You may be right
Still no way to tell unless Fields gets even an average Oline and WR's
Still no way to tell unless Fields gets even an average Oline and WR's
If I'm the Bears I try to trade Fields and draft a new QB. Fields looked good this year so value is highest it's been so far. Good QB's to draft. End up with maybe a better QB , more years of control at lower salary, it's not like the Bears are ready to "go for it" this year. Like the Eagles were this year. Got to admit I'm not an expert on the Bears so I could be wrong, but they seem young and a ways away from having superbowl talent. Same with Fields, haven't seen a ton of him, but seems to be missing something to me., don't ask me what. Both at Ohio State and Chicago. Very impressed sometimes, other times not too impressed. Can't put me finger on it, I'm just not convinced personally.
Back to Hurts and these QB's getting paid a ton and killing cap space for other players... use Hurts and Eagles as example. So are you guys not going to pay Hurts? Try to trade him? Let him go as a free agent after next year? What if he sits out via advice from his agent if there is no new deal? Team is in win now mode, can't have him sit out and waste a year. Obviously don't think Hurts would want to sit out either.
Just curious what you guys would do, or at least you guys who say can't pay these QB's $50 without being sure they are elite.
Sure 4 years seem like it would be enough time to know. but look at Hurts, sits most of first year, decent second season, not enough to be sure, then seems to improve again in 3rd year. Then wants a new deal.... will he keep getting better?...has he hit his potential?....Is he jus a system guy and will regress with lesser team around him?
Look at Eagles with Wentz, Prescott in Dallas, Murray in Arizona.....Goff with Rams, hard to be convinced in 3 or 4 years, seems like damned if you do/don't type thing a lot of times, just a lot of guess work for so much money and your teams future on the line.
Jax was smart in getting Peterson, a great QB friendly coach. Almost like a fairly cheap way to try to be certain on Lawrence,. What if they had gotten a crappy defensive coach and Lawrence looked terrible again... then what do you do with him in 2 years? Break the bank or give up on him, Jax was smart and got him a proven coach and some weapons, if Lawrence couldn't make it then , you gave him everything to succeed then you can give up on him.
Drafting QB's is tough too, maybe 25% of top 10 pick QB's pan out. Could always draft later and hope to catch lightning in bottle, but then it's what maybe 10% chance mid rounds maybe 5 % late rounds?
Look at the Mayfield draft, with J Allen, Rosen, and Darnold. It was a crapshoot. They were the top 4 , mock drafts kept switching them all over, there was no consensus among experts and scouts even with all the film in the world available.
Turns out there was superstar (allen) , probably borderline starter/backup (mayfield) , a probably bust (darnold) and mega bust (rosen) and bit of a sleeper in L Jackson taken later in round he is 2nd best of the bunch.
For every Bree's and Brady picked mid and later rounds, there are 10 comparable less talented QB's drafted every year who become backups, mediocre starters, nothing at all.
Back to Hurts and these QB's getting paid a ton and killing cap space for other players... use Hurts and Eagles as example. So are you guys not going to pay Hurts? Try to trade him? Let him go as a free agent after next year? What if he sits out via advice from his agent if there is no new deal? Team is in win now mode, can't have him sit out and waste a year. Obviously don't think Hurts would want to sit out either.
Just curious what you guys would do, or at least you guys who say can't pay these QB's $50 without being sure they are elite.
Sure 4 years seem like it would be enough time to know. but look at Hurts, sits most of first year, decent second season, not enough to be sure, then seems to improve again in 3rd year. Then wants a new deal.... will he keep getting better?...has he hit his potential?....Is he jus a system guy and will regress with lesser team around him?
Look at Eagles with Wentz, Prescott in Dallas, Murray in Arizona.....Goff with Rams, hard to be convinced in 3 or 4 years, seems like damned if you do/don't type thing a lot of times, just a lot of guess work for so much money and your teams future on the line.
Jax was smart in getting Peterson, a great QB friendly coach. Almost like a fairly cheap way to try to be certain on Lawrence,. What if they had gotten a crappy defensive coach and Lawrence looked terrible again... then what do you do with him in 2 years? Break the bank or give up on him, Jax was smart and got him a proven coach and some weapons, if Lawrence couldn't make it then , you gave him everything to succeed then you can give up on him.
Drafting QB's is tough too, maybe 25% of top 10 pick QB's pan out. Could always draft later and hope to catch lightning in bottle, but then it's what maybe 10% chance mid rounds maybe 5 % late rounds?
Look at the Mayfield draft, with J Allen, Rosen, and Darnold. It was a crapshoot. They were the top 4 , mock drafts kept switching them all over, there was no consensus among experts and scouts even with all the film in the world available.
Turns out there was superstar (allen) , probably borderline starter/backup (mayfield) , a probably bust (darnold) and mega bust (rosen) and bit of a sleeper in L Jackson taken later in round he is 2nd best of the bunch.
For every Bree's and Brady picked mid and later rounds, there are 10 comparable less talented QB's drafted every year who become backups, mediocre starters, nothing at all.
They would probably take any 1st round pick
Scared to death the saints will try to get him at 29
Dennis Allen is in love with mobile QBs
Tried to sell the house last year to get Watson .
Luckily the Browns out idioted the saints and gave him the worst contract in NFL history .
A few weeks later they trade the best hybrid corner/safety in the NFL on a rookie deal for a 6th round pick .
Yea the saints are fucked .
I miss Sean Payton .
Was so jealous watching Denver’s press conference the other day
Tried to sell the house last year to get Watson .
Luckily the Browns out idioted the saints and gave him the worst contract in NFL history .
A few weeks later they trade the best hybrid corner/safety in the NFL on a rookie deal for a 6th round pick .
Yea the saints are fucked .
I miss Sean Payton .
Was so jealous watching Denver’s press conference the other day
Andrew Luck ran for his life every game and went 11-5 and got to the AFC Champ game.... because he was an actual qb. Not a running back pretending to be a qb... Fields is a 1 read qb; then runs. The fil m makes the case.... Also, why Ohio St qb's suck in the league... It is usually a 1 read, run deal. Doesn't work in the NFL.
Right.. now many think Carr will/can win? Look at his career record?? Money is everything win or lose???
