW FUNDING — HAYWORTH LOBBIED ON BEHALF OF SAGINAWS: “Senator Conrad Burns, a Montana Republican [who oversees the budget of the Bureau of Indian Affairs], helped win a $3 million government award for the Saginaw Chippewa Tribe of Michigan to build a school.” The federal funds were intended for “impoverished Indian tribal schools” and in 2003, the Interior Department ruled the Saginaw tribe, an Abramoff client, too rich to participate. Hayworth, along with several other lawmakers, wrote to the Interior Department on the Saginaws’ behalf. [Bloomberg, 11/21/05; Washington Post, 3/1/05; AP, 11/24/05]

 

[docmercer--banned]

In 1995 when the Repugs got contorl Gingrich and DeLays "leadership" to deregulate Corporate America was the springboard for the Enrons in this country

 

[JudgeWapner]

Gopher said:
"ann coulter, michele malkin, rush, michael moore, bill maher are all cartoon characters. they say the most outragious things and it sells books, movies, 50k speaking engagements, etc.
by feeding us this bs, they keep validating extreme political views, thereby keeping us politically polarized, thereby maintaining a steady income."

Couldn't agree more. These people are in the entertainment business, not the news business.

 

[Phaedrus]

I'm on the same page as Christian here. I guess I shouldn't be suprised that someone who mouths off as tirelessly as Coulter would, statistically speaking, eventually mutter something with which I agree, but still -- I feel like I need a bath and an eyeball bleaching nonetheless.


Phaedrus

 

[xpanda]

Interesting, non-shrill article on how the ethanol lobbies and political favouratism are a big part of the gas price issue:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/gop-economic-crimes.html

 

[JudgeWapner]

I'm a little slow. Someone please explain the theory behind the tax breaks given to the oil companies by the current administration.

 

[JoeContrarian]

Interesting, non-shrill article on how the ethanol lobbies and political favouratism are a big part of the gas price issue:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/gop-economic-crimes.html

Pure politics and speculation. Like the steroid hearings with MLB.

 

[xpanda]

Pure politics and speculation.

What part? The author is hardly a Democrat apologist.

Like the steroid hearings with MLB.

You mean the investigation into oil companies is like the steroid hearings? In other words, political grandstanding and unnecessary meddling by the feds? Or do you mean something else?

 

[JoeContrarian]

What part? The author is hardly a Democrat apologist.

No, but he did offer this insightful gem: "then we know that Congress as a whole is a body of liars and maybe even criminals (with a few exceptions, like Rep. Ron Paul of Texas)..."

Emmm, okay...

You mean the investigation into oil companies is like the steroid hearings? In other words, political grandstanding and unnecessary meddling by the feds? Or do you mean something else?

Political grandstanding. The author doesn't mention the previous 32 'investigations' -- which found no wrongdoing. It's all for show. It's the nature of democracy, when the opposition senses an opening demanding action while the public grows more nervous. They (the GOP) can't just mumble the realities of supply and demand, then fade into the sunset. You know and I know, democracy doesn't work that way.

Besides, the author failed to mention the root causes behind the systemic dependence of foreign energy, which can be largely attributed to the environmental lobby (Democrats) blocking everything from nuclear power, to new refineries, and unnecessary regulation. Like social security, this isn't a problem which was created overnight, nor since "the Iraq war" (I wonder how the author feels about the war? lol ) and isn't going to be rectified with a magic quick-fix, anytime soon.

Personally, I'm cheering for gas prices to blast into orbit, because I'm tired of navigating through all this traffic congestion. Too many damn cars out there!

 

[xpanda]

No, but he did offer this insightful gem: "then we know that Congress as a whole is a body of liars and maybe even criminals (with a few exceptions, like Rep. Ron Paul of Texas)..."

Emmm, okay...

I don't understand your point. Ron Paul is a Republican, hailed by Libertarians.

Political grandstanding. The author doesn't mention the previous 32 'investigations' -- which found no wrongdoing. It's all for show. It's the nature of democracy, when the opposition senses an opening demanding action while the public grows more nervous. They (the GOP) can't just mumble the realities of supply and demand, then fade into the sunset. You know and I know, democracy doesn't work that way.

So you are acknowledging that the 'investigation' into 'price gouging' by oil companies is political grandstanding?

Besides, the author failed to mention the root causes behind the systemic dependence of foreign energy, which can be largely attributed to the environmental lobby (Democrats) blocking everything from nuclear power, to new refineries, and unnecessary regulation. Like social security, this isn't a problem which was created overnight, nor since "the Iraq war" (I wonder how the author feels about the war? lol ) and isn't going to be rectified with a magic quick-fix, anytime soon.

All of that might be true, but it's also true that gas prices spike whenever Iran has something to say, and also true that gas prices have been rocked by events in Iraq. It also seems plausible that the ethanol issue he writes about could be a contributing factor.

Is it possible that you could concede that meddling in the oil industry (from regulation to war in high supply zones to failure to drill in domestic territories) by BOTH parties are affecting world gas prices, in addition to natural supply and demand issues?

 

[SmallDaddy]

The Republicans have been in complete power for the last 5.5 years and this high gasoline price is a recent development yet it is solely the Dem's fault????
I am not connecting the dots here:smoking:

 

[gopherbob]

The Republicans have been in complete power for the last 5.5 years and this high gasoline price is a recent development yet it is solely the Dem's fault????
I am not connecting the dots here:smoking:

thats because you don't understand simple republican politics, blame the democrats (especially the clintons) for everything.

 

[JoeContrarian]

So you are acknowledgingI offer that the 'investigation' into 'price gouging' by oil companies is political grandstanding?

Acknowledging? I'm not a member of Congress. I simply offered up my observation. No, nothing substantive will come of it.

All of that might be true, but it's also true that gas prices spike whenever Iran has something to say, and also true that gas prices have been rocked by events in Iraq. It also seems plausible that the ethanol issue he writes about could be a contributing factor.

Is it possible that you could concede that meddling in the oil industry (from regulation to war in high supply zones to failure to drill in domestic territories) by BOTH parties are affecting world gas prices, in addition to natural supply and demand issues?

Natural supply and demand are a given. Panda, in case you missed it, the author lays the majority of blame (ncrease in gas prices) on the war in the ME. He misses the point. If America were more energy independent, military excursions into the ME wouldn’t have as great an impact on the US energy market. So my earlier point -- lack of nuclear plants, refineries, etc. -- rests entirely at the feet of environmental lobbyists and Democrat obstructionists. It’s more than just “drilling the way out” as Democrats are now implying. This problem is decades in the making. And American policy makers shouldn’t be hesitating acting on any threats, because oil prices will spike. Such dependence is dangerous. So this must change.

Didn’t the GOP finally pass an energy bill? Unfortunately, it’ll take many years before we see any effect.

Twenty years from now, when Social Security implodes, revisionists will be playing the bi-partisan blame game. You and I know better. We were there.

 

[xpanda]

Natural supply and demand are a given. Panda, in case you missed it, the author lays the majority of blame (ncrease in gas prices) on the war in the ME. He misses the point.

No, he doesn't.

He blames the high prices in large part on regulations requiring ethanol in gas mixtures. He blames the havoc in the ME in part - which is a truism to some degree, simply watch the market react to events in Iraq and Iran for confirmation - but this is not his core thesis.