<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IDENTITY:
you guys are crazy....
fantasia is a megastar, and latoya will be big also. both are better than ruben and clay.
jasmine stinks.
george will do okay.
diana needs some time and will blow up in a year or so when she loses some weight.
as for john stevens, seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ya!
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BAHAHAHA
Fantasia is a 1 record wonder
Latoya had 26% of the AOL vote last Tuesday while Fantasia had 19%. The next day Latoya had 25% Fantasia 20%
And I know AOL is not the only place to vote, but it has highly been accurate throughout the years of American Idol. I believe randy is poking fantasia therefore she wins even though she sounds like she sings from her nose.
you guys are crazy....
fantasia is a megastar, and latoya will be big also. both are better than ruben and clay.
jasmine stinks.
george will do okay.
diana needs some time and will blow up in a year or so when she loses some weight.
as for john stevens, seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ya!
BAHAHAHA
Fantasia is a 1 record wonder
Latoya had 26% of the AOL vote last Tuesday while Fantasia had 19%. The next day Latoya had 25% Fantasia 20%
And I know AOL is not the only place to vote, but it has highly been accurate throughout the years of American Idol. I believe randy is poking fantasia therefore she wins even though she sounds like she sings from her nose.
NO OFFENSE GUYS, BUT YOU HAVE NO TASTE...OOPS...UNLESS YOU KNOW BETTER THAN RANDY JACKSON AND CLIVE DAVIS!!!
FANTASIA IS GOING TO BE BIGGER THAN MACY GRAY AND ALICIA KEYES COMBINED...YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST...
JASMINE - PLEASE RESIGN FROM THE COMPETITION...YOU STINK GIRLFRIEND!!!
FANTASIA IS GOING TO BE BIGGER THAN MACY GRAY AND ALICIA KEYES COMBINED...YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST...
JASMINE - PLEASE RESIGN FROM THE COMPETITION...YOU STINK GIRLFRIEND!!!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by themanowesme:
Fantasia looks like Kordell Stewart. Randy cant say 2 words back to back without saying some stupid ghetto talk. Hopefully this is it for this show!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think Randy is racist. Maybe it's just a big coincidence, but he RARELY has negative comments for 'certain' performers.
Fantasia looks like Kordell Stewart. Randy cant say 2 words back to back without saying some stupid ghetto talk. Hopefully this is it for this show!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think Randy is racist. Maybe it's just a big coincidence, but he RARELY has negative comments for 'certain' performers.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lander:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by themanowesme:
Fantasia looks like Kordell Stewart. Randy cant say 2 words back to back without saying some stupid ghetto talk. Hopefully this is it for this show!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think Randy is racist. Maybe it's just a big coincidence, but he RARELY has negative comments for 'certain' performers.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Amen bro, Amen!!!!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by themanowesme:
Fantasia looks like Kordell Stewart. Randy cant say 2 words back to back without saying some stupid ghetto talk. Hopefully this is it for this show!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think Randy is racist. Maybe it's just a big coincidence, but he RARELY has negative comments for 'certain' performers.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Amen bro, Amen!!!!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IDENTITY:
NO OFFENSE GUYS, BUT YOU HAVE NO TASTE...OOPS...UNLESS YOU KNOW BETTER THAN RANDY JACKSON AND CLIVE DAVIS!!!
FANTASIA IS GOING TO BE BIGGER THAN MACY GRAY AND ALICIA KEYES COMBINED...YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST...
JASMINE - PLEASE RESIGN FROM THE COMPETITION...YOU STINK GIRLFRIEND!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You have to be joking that girl sings out of her nose and sounds like she should be on a damn cartoon.
NO OFFENSE GUYS, BUT YOU HAVE NO TASTE...OOPS...UNLESS YOU KNOW BETTER THAN RANDY JACKSON AND CLIVE DAVIS!!!
FANTASIA IS GOING TO BE BIGGER THAN MACY GRAY AND ALICIA KEYES COMBINED...YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST...
JASMINE - PLEASE RESIGN FROM THE COMPETITION...YOU STINK GIRLFRIEND!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You have to be joking that girl sings out of her nose and sounds like she should be on a damn cartoon.
Don't want to start a contoversy, but....
The lines were open early. I plug the number into my cell before the last commercial then call once so I can hit redial (for my Jasmine). Anyway, votes were beig accepted for Jasmine (don;t know if other lines were open as well) and I got at least 40 votes in before the lines officially openned.
I admit Jasmine SHOULD go, but I believe Fantasia will be voted out.
The lines were open early. I plug the number into my cell before the last commercial then call once so I can hit redial (for my Jasmine). Anyway, votes were beig accepted for Jasmine (don;t know if other lines were open as well) and I got at least 40 votes in before the lines officially openned.
I admit Jasmine SHOULD go, but I believe Fantasia will be voted out.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IDENTITY:
assassin - please explain why you vote for jasmine? don't you think she is hard to listen to?
also, fyi, her line was open because no one was voting for her.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I have a bet on heer at Trade bet.
I also bet AGAINST Fantasia
(won my against bet on Latoya already)
Its all about money.
Plus, she is filipino and so is my wife. We talkd about it last night, she could make some serious duckets over there right after the competition.
assassin - please explain why you vote for jasmine? don't you think she is hard to listen to?
also, fyi, her line was open because no one was voting for her.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I have a bet on heer at Trade bet.
I also bet AGAINST Fantasia
(won my against bet on Latoya already)
Its all about money.
Plus, she is filipino and so is my wife. We talkd about it last night, she could make some serious duckets over there right after the competition.
After watching the last two shows and the background on them, here is my commentary.
Yes, the right person was cut if you consider musical talent.
A big BUT, however, as a person who prides himself on accepting people of all backgrounds, I could not help but cringe when watching the pieces on Fantasia and seeing her perpetuate EVERY stereotype.
Here we have the unwed Southern black girl who had a child at a young age, who goes back to her town and has a pot-luck dinner at the church complete with all the Southern dinner staples. Here she is talking about getting chitlins in Hollywood and we see the marching band high-stepping. Here she is with her "bobo" dancing and mom is in the audience "raising the roof".
This girl is a DAMN fine singer and in a league of her own as a performer, but as someone who has taught inner-city minority kids in the past, I can tell you that if I was teaching them in class tomorrow, the last thing on their minds would be becoming an honor roll student like Jasmine or a girl with strong family values like Diana. All they would be saying is how she "brung it" and how they want to be like her and have a kid and be a star.
It make ZERO difference what ethnic or financial background any of the contestants come from, but I must be getting old when I recognize that there are certain people children should be looking up to as "Idols", and I certainly will not be one to promote Fantasia no matter how talented she is (and the sad part is she truly is).
Yes, the right person was cut if you consider musical talent.
A big BUT, however, as a person who prides himself on accepting people of all backgrounds, I could not help but cringe when watching the pieces on Fantasia and seeing her perpetuate EVERY stereotype.
Here we have the unwed Southern black girl who had a child at a young age, who goes back to her town and has a pot-luck dinner at the church complete with all the Southern dinner staples. Here she is talking about getting chitlins in Hollywood and we see the marching band high-stepping. Here she is with her "bobo" dancing and mom is in the audience "raising the roof".
This girl is a DAMN fine singer and in a league of her own as a performer, but as someone who has taught inner-city minority kids in the past, I can tell you that if I was teaching them in class tomorrow, the last thing on their minds would be becoming an honor roll student like Jasmine or a girl with strong family values like Diana. All they would be saying is how she "brung it" and how they want to be like her and have a kid and be a star.
It make ZERO difference what ethnic or financial background any of the contestants come from, but I must be getting old when I recognize that there are certain people children should be looking up to as "Idols", and I certainly will not be one to promote Fantasia no matter how talented she is (and the sad part is she truly is).
green doberman - i really think your comments are racist. the american idol is not for the best person who kids should live up to, although that is the normal definition of the term. rather, the american idol is merely the best singer/performer. whether they are unwed mothers, former gang members, etc. is irrelevant. how do you know fantasia's ex did not say he wanted fantasia to have a baby, and then take off when he realized the obligations he was to face? just because in the ghetto people say "brung" instead of "brought" does not make fantasia any less of an american idol. half of the posters on this site say "could have WENT" instead of "could have GONE." FANTASIA presents herself with grace, dignity, and her talent is unmatched.
if pink, alanis morissette, or tupac were in this competition, would they also not be right simply because of their difficult childhoods? Your comments are discriminatory and i am sorry to hear them from a guy who seems very bright and open-minded. i guess there is still lots of racism out there...not everyone lives in a place where they can get a good education and excel academically. it is HARD to come out of many of these black communities, and who knows whether fantasia even had her own father to help her get this far???
in closing, fantasia is the best, and for the record, i called it at the beginning...
if pink, alanis morissette, or tupac were in this competition, would they also not be right simply because of their difficult childhoods? Your comments are discriminatory and i am sorry to hear them from a guy who seems very bright and open-minded. i guess there is still lots of racism out there...not everyone lives in a place where they can get a good education and excel academically. it is HARD to come out of many of these black communities, and who knows whether fantasia even had her own father to help her get this far???
in closing, fantasia is the best, and for the record, i called it at the beginning...
Identity,
When I wrote it I could see that it would be perceived as racist, however, that was not my intention. The perspective I was thinking of was of those kids that I had taught. I agree that on the one hand it is a singing/talent competition. However, on the other hand it represents more to those children that watch the show. I did see on the program that Fantasia went back to her old school and urged the kids to "stay in school". For me, this rings rather hollow and is rather reminiscent of those NBA "read to achieve" programs featuring kids that either didn't finish school or who barely made it through high school. I am not begrudging their talents one bit, but if you have spent time in the inner city you would know that children's perspective is sometimes warped. They see their options out as athletes or entertainers and don't feel the need to emphasize academics. I remember one young child telling me she didn't need school (she was in 7th grade at the time) because she was gonna be a hairdresser.
As for her "bringing it" or "brung", that was a direct quote from one of the children I talked to and was not related to Fantasia one bit. I really do think she is talented, but like I said the way she is presented casts a negative light on her community- Be it Southern, North Carolinian, poor, single mother, African-American or whatever.
So if you still think I am racist, that is your prerogative. However, if you saw the same things I saw and did not think "doesn't this make people perceive her in a negative light?", then you yourself are in denial and need to take a look in the mirror. Good discussion is an important and enlightening thing and that was my point.
When I wrote it I could see that it would be perceived as racist, however, that was not my intention. The perspective I was thinking of was of those kids that I had taught. I agree that on the one hand it is a singing/talent competition. However, on the other hand it represents more to those children that watch the show. I did see on the program that Fantasia went back to her old school and urged the kids to "stay in school". For me, this rings rather hollow and is rather reminiscent of those NBA "read to achieve" programs featuring kids that either didn't finish school or who barely made it through high school. I am not begrudging their talents one bit, but if you have spent time in the inner city you would know that children's perspective is sometimes warped. They see their options out as athletes or entertainers and don't feel the need to emphasize academics. I remember one young child telling me she didn't need school (she was in 7th grade at the time) because she was gonna be a hairdresser.
As for her "bringing it" or "brung", that was a direct quote from one of the children I talked to and was not related to Fantasia one bit. I really do think she is talented, but like I said the way she is presented casts a negative light on her community- Be it Southern, North Carolinian, poor, single mother, African-American or whatever.
So if you still think I am racist, that is your prerogative. However, if you saw the same things I saw and did not think "doesn't this make people perceive her in a negative light?", then you yourself are in denial and need to take a look in the mirror. Good discussion is an important and enlightening thing and that was my point.
Identity,
I do not make judgements on people's personal choices and do not find anything wrong with her having a child as well. I do think it sends the wrong message to kids watching having a kid at an early age. I would be VERY surprised if Fantasia had planned having a kid. Likely it was an accident, but she deserves props for growing up and taking care of her child. I also see her boyfriend in the audience and without knowing the facts, it at least looks like he has stuck around. This is also commendable, and whether you like it or not tends to be the exception, not the rule.
I am sure socio-economic factors come into play, but comparing Jasmine and Fantasia's values and "role-modelness" is as big a mismatch as the disparity in the vocal talent, inversely.
I do not make judgements on people's personal choices and do not find anything wrong with her having a child as well. I do think it sends the wrong message to kids watching having a kid at an early age. I would be VERY surprised if Fantasia had planned having a kid. Likely it was an accident, but she deserves props for growing up and taking care of her child. I also see her boyfriend in the audience and without knowing the facts, it at least looks like he has stuck around. This is also commendable, and whether you like it or not tends to be the exception, not the rule.
I am sure socio-economic factors come into play, but comparing Jasmine and Fantasia's values and "role-modelness" is as big a mismatch as the disparity in the vocal talent, inversely.
cmon gd - you cannot compare fantasia with jasmine. hasmine is 17 and in high school. fantasia is 19 with a kid. you know as well as i do that there is a BIG difference between 17 and 19. also, there's a BIG difference between growing up in n.c. and in hawaii. whatever, when it comes down to it, fantasia will have a lucrative career, and jasmine won't. that's all i care about
